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SpiritLed

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FreeNChrist said:
Again. Why would he be teaching Christians a way to avoid fulfilling the desires of the flesh if the flesh is dead??
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Because the Galatians had some believing in vain who hadn't crucified their flesh yet.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
I do believe in that scripture. I do believe in laying hands of the sick. I don't believe that mis-applying it will bring the results you think.

Go drink some poison and grab a snake on purpose and let's test your theory out.
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How in the world have I mis-applied it? These signs SHALL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE. Tell me how I have mis-applied it please.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Never once said nor indicated I was your superior....so the stab was uncalled for as well as the sarcasm....this thread has been started three times now...and will go bye bye once it comes to the attention of the MOD....You guys have been pushing your sinless perfectionism for weeks and weeks and refuse to acknowledge the truth that a blind man who is deaf could understand....the numerous verses in context that prove your error.....and instead of humbling yourself and accepting the truth you set your face like flint and refuse to acknowledge error........so....Peter, what you say.....the ones who know better will not stand idly by and let you lead people astray.....the losers in this whole deal are the weak and immature that you lead astray......no worries mate...you may appear biblical and every now and then say something worthy.....in the end....you will answer and it will not be to me pal........!
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and therein is the real damage done via this doctrine - the newbies and the weak......they go along thinking they are sinless and will never sin again, then they do.....and what are they left with? the teaching that they are not saved.
 
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SpiritLed said:
How in the world have I mis-applied it? These signs SHALL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE. Tell me how I have mis-applied it please.
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Does it say it will follow all those who believe??
 
Grace777x70

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SpiritLed said:
How in the world have I mis-applied it? These signs SHALL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE. Tell me how I have mis-applied it please.
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Go read post #170.

Anyway...send us the video of you drinking poison and letting cobra's bite you and this will come to an end. Other than that - it's a complete waste of time going back and forth.
 
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SpiritLed said:
Look at what you said, this was DIRECTED AT ME BY YOU out of wrath of your own and you very well know it. Don't you dare lie and say you were quoting scripture.

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YOU continue to slander the brethren. YOU continue to sin. YOU continue to say we say it is ok to sin.

PAUL says in Romans 3:8
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[FONT=&quot]And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported,and as some affirm that we say) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

That's what you have been doing for 5 days and 3 threads now. If you don't like what Paul is saying about YOU, then I'd recommend you repent of YOUR slanderous sin![/FONT]
 
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zone said:
and therein is the real damage done via this doctrine - the newbies and the weak......they go along thinking they are sinless and will never sin again, then they do.....and what are they left with? the teaching that they are not saved.
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Amen..it is a deceptive doctrine that can ship-wrecked believers. The thing is - there is an element of truth in it but it is being "mis-applied" and thus they believe they can never sin in the flesh again.

In reality as we have seen - they do the works of the flesh quite a bit. In their minds they don't do any sinning anymore because they don't smoke, drink, swear, commit adultery but they don't mention all the other works of the flesh. Like "hypocrisy, slander, malice, strife causing..etc"
 
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SpiritLed said:
He does in verse 24.

Youre dodging my question.
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Believers are the only ones who can walk in the Spirit. As for your question, I agree, let's test it out. You go first.
 
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PennEd said:
YOU continue to slander the brethren. YOU continue to sin. YOU continue to say we say it is ok to sin.

PAUL says in Romans 3:8
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[FONT=&quot]And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported,and as some affirm that we say) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

That's what you have been doing for 5 days and 3 threads now. If you don't like what Paul is saying about YOU, then I'd recommend you repent of YOUR slanderous sin![/FONT]
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I have slandered nobody. I have tried to teach and I have warned.

You dont say it's good to sin, you say something EVEN WORSE: "That it's impossible to cease from it."

I can do ALL THING THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME.
 
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SpiritLed said:
I have slandered nobody. I have tried to teach and I have warned.

You dont say it's good to sin, you say something EVEN WORSE: "That it's impossible to cease from it."

I can do ALL THING THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME.
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YOUR sins are piling up now! Another slander and lie! Show me the post where I said it is impossible to cease sinning. If not, admit your lie and God will forgive you.
 
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Believers are the only ones who can walk in the Spirit. As for your question, I agree, let's test it out. You go first.
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You said I used the scripture out of context. Are you gonna tell me how or are you going to continue dodging the question?
 
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You said I used the scripture out of context. Are you gonna tell me how or are you going to continue dodging the question?
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I don't recall saying that. What you do is read much into scripture that is not there, and you leave out much that is there.
 
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I am talking about being righteous conscience, understanding what God has done
in our lives and then working with it.

Your language is based on the belief God does not build us into a new creation
to His glory. Do you not know love that works within us?
His love changes and transforms us, but to recognise this in your world is to
say I am self righteous. Sounds like you do not know what I have experienced.
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WHAT HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED?
 
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Grace777x70 said:
Go drink some poison on purpose and report back to us. While you are there - grab ahold of a cobra and let it bite you a few times. We'll see you in heaven my friend.

You make the wrong "application" to the verse you are mentioning and the reality of this error will become readily apparent to all.
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How did I use the verse out of context??
 
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YOUR sins are piling up now! Another slander and lie! Show me the post where I said it is impossible to cease sinning. If not, admit your lie and God will forgive you.
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Waiting Cameron....
 
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PennEd said:
YOUR sins are piling up now! Another slander and lie! Show me the post where I said it is impossible to cease sinning. If not, admit your lie and God will forgive you.
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Youre kidding me, right? I told everybody I have ceased from sinning and will never sin again, because I have ceased from sinning. You are all angry and arguing with me trying to prove it false saying that believers still sin. Are you being serious? Wow.
 
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I gotta go fulfill the plans I have made For the day, I'll return later.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
Amen..it is a deceptive doctrine that can ship-wrecked believers. The thing is - there is an element of truth in it but it is being "mis-applied" and thus they believe they can never sin in the flesh again.

In reality as we have seen - they do the works of the flesh quite a bit. In their minds they don't do any sinning anymore because they don't smoke, drink, swear, commit adultery but they don't mention all the other works of the flesh. Like "hypocrisy, slander, malice, strife causing..etc"
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Such is the way of the deceivers....Satan told the entire truth in Genesis, BUT ADDED ONE WORD which made the whole thing a lie.....the false teachers and deceivers do the same thing....JUST a little twist here or there.......is all it takes....
 
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