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Like I said before, the flesh is not dead. It is not eradicated at conversion nor at any time during the Christians life. To think it has been is to give the devil carte blanche in your life.
Why do you think Jesus Christ said "If those who believe drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them." Huhh???
 
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My flesh is already DEAD! THAT OLD MAN WAS CRUCIFIED WITH HIM AND THAT BODY OF SIN WAS DESTROYED. Why do you think Jesus Christ said "If those who believe drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them." Huhh???

It is not me who is "close to the truth of what it means to be "in the Spirit", YOU are the one who has believe the doctrine of devils making you believe that the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD doesn't CHANGE A MAN IN A COMPLETE NEWNESS OF LIFE, where nothing from the old man remains, not even in his mind.

This is where you are completely wrong my friend. The flesh is here until we go to be with the Lord. You are confusing the old man that was in Adam and the flesh. They are two different things. The old man is dead - he's a goner but the flesh with the power of sin in it - is still here.

That is why we need to have our minds renewed to the truths of the finished work of Christ and awake to righteousness which we are in our new creation and sin not.

Again you are slandering in saying that I don't say that the Spirit of God changes us to newness of life because I have said over 200x times here that we are a new creation in Christ and that living by His life in us will bear His fruit in our lives and bring the love and grace of God to others in this world that need to know Him for who He truly is.
 
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Why do you think Jesus Christ said "If those who believe drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them." Huhh???
Why do you think He said to Christians, “walk by the Spirit and you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh" ???
 
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Cameron. Read it again. It says YOUR damnation is just for saying that I am preaching that to sin is ok!
Did you really just say that? My damnation is just? Wow look at yourself, would you?

Now here's how I see it:
"Let us do evil, that good should come"
while you say
""Let us occasionally sin, and still go to heaven"
 
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This is where you are completely wrong my friend. The flesh is here until we go to be with the Lord. You are confusing the old man that was in Adam and the flesh. They are two different things. The old man is dead - he's a goner but the flesh with the power of sin in it - is still here.

That is why we need to have our minds renewed to the truths of the finished work of Christ and awake to righteousness which we are in our new creation and sin not.

Again you are slandering in saying that I don't say that the Spirit of God changes us to newness of life because I have said over 200x times here that we are a new creation in Christ and that living by His life in us will bear His fruit in our lives and bring the love and grace of God to others in this world that need to know Him for who He truly is.

Why do you think Jesus Christ said "If those who believe drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them." Huhh???
 
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Look at what Paul said to the 1 Corinthians. These people were going to the temple prostitutes for sex, they had strife and divisions amongst them, committing fornication, believers taking each other to court, not providing for the poor...etc

Paul told them who they were in Christ...then corrected their behavior

He didn't say you were all unsaved now or that because they were sinning that they were not born of God like some people try to teach.

( without understanding the new creation in Christ - this "sinning" part will throw people off because they don't understand what is being done by giving in to the flesh and what the new man is Christ really is. )

Paul told them who they were in Christ...
Here are 7 things that Paul confirmed as truth in the believers in Corinth before he went on to correct their behavior.


1) The Corinthians have been sanctified in Christ Jesus,

2) The Corinthians were now saints by calling

3) The Corinthians in everything were enriched in Him,

4)The Corinthians had the testimony concerning Christ was confirmed in them,

5) The Corinthians had that God will also confirm them to the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ

6)The Corinthians had that it was by Gods doing that we are in Christ ( Not our own D.I.Y. self-righteousness and holiness
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7) That because the Corinthians were in Christ - Christ Himself became to them wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption


1 Corinthians 1:1-9 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

[SUP]3 [/SUP] Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

[SUP]4 [/SUP] I thank my God always concerning you for the grace of God which was given you in Christ Jesus,

[SUP]5 [/SUP] that in everything you were enriched in Him, in all speech and all knowledge,

[SUP]6 [/SUP] even as the testimony concerning Christ was confirmed in you,
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that you are not lacking in any gift, awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ,

[SUP]8 [/SUP] who will also confirm you to the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[SUP]9 [/SUP] God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

1 Corinthians 1:30 (NASB)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,


Preach and teach the grace of Christ as it is the only think that teaches us how to live godly in this world. Titus 2:11-12. The word of His grace is the only thing that is able to build us up and that gives us the inheritance that is ours in Christ. Acts 20:32
 
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Did you really just say that? My damnation is just? Wow look at yourself, would you?

Now here's how I see it:
"Let us do evil, that good should come"
while you say
""Let us occasionally sin, and still go to heaven"
No. What we are saying is don't sin, because we know it is actually still an option. We're saying don't sin, but if you do we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
 
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Why do you think Jesus Christ said "If those who believe drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them." Huhh???
Go drink some poison on purpose and report back to us. While you are there - grab ahold of a cobra and let it bite you a few times. We'll see you in heaven my friend.

You make the wrong "application" to the verse you are mentioning and the reality of this error will become readily apparent to all.
 
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Why do you think He said to Christians, “walk by the Spirit and you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh" ???
For starters, he that said that wasnt *He*, that was Paul in Galatians, not Jesus. Not that it matters just wanted to inform you.

On the teaching, we are told to walk by the Spirit, another way of saying "through the Spirit MORTIFY THE DEEDS OF YOUR BODY" kill the deeds. With the Spirit. See? They have denied themselves, their own bodies, picked up their own cross like Jesus told us to do so! See??
 
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Go drink some poison on purpose and report back to us. While you are there - grab ahold of a cobra and let it bite you a few times. We'll see you in heaven my friend.

You make the wrong "application" to the verse you are mentioning and the reality of this error will become readily apparent to all.
You dont believe that believers can heal with laying on hands either if you don't believe the other SIGNS THAT SHALL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE... don't you believe?????? I do. And yes healing is true.
 
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For starters, he that said that wasnt *He*, that was Paul in Galatians, not Jesus. Not that it matters just wanted to inform you.

On the teaching, we are told to walk by the Spirit, another way of saying "through the Spirit MORTIFY THE DEEDS OF YOUR BODY" kill the deeds. With the Spirit. See? They have denied themselves, their own bodies, picked up their own cross like Jesus told us to do so! See??
If the flesh is dead, why the admonition for Christians to walk in the Spirit so as to not fulfill the desires of the flesh??
 
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You dont believe that believers can heal with laying on hands either if you don't believe the other SIGNS THAT SHALL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE... don't you believe?????? I do. And yes healing is true.
Smoke screens.
 

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Did you really just say that? My damnation is just? Wow look at yourself, would you?

Now here's how I see it:
"Let us do evil, that good should come"
while you say
""Let us occasionally sin, and still go to heaven"
What are you talking about? That verse is from Romans. PAUL says those who accuse the brethren of saying that it is ok to sin is condemned.

Isn't that exactly what you did?
 
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If the flesh is dead, why the admonition for Christians to walk in the Spirit so as to not fulfill the desires of the flesh??
He was teaching the Galatians that still needed to be taught it all. He warns 6 verses prior "A little leaven leavens the whole lump"
 
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Cameron. Read it again. It says YOUR damnation is just for saying that I am preaching that to sin is ok!
Look at what you said, this was DIRECTED AT ME BY YOU out of wrath of your own and you very well know it. Don't you dare lie and say you were quoting scripture.

Smh
 
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He was teaching the Galatians that still needed to be taught it all. He warns 6 verses prior "A little leaven leavens the whole lump"
You are dodging the question. Why?
 
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You are dodging the question. Why?
That was my answer. I'm not dodging. You dodged my checkmate question by calling it a smoke screen because you can't answer it. Let me post it again, maybe I'll get an answer this time.
 
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You dont believe that believers can heal with laying on hands either if you don't believe the other SIGNS THAT SHALL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE... don't you believe?????? I do. And yes healing is true.
 
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That was my answer. I'm not dodging. You dodged my checkmate question by calling it a smoke screen because you can't answer it. Let me post it again, maybe I'll get an answer this time.
Again. Why would he be teaching Christians a way to avoid fulfilling the desires of the flesh if the flesh is dead??
 
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You dont believe that believers can heal with laying on hands either if you don't believe the other SIGNS THAT SHALL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE... don't you believe?????? I do. And yes healing is true.
I do believe in that scripture. I do believe in laying hands of the sick. I don't believe that mis-applying it will bring the results you think.

Go drink some poison and grab a snake on purpose and let's test your theory out.
 
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