Salvation and how to "know" when you receive it.

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Jackson123

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eternally-gratefull said:
What is the difference between killing every day and lieing every day, or coveting every day.or having a bout of pride every day.

The fact is, there is no difference. And a child of God will not continue to do those things every day, The HS will not let them.
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Yep, killing every day is a sin, liying every day is a sin, AS long AS we repent and ask for forgiveness, than we are forgiven, but I believe If we not repent, than we lose our status AS His child
 
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mailmandan said:
So you believe that since unbelieving is singled out that "cowardly, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars" is descriptive of those who are born of God? What do we read in 1 John 3:7-10?

Galatians 5:21 points out that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Do children of God or children of the devil practice (willful, habitual lifestyle, no repentance just bring it on) such things?

1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
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so you are now perfect and do not sin anymore?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Jackson123 said:
Yep, killing every day is a sin, liying every day is a sin, AS long AS we repent and ask for forgiveness, than we are forgiven, but I believe If we not repent, than we lose our status AS His child
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Then we are under law and not under grace, and yes u can say your sorry all you want, the cross becomes to n affect to you. You would have us becoming dead to Christ having to be resaved or born again in many cases multiple times in on day.

I would pray you you did not die or get killed in between the last time you sinned, and the last Tim you repented. You would be lost forever.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Jackson123 said:
You talking about born again and It is Impossible for real Christian to kill every day?
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Would you let your child kill every day or put a stop to it? Why do you think God would be any different?
 
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Hello, Glad to meet a ''saved'' person !! The Lord loves anyone who calls on HIS name to be ''saved'' forever and ever

A free gift paid for by HIM
 
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meagain1945

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Salvation is a free gift. JESUS paid a terrible price for you. IF you refuse HIS gift you WILL pay for
your own sins.

There is a forever hell to pay IF you are NOT ''saved''
 
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eternally-gratefull

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mailmandan said:
I never said that. Does not "practice" sin does not mean that you never sin at all.
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just got to love it when people KNOW you do not believe something, turn around and try to make a point by asking you what they already KNOW you do not believe in order to try to discredit you, then act all innocent.
 
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For a long time in my life I didn't "know" about how to go about being saved,because my "First" Church didn't mention how to be saved,primarily focusing on "Water Baptism" as the only accepting of eternal life,years later I finally went to ironically my other side of the family and went to a church and the members there explained that "being saved" is a "knowing thing"it threw me for a loop,because I hadn't been told a "way" to do so,so I inquired further with members about if it's a "knowing thing" then how do I know if I'm saved when I don't know any process of being saved?
And they explained that "Salvation" is through Jesus and Given by God,when one humbly and sincerely,asks God to save their soul "And" accepts Jesus as saviour,then one can receive the holy spirit.
After some time of thinking on their words and thinking on what they meant,I eventually realized what they meant,they didn't tell me some "ceremony" or "task" to do to be saved because it wasn't about doing something to get "saved" it was about believing upon that Jesus died for my sin and that he is my saviour,alongside that I was to humble my heart to God asking for him to save my soul,realizing that I needed his guidance to not die in my sins,and that through Jesus I could be saved,ultimately coming to realize that God had been waiting on "Me" to ask for salvation humbly then accept it through accepting Jesus as saviour,and now I am holy spirit filled doing what I can for God through Chat sites,and simply doing what he asks of me!
That is how I know I am "Saved".
For "All" whom can "affirm" how to know if one is saved because you"know" you are saved,please share your own personal experience,or if one retorts this share your retort,either way please share "All" posts in an "unhateful" and "mature" way,God bless you!
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How do I know I am saved? Joy, pure joy the like of which I had never experienced and this came after I had accepted God in my heart but before I had spoken the sinner's prayer. God already knew I wanted Him to be part of my life before I spoke those words because of the weeks leading up to it. I spent the following two weeks "walking on air" and unable to concentrate on daily tasks including work lol and the first two years slightly less so.

There are some here who will tell me this cannot be so but I know what happened to me and when.
 
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Jackson123

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eternally-gratefull said:
Then we are under law and not under grace, and yes u can say your sorry all you want, the cross becomes to n affect to you. You would have us becoming dead to Christ having to be resaved or born again in many cases multiple times in on day.

I would pray you you did not die or get killed in between the last time you sinned, and the last Tim you repented. You would be lost forever.
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Is that mean you believe you do not need to repent every time you commit sin?

killing every day not lose your status AS a child?
 
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Jackson123 said:
In the contrary, I was think salvation by faith alone mean It doesn't matter If you kill or rape every day, you save, you only lose your reward, but save AS long AS you believe that Jesus is God.

After read matt 7, matt 25 And what my close friend did, I think there is correlation between salvation and work.

Indonesian have a culture, for wedding party, people invite 300 people or more, the rich may invite more than a thousand. It cost money. My friend is children sunday school teacher, he need money for his wedding party, he intendly rob the credit card more than 5000 dollar to make a big party, because he believe robing is Nothing to do with salvation. Only adfect oN reward

But the bible Said

Rev 21:8

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."


Not only affect oN reward, but salvation
Let me repeat, not that salvation, by work, but salvation change our work
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eternally-gratefull said:
These contradict each other.

If salvation changes our work. Then a person who is saved will not live as he did before.

Either savation changes you or it does not. you can;t have it both ways.
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What? 1,540 pages, 30,792 replies STILL isn't enough for you so time to bring the argument to more and more posts?
 
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posthuman

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What? 1,540 pages, 30,792 replies STILL isn't enough for you so time to bring the argument to more and more posts?
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may the day be soon, when grace and works both eat grass and lie down together at peace in the same field, under warm light.

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eternally-gratefull

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Jackson123 said:
Is that mean you believe you do not need to repent every time you commit sin?

killing every day not lose your status AS a child?
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if I have not repented I am already lost,

you cant repent every day, God will not be mocked, and if you already know something is sin and agree with God it is sin, you can not repent of it again,

again, you can not kill every day,

and again Ian I ask, what happn s if between the last time you sin and the time you repent you get killed your lost forever right?
 
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Jackson123

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eternally-gratefull said:
Would you let your child kill every day or put a stop to it? Why do you think God would be any different?
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if my child kill a human, I Will remind him not to, but he has a free Will.

God do not want us to commit sin even a s all sin, but AS a Christian we commit sin, not that God want us to, God want us to be Holy but not force It.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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What? 1,540 pages, 30,792 replies STILL isn't enough for you so time to bring the argument to more and more posts?
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Lol, so. Just let it go?

if you don't like it you do not need to stay, I can not remember haven spoken to this person before, anyway,

I am aloud to disagree with people am I not? Did these s room b come a dictatorship where we are not aloud to share our views or ur disagreements?
 
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