SCRIPTURES TEACHING US OF HEALING

[BenFTW]

​I keep telling you, I DO BELIEVE. I DO expect to be healed because I KNOW he can heal me IF he WANTS to. I've been handicapped since age 5, do the math. That's 40 years ago, so where's my healing? It shouldn't have to take an entire lifetime for God to heal someone..

Expecting is an assurance, you fully know it will come to pass. I expect water to quench my thirst when I drink it 'cause its a fact, it does. I also can expect God to heal me, because its a fact through Christ I have healing. He paid for it.

Now, for me to say I expect God to heal me, only if He so desires to is not expectation. It is me fully believing He has the capability to heal, but it is not me expecting He will heal me. Its an acknowledgement of His ability to heal, but not His willingness. As you said, "IF he WANTS to." There is a matter of doubt there, and disbelief because it is stating that a person doesn't know if its God's will to heal and therefore I hope, not expect, God heals me. Do you see it?

I am only stressing this so you can see it plainly. If we do not know if it is God's will to heal us, we can only hope that He does. VVe cannot expect Him to heal us if we do not know His will in regards to healing, we can only hope He heals us because we know He has the capability to do so. In other words, you do not expect God to heal you, but you hope He does because you know He is fully capable. VVhich is praiseworthy, you believe that God indeed did do the acts in His word He claims to have done. He is not a liar and you agree!

VVhat we need to fully grasp is that it is God's will to heal us, as it is His will to save every soul. Only it takes belief on the part of the sinner as it takes belief on the part of the sick (in order to be healed). Jesus paid, not only for our salvation, but also too the healing of our diseases. I need to fully believe this, not only that God can heal me if He so wills, but that He does will that I be healed through Christ. In this revelation that it is His will to heal me because of Jesus I can fully expect to be healed. Not hope, but actually believe unto a healing in the natural.

I pray that His will is revealed to you blue_ladybug so that you experience the healing Jesus purchased for you. In Jesus name, amen.

 

[John146]

These "healers" need to visit all the hospitals and assisted living facilities if they truly can heal.

Explain Messianic Judaism. Explain the many Jewish people coming to belief in the Messiah through Christians going to Israel and preaching the Gospel. Explain street healing videos of evangelist going through Israel healing the sick. Explain why we still see signs, wonders, and healing taking place if they have ceased? Maybe you should get out more, or just maybe, step out in faith to heal the sick and see your jaw drop as the Holy Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead is inside of you.

 

[BenFTW]

These "healers" need to visit all the hospitals and assisted living facilities if they truly can heal.

You too can be a vessel by which God heals the sick. It isn't some special role for the select few, but us being an extension of Christ to the world. Step out, in faith. Command healing, tell the pain to go in Jesus name and be amazed at the mighty God residing inside of you.

 

[Willie-T]

Something I see in the Bible that seems to be often overlooked is, how many of us consistently pray....... "I want to be healed, God, but please heal others first."

Jesus, basically, prayed this in the garden. And..... He then, went to the cross to accept what He prayed for, and to die.

 

[p_rehbein]

These "healers" need to visit all the hospitals and assisted living facilities if they truly can heal.

People don't heal...........God heals........through the Holy Spirit......Sanctified Believers PRAY for Him to heal.......nothing wrong with that. And many do visit Hospitals around the world, and many are healed by God that are anointed and prayed over. Seen it myself several times.

It's called Faith.

 

[p_rehbein]

All Israel shall be saved after the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. Israel will be saved in the millennial kingdom.

Be very sure you include the "disclaimer" in the passage of Scripture...........


23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.


Very important to include this............otherwise Scripture is not properly understood.

 

[jb]

David was speaking on behalf of himself' and he referred to natural healing in a general way not miraculous healing..

Nonsense!

Psalm 103v3 is a promise of healing from God for those who look to Him for it, there is NOTHING in the context that it refers to just natural healing, indeed, David in Psalm 103v2, says that it is a "benefit" from God!

QED!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Matthew 17:15-21
King James Version(KJV)

14.)And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,

15.) Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.

16.) And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.

17.) Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

18.) And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

19.) Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?

20.) And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

21.) Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Don't start with that demon nonsense again, seedtime.. Not ALL illness is caused by demons.

 

[BenFTW]

Don't start with that demon nonsense again, seedtime.. Not ALL illness is caused by demons.

It isn't about demons but disbelief. Jesus told the disciples to go fast for their disbelief, not because some demons you need to fast to cast out. The prayer and fasting was to deal with their unbelief (v.20).

 

[wolfwint]

Any time the Gospel was preached, signs and wonders surrounded it to confirm the message. It happened in both the lives of Jesus and the apostles. If they are to be our example in preaching the Gospel, then we too should have confirming signs, wonders, and healing.

Dear Brother, you are right in case of Jesus and the apostles, but we should not forget:
To whom they preached? To the non believers, to people who don’t know Jesus ore expect the coming of the Messiah! In their time they had no scripture and needed the preached word. (Roman 10,14) And they needed the signs to proof what they preached (John 20,28-30)
And in even in this time, the most people who saw the miracles and healings finaly don’t believedin Jesus, but came for to get the physical benefit.
And it was God who opend the heart by hearing the gospel and not the miracle ore healing!

Today in our western world (and in many other parts) all people have,( when they want) the opportunity to read ore hear the word of god.
My experience is, that people like to talk about god. But they don’t want hear about Jesus.
In the mission fields ( I was 20 years involved in ministrie in India) we see more what you mentioned. That missionaries ore the church prayed and the Lord answered the prayer with healing. Without that anybody claim to have the gift of healing. Because to show that he is the one and only god.
But be honest, as a Christian who has the Holy Spirit I don’t need the proof that Jesus is God!
Everybody can pray for others ore himself to God. And it is in Gods hand and knowledge what is better for us (see Paul and his thorn in flesh) But this has nothing to to that we have the mission to heal the people. And this has nothing to do with a gift of healing. This is the job of our Lord in his almighty wisedom.
If you claim now, as some others do, that the will of God is that we as believers are no more sick and handicapped, then you preach another gospel! The main goal from Jesus was not to heal the believers. His goal was and is to save the lost!
Then you preach something what Jesus never has promised. And if you say to sick and suffering people that they are not going healed because of lack on faith, you bring trouble and despair into their lifes. Because you talking about an human made promise and not a god made promise.
If your theorie would be right, then we Christians don’t would know sickness and depression and handicap in our Life. Then we as Christians should not stay in front of our computers, but went to the hospitals and old people homes and in the slums and anywhere we can find sick people, instead of discussing about theorie.
Of course you can believe your theorie, but you are responsible for that what you’re talking. And sorry, the proof for that is not on your side!

the Lord may bless you