Should I Tithe or Pay My Bills? Part 2

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Jesus said in Matthew 6:21 these words, "For where your treasure is, there will be your heart also." So my question to you is, how do you know if Jesus has your heart?
I think I know this one. Jesus has my heart if I don't pay my bills ? :confused:
 

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Maybe you could explain to us, who "the devourer" is. :) If you owe money to someone, then you need to pay the debt.

does "they devour widows houses" remind you more of ((for ex.)) Benny Hinn or of a mortgage payment?
 

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i miss Yet


he would have loved this thread lol
 
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​Since you are Judaizing, how do we do that?
what does that mean?

please explain what you mean by that

you appear to have a different understanding of what a Judaizer is than I do and certainly anyone I know

I know for a fact I have never told any man to have his foreskin removed in order to be accepted by Christ

you must have a different understanding of the word

but I present the word 'gospel' to you

you are not preaching it
 
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Satan is taking your money? :confused: How so?
The bush will not be consume if it is of the spirit. The bush will be consume if it is of the flesh. Exodus 3:2

Everything that man does dies; everything Jesus does lives forever and is blessed. (Psalm 1:3; John 15:1-8)
 

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And why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?
Make every effort to reconcile with your adversary while you are on your way to the magistrate. Otherwise, he may drag you off to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and the officer may throw you into prison.
I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the very last penny!

(Luke 12:57-59)

do we need to give someone money in order to be reconciled to God?
if we are reconciled with God, should we
make every effort to be financially reconciled with men?

what does "
seek first the kingdom and His righteousness" mean, now? :rolleyes:


 
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And why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?
Make every effort to reconcile with your adversary while you are on your way to the magistrate. Otherwise, he may drag you off to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and the officer may throw you into prison.
I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the very last penny!

(Luke 12:57-59)

do we need to give someone money in order to be reconciled to God?
if we are reconciled with God, should we
make every effort to be financially reconciled with men?

what does "
seek first the kingdom and His righteousness" mean, now? :rolleyes:


Does Christ have your heart? If so how? What test is used in the bible by Jesus to see if He has your heart?
 

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Does Christ have your heart? If so how? What test is used in the bible by Jesus to see if He has your heart?
didn't He say that if your brother has a grievance with you that you should leave your gift at the altar and settle your account with him first?

probably if your heart is after Him you will do things that line up with the things He teaches ought to be done.
 
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And why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?
Make every effort to reconcile with your adversary while you are on your way to the magistrate. Otherwise, he may drag you off to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and the officer may throw you into prison.
I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the very last penny!

(Luke 12:57-59)

do we need to give someone money in order to be reconciled to God?
if we are reconciled with God, should we
make every effort to be financially reconciled with men?

what does "
seek first the kingdom and His righteousness" mean, now? :rolleyes:


Seek first the Kingdom of God (You shall have no other gods before Me) and His righteousness (Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary where the victory was won).
 
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didn't He say that if your brother has a grievance with you that you should leave your gift at the altar and settle your account with him first?

probably if your heart is after Him you will do things that line up with the things He teaches ought to be done.
The "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" had good in it as well. But how do I know if Jesus has my heart? Please post with scripture.
 
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Does Christ have your heart? If so how? What test is used in the bible by Jesus to see if He has your heart?
 
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Does Christ have your heart? If so how? What test is used in the bible by Jesus to see if He has your heart?
Ummm ... defaulting on your debts and giving your money to JSM or some other T.V preacher, more often than not a pentecostal ? :rolleyes: Jesus never tested anybody in order for Him to find something out. He said and did what he did in order that we should learn about ourselves. He already knew/knows our hearts. Paying what we owe to others in no way equates with loving money over God. If that were the case, I'd never live up to my responsibility to pay everything I owe. Why should I ? I'd have God's blessing in not doing so.
 
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Ummm ... defaulting on your debts and giving your money to JSM or some other T.V preacher, more often than not a pentecostal ? :rolleyes: Jesus never tested anybody in order for Him to find something out. He said and did what he did in order that we should learn about ourselves. He already knew/knows our hearts. Paying what we owe to others in no way equates with loving money over God. If that were the case, I'd never live up to my responsibility to pay everything I owe. Why should I ? I'd have God's blessing in not doing so.
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test? 2 Corinthians 13:5 NIV


What test is used in the bible to see if you are in faith?
Answer...Luke 16:9-13 Christians are tested with the least in the Kingdom of God which is money.

Considering what Jesus has said here (Luke 16:9-13 NKJV), I think it would be difficult to overstate the significance of this down to earth, practical teaching, that applies to everyone. If a person cannot be trusted with money, and in any capacity, Jesus plainly says, he cannot be trusted with Salvation, i.e., "true riches." In view of the seriousness of what is being said, we would do well to heed carefully.

In these passages (Luke 16:9-13), Jesus is saying that irrespective of how loudly and how often we profess our Godliness, if it does not show up in our practical, every day living, and especially in the matters of money, and our responsibility toward others, our profession is vain. This statement is plain and clear, if we are unfaithful in these things. "Who will commit to our trust the true riches?"

True riches in Luke 16 means spiritual matters.


It takes faith to tithe (gross). Every time you get paid are you going to believe that God’s Word works...that 90 percent with God’s blessing goes further than 100 percent without?

Many Christians want to be blessed in this area, but don't want to be address in this area!
 
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Does God open the floodgate of heaven with blessings for the Christian that tithes with love for Jesus or does God open the floodgate of heaven for the Christian that gives with love for Jesus? If God opens the floodgate of heaven for the Christian that gives with love for Jesus please post the scripture(s).

Give and it will be given to you vs. The open floodgate of heaven. Or are they the same meaning?
 
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