Should we wait for the devil, or is it time to begin building Ezekiel's Temple?

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Greetings to all!

Forgive me, I do not speak English well, Google's translation helps me.

Many people say to me: first an exact copy of the Temple of Herod in Jerusalem must be built, then the devil will come to that temple, then Christ will kill the antichrist, and only then the Messianic Temple will be built in accordance with the prophesy of Ezekiel.

Today we have the book of the prophet Ezekiel. In this book there is an accurate description of the messianic Temple and an exact indication of the place where it should be built. In accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel, the Temple must be built in place with coordinates 31 ° 28'58 "N 35 ° 14'37" E, this place is located in the Judean Desert, 30 kilometers south of Jerusalem, between Ein Gedi and Hebron.

How was this place determined? In the prophecy, the dimensions of the holy allotment indicated as in the reeds, and not in the cubits, as erroneously translated in many Bible translations. In depicting the wrong size of the boundaries of the sacred sites, the Messianic believers made the second mistake: they turned the measured segments by 90 degrees, because they interpreted the phrase (Ez. 48:20) "towards the north" as "from the north".

Where Ezekiel describes the process of measurement, the direction of motion measured is shown, and not the side of the light with which the measured value is located!

In the Russian translation of the Bible, these errors were not, so we immediately found the right place.

"Toward the north 25,000 cubits in length, toward the west 10,000 in width" is the length and width of a piece of land in the center of which the Temple is to be built. Any Christian can himself make these measurements in the free program of Google Earth.






There are several photos of this place on the Internet.



Between the mountain, whose height is 543 meters and the mountain, which is in the picture to the right, another photo is made:



Obviously, this is the place of Jehovah Jireh in the land of Moriah, which is mistakenly attributed to the Temple Mount, calling it Mount Moriah. Please note: in the Bible these places are named in different ways: "land of Moriah" (Gen. 22:2) and "Mount Moriah" (2nd Chron.).

Maybe it's worth trying to find Abraham's broken knife there?

If God knew everything in advance, he probably showed the stone under which Abraham had to hide the horns, hooves, skin and entrails of the sacrificial ram, and where Abraham had to destroy his knife, with which he almost killed his son. If, after 4000 years on this site should build a temple, God knew this in advance, and a place for the burial of the remains of the sacrifice and the knife could be only one: at 100 meters to the west of the altar, where the place for the remains of sacrificial animals in the future Temple.



Maybe someone thinks that now we know the place of the future temple, but do not know the structure of the temple itself? We have drawings and there is a 3d model of Ezekiel's Temple.



This is a preliminary assembly of the 3d model.



Yes, yes, of course, this is the marriage feast!

If you are interested in more detailed drawings and files 3d model, then I am ready to provide them to you. I can not guarantee that absolutely everything there correctly reflects the prophecy of Ezekiel, but the main thing there is shown correctly, therefore you can start working on the architectural implementation of this prophecy.

I do not want to go into the theological dispute about the Antichrist, the weeks of Daniel, the great tribulation, the two witnesses, and the like. I just want to ask everyone one question.

Should we wait today for the devil when he deigns to build a copy of the former Jerusalem Temple in Jerusalem, or should we turn to God with all our heart and then the book of the prophet Ezekiel will show us how and where we should build this Messianic Temple?

There can be only two answers: yes or no.

1. We must do today everything that is in our power to build the Temple, which is shown to us in the book of the prophet Ezekiel. We must carefully study this prophecy, find architects, invite archaeologists, raise money for construction, seek permission from the Israeli government for construction in the reserve zone in the Judean Desert.

2. We will wait for the devil. We'll wait until the long-awaited Antichrist finally comes, and then maybe something will happen.
 

Adstar

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Greetings to all!

Forgive me, I do not speak English well, Google's translation helps me.

Many people say to me: first an exact copy of the Temple of Herod in Jerusalem must be built, then the devil will come to that temple, then Christ will kill the antichrist, and only then the Messianic Temple will be built in accordance with the prophesy of Ezekiel.

Today we have the book of the prophet Ezekiel. In this book there is an accurate description of the messianic Temple and an exact indication of the place where it should be built. In accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel, the Temple must be built in place with coordinates 31 ° 28'58 "N 35 ° 14'37" E, this place is located in the Judean Desert, 30 kilometers south of Jerusalem, between Ein Gedi and Hebron.

How was this place determined? In the prophecy, the dimensions of the holy allotment indicated as in the reeds, and not in the cubits, as erroneously translated in many Bible translations. In depicting the wrong size of the boundaries of the sacred sites, the Messianic believers made the second mistake: they turned the measured segments by 90 degrees, because they interpreted the phrase (Ez. 48:20) "towards the north" as "from the north".

Where Ezekiel describes the process of measurement, the direction of motion measured is shown, and not the side of the light with which the measured value is located!

In the Russian translation of the Bible, these errors were not, so we immediately found the right place.

"Toward the north 25,000 cubits in length, toward the west 10,000 in width" is the length and width of a piece of land in the center of which the Temple is to be built. Any Christian can himself make these measurements in the free program of Google Earth.






There are several photos of this place on the Internet.



Between the mountain, whose height is 543 meters and the mountain, which is in the picture to the right, another photo is made:



Obviously, this is the place of Jehovah Jireh in the land of Moriah, which is mistakenly attributed to the Temple Mount, calling it Mount Moriah. Please note: in the Bible these places are named in different ways: "land of Moriah" (Gen. 22:2) and "Mount Moriah" (2nd Chron.).

Maybe it's worth trying to find Abraham's broken knife there?

If God knew everything in advance, he probably showed the stone under which Abraham had to hide the horns, hooves, skin and entrails of the sacrificial ram, and where Abraham had to destroy his knife, with which he almost killed his son. If, after 4000 years on this site should build a temple, God knew this in advance, and a place for the burial of the remains of the sacrifice and the knife could be only one: at 100 meters to the west of the altar, where the place for the remains of sacrificial animals in the future Temple.



Maybe someone thinks that now we know the place of the future temple, but do not know the structure of the temple itself? We have drawings and there is a 3d model of Ezekiel's Temple.



This is a preliminary assembly of the 3d model.



Yes, yes, of course, this is the marriage feast!

If you are interested in more detailed drawings and files 3d model, then I am ready to provide them to you. I can not guarantee that absolutely everything there correctly reflects the prophecy of Ezekiel, but the main thing there is shown correctly, therefore you can start working on the architectural implementation of this prophecy.

I do not want to go into the theological dispute about the Antichrist, the weeks of Daniel, the great tribulation, the two witnesses, and the like. I just want to ask everyone one question.

Should we wait today for the devil when he deigns to build a copy of the former Jerusalem Temple in Jerusalem, or should we turn to God with all our heart and then the book of the prophet Ezekiel will show us how and where we should build this Messianic Temple?

There can be only two answers: yes or no.

1. We must do today everything that is in our power to build the Temple, which is shown to us in the book of the prophet Ezekiel. We must carefully study this prophecy, find architects, invite archaeologists, raise money for construction, seek permission from the Israeli government for construction in the reserve zone in the Judean Desert.

2. We will wait for the devil. We'll wait until the long-awaited Antichrist finally comes, and then maybe something will happen.
The Anti-christ must come first and then He shall be destroyed by the coming of the LORD Jesus Christ.. So we do not have to concern ourselves with building anything.. Because the LORD will see to it after His return.. There are some who think they can accelerate the return of the LORD by making things happen earlier then God wills.. God gives people strong warning by the prophet Amos

Amos 5:
17 "And in all vineyards shall be wailing: for I will pass through thee, saith the LORD. {18} Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. {19} As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. {20} Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?"
 
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Interesting research. At this point I cannot imagine the government of Israel allowing the building of that Temple. Also the Muslims would probably go for all out war over the building of such a Temple. Your study does make one think.
 
Apr 4, 2017
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Why would Abraham's knife be broken?

Why would he not have taken it back home with him?
After the sacrifice to God, the knife became a shrine and could not be used in domestic needs. And for Abraham himself, this knife became a terrible thing, because he almost killed his son with this knife.

The right decision: hide such a knife, and then no one finds a shrine, it must be destroyed, put out of order.
 

valiant

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Interesting research. At this point I cannot imagine the government of Israel allowing the building of that Temple. Also the Muslims would probably go for all out war over the building of such a Temple. Your study does make one think.
Ezekiel's Temple existed in Ezekiel's time. It was only visible to believers. Any temple built now will be against the purposes of God. Our temple is in Heaven with our great High Priest, accessible through His blood.
 
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I want to add that in the prophecy of Ezekiel, it is entirely possible to understand everything.
 

Johnny_B

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Welcome to CC
 
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I also want to say that it is absolutely impossible to build a Temple in Jerusalem.



A huge area should be fenced around the temple complex. In Jerusalem near the Temple Mount there are cemeteries, this is completely unacceptable: the dead body is the source of the sources of ritual uncleanness. In accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel, the Temple should be located on the southern slope of the mountain, and the Temple Mount is located northeast of the summit of the hill of Zion. From under the threshold of the Temple should flow the water, it can be done in Jerusalem only by building a large pumping station. And it will be necessary to cut through the canals from Jerusalem in the mountains, rocks, through the whole Judean desert, to Ein Gedi at the Dead Sea.

Nothing like this will be necessary if we just build the Temple in accordance with the measurements shown to us in the book of the prophet Ezekiel. There are no cemeteries in the desert. The reservoir of groundwater descends from the Hebron uplands towards the Dead Sea. The southern slope of the mountain, on which the place found in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel, is a watershed of two streams carrying their waters to the Dead Sea. The upper creek is called Nahal Arugoth, it carries water to Ein Gedi, and the southern creek is called Nahal Hever, it carries water to a place called Ein Eglaim.

 
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We must do today everything that is in our power to build the Temple, which is shown to us in the book of the prophet Ezekiel.
What do you think this temple would be used for? They would be worshiping Jesus? No, they would not. You are enabling the practice of the false religion of Judaism. Have you not read the Bible which says our very bodies (as Jesus-followers) are now the "temple"?

The Lord Jesus has been slain once for all...for the sins of the world. What need is there for this temple? You haven't thought it through.

Or worse -- you're a deliberate agent of Judaism, perhaps? You tell me.
 
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What do you think this temple would be used for? They would be worshiping Jesus? No, they would not. You are enabling the practice of the false religion of Judaism. Have you not read the Bible which says our very bodies (as Jesus-followers) are now the "temple"?

The Lord Jesus has been slain once for all...for the sins of the world. What need is there for this temple? You haven't thought it through.

Or worse -- you're a deliberate agent of Judaism, perhaps? You tell me.
Have you ever read the book of the prophet Ezekiel? There is shown in the description of the temple something bad, for example, the Antichrist, or "the abomination of desolation"?

Ezekiel's Temple is completely messianic, the messengers of all the churches, the 144,000, should appear in this Temple, they are shown in the prophecy of Ezekiel as "the glory of the Lord."

And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate facing toward the east.

(Ezekel 43:4)

This is the appearance of the glory of the Lord and is the second coming of Jesus Christ. And while this temple is not there, the devil will rule the world. Jews will turn to Messiah Yeshua only when the Temple is built.

And the need for this Temple is that the church should become one. When there are 100,500 denominations in the world, there is no unity, there is no one Church of Jesus Christ.

The Third Temple is our general meeting in the presence of the Lord.
 
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I personally believe if a "temple" is to be built, it will be more along the lines of the original tabernacle comparable to what was used by Moses and Aaron....
 

JGIG

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Have you ever read the book of the prophet Ezekiel? There is shown in the description of the temple something bad, for example, the Antichrist, or "the abomination of desolation"?

Ezekiel's Temple is completely messianic, the messengers of all the churches, the 144,000, should appear in this Temple, they are shown in the prophecy of Ezekiel as "the glory of the Lord."

And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate facing toward the east.

(Ezekel 43:4)

This is the appearance of the glory of the Lord and is the second coming of Jesus Christ. And while this temple is not there, the devil will rule the world. Jews will turn to Messiah Yeshua only when the Temple is built.

And the need for this Temple is that the church should become one. When there are 100,500 denominations in the world, there is no unity, there is no one Church of Jesus Christ.

The Third Temple is our general meeting in the presence of the Lord.

The concept of Ezekiel's Temple is contrary to the New Covenant, and here's why:


  • Christ is the Perfect, Permanent, High Priest of the New Covenant.
  • There will never again be sacrifices on any altar in any temple sanctioned by God. Christ was the once for all, for all time, final sacrifice.
  • God does not need a physical Temple in which to dwell; He dwells within those who are in Christ.

Furthermore, Ezekiel's Temple was a proposal by God to Israel: "If you, then this." Israel never took God up on the deal. Therefore it is not prophecy yet to be fulfilled, but an opportunity which has long since passed.

Any future building of any future temple will be an abomination to God, not a way to honor or draw near to Him.

17 For it is declared:


“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”



18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. (from Heb. 7)


-JGIG
 
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I personally believe if a "temple" is to be built, it will be more along the lines of the original tabernacle comparable to what was used by Moses and Aaron....
In this project, the Temple has a semblance of a large tent, the Tabernacle:







Furthermore, Ezekiel's Temple was a proposal by God to Israel: "If you, then this." Israel never took God up on the deal.
-JGIG
Apparently, you do not consider your congregation as Israel. That is, you will not have a representative among the 144000. OK.
 
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MattTooFor

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Apparently, you do not consider your congregation as Israel. That is, you will not have a representative among the 144000. OK.
Wow -- you are really off on some kind of strange tangent. And devoid of scriptural support, I might add.

Where and when in the New Testament are believers instructed to pool huge sums of money...then travel thousands of miles across the globe...to build a structure? Where is this called for in the NT? Answer: Absolutely nowhere.

It is utterly absurd...that believers should turn their lives upside down for a useless building project. We have not been called to build structures in far-flung corners of the planet. Gooood grief, man.

We have not been called to undertake a formal "unification" project. You can't 'unify' with other groups that have strange beliefs. I'm not going to sacrifice all my beliefs and my doctrinal distinctives...to have building project.
 
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MattTooFor

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Apparently, you do not consider your congregation as Israel. That is, you will not have a representative among the 144000. OK.
So your saying...people who do not participate in this building project...aren't saved. Very nice.
 
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Wow -- you are really off on some kind of strange tangent. And devoid of scriptural support, I might add.

Where and when in the New Testament are believers instructed to pool huge sums of money...then travel thousands of miles across the globe...to build a structure? Where is this called for in the NT? Answer: Absolutely nowhere.

It is utterly absurd...that believers should turn their lives upside down for a useless building project. We have not been called to build structures in far-flung corners of the planet. Gooood grief, man.

We have not been called to undertake a formal "unification" project. You can't 'unify' with other groups that have strange beliefs. I'm not going to sacrifice all my beliefs and my doctrinal distinctives...to have building project.
And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Have you ever wondered in which place you will need to gather?
 
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So your saying...people who do not participate in this building project...aren't saved. Very nice.
You understood me wrong. Not those who did not participate in the construction will not be saved. Such a church community, from which no one will enter the eastern gate of the Temple in the days of sanctification of the altar, runs the risk of not being saved.
 

JGIG

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Apparently, you do not consider your congregation as Israel. That is, you will not have a representative among the 144000. OK.
You understood me wrong. Not those who did not participate in the construction will not be saved. Such a church community, from which no one will enter the eastern gate of the Temple in the days of sanctification of the altar, runs the risk of not being saved.
So . . . what must one do to be saved, in your view?

Please specify, with contextual Scripture.

Thanks,
-JGIG
 

NayborBear

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I want to add that in the prophecy of Ezekiel, it is entirely possible to understand everything.
In my humble opinion man?.....GO FOR IT! Expand the settlements until ya gain that area! Tis my opinion, that there can be NO "2 state solution"!

BUILD IT!