Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

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Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 22.6%
  • No

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • If they have long hair, they can skip the head covering.

    Votes: 5 16.1%

  • Total voters
    31
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Take a look at this,

1 Corinthians 11:1-5 NKJV
[1] Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ. [2] Now I praise you, brethren, that
you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them
to you. [3] But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the
head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. [4] Every man praying
or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. [5] But every
woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head,
for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved.

The above was a cultural tradition not a commandment.
We are to guard or keep the traditions of God in respect to that ceremonial law. They are used to reveal the unseen glory of God represented by man and woman working together as one. Keeping the traditions of God is keeping the traditions of God .Turning them into a fashion statements only shows someone is not keeping the traditions as ceremonial laws of God.

He puts no difference between keeping and keeping the commandants of God as the traditions of God. It goes along with the verse you offered below, not apposing it as if it was a oral tradition of men


This was a commandment, see the difference.

John 13:34 NKJV
[34] A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you,
that you also love one another.
Will you obey the commandment and not cover your head or will you do as the Jew does, cover it to do despite as a representative glory so that men can glory in there own flesh to represent themselves ?
If people actually followed that commandment, women wouldn't dress provocatively in church
which might cause a brother to fall and men wouldn't shackle women with unnecessary
traditions to take away their freedom in Christ.
Its not about dressing provocatively which they should not seeing it could subtract from the unseen glory of God when more than one family gathers together. . It is about the ceremonial law covering their hair, a representative glory of God’s unseen glory. He did not leave woman as those who outwardly represent the bride of Christ, the whole church, without a glory of their own .

Its all about the representative glory of God not seen, used as a shadow until the marriage is consummated
 
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Miri

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We are to guard or keep the traditions of God in respect to that ceremonial law. They are used to reveal the unseen glory of God represented by man and woman working together as one. Keeping the traditions of God is keeping the traditions of God .Turning them into a fashion statements only shows someone is not keeping the traditions as ceremonial laws of God.

He puts no difference between keeping and keeping the commandants of God as the traditions of God. It goes along with the verse you offered below, not apposing it as if it was a oral tradition of men


This was a commandment, see the difference.



Will you obey the commandment and not cover your head or will you do as the Jew does, cover it to do despite as a representative glory so that men can glory in there own flesh to represent themselves ?


Its not about dressing provocatively which they should not seeing it could subtract from the unseen glory of God when more than one family gathers together. . It is about the ceremonial law covering their hair, a representative glory of God’s unseen glory. He did not leave woman as those who outwardly represent the bride of Christ, the whole church, without a glory of their own .

Its all about the representative glory of God not seen, used as a shadow until the marriage is consummated

Completely read the whole thing out of context and did not understand anything written.
 
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Completely read the whole thing out of context and did not understand anything written.
Did you try and read it in context, why go out side of it?
 
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The context as I understand

The law as an ordinance is a joint work as a ceremonial law. If one does no obey the law and cover the head the other who does cover in the end the ordinance is made to no effect as a whole. It’s a sign to the angels or messengers of God (not created in the image of God) who long to look into the grace that brings salvation. Its one of those things asked as a question: when Christ comes will he find statements of His faith or ceremonial laws changed into fashion statements that come and go? I think the importance of that representative glory could lose its intent.

Because of the time of reformation the government of God is restored to another order not using Kings, high Priests and sacrifices in ceremonial laws to preach the gospel in respect to the suffering of Christ in advance. The veil is rent. A new ceremonial law which as a shadow points ahead to it fulfillment the unseen glory of God it is in respect of the consummation of the wedding supper represented by the bread and blood of the grapes it is made up of more than one ordinance. The head/hair covering and uncovering, the taking of the bread and wine and woman remaining silent during the ceremony are as all one.to be practiced during ceremonies (not a moral law)

God who has no form as a glory to behold , in Christ our head used the outward form of man as a representative glory .Man’s head is to remain uncovered to be used as a shadow to point to the invisible head Christ. Man being made as the representative head has woman as the representative glory of man. God did not leave woman without her own representative glory… her hair. It must be covered seeing the only glory to be seen in ceremonial laws is the unseen glory of God we see that by faith the light of God’s word on our path.

Woman is given the honor to represent the whole new creation of what we will be as that seen, signifying neither male or female Jew nor Gentile,) but the eternal bride.

Like what called Paul used as a segregate mother holding out the gospel as the seed Christ, suffering as in birth pains till Christ be formed in Timothy who as a new creation is referred to as the “chaste virgin” the bride of Christ the church .She is made up of its members male and female who have not fornificated with the gods of this world but kept faithful to Christ our spiritual husband

2Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ

I would offer today the man again represents the unseen head They would need to be more visible and not like Adam in the garden who hid behind his wife giving over the representative headship

Woman having a greater outward witness to the world that does not walk by faith, again the special order to represent the whole new creation .Being silent represents the church as the bride of Christ,the church is not the head, .the reason for the fall the man did not protect the bride of Christ typified as Eve.

.The father of lies knowing he could affect the whole creation by going after the assigned weaker vessel .

Hair a outward representative of his unseen glory using the woman giving the honor of representing the bride of Christ or whole church in respect to the new creation represent the church.

Hair as a beautifier or the lack of it can make a good study. Lack of it, bald speaks of shame or a ceremonial law used in a new convert .

When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. Deu 21:10


It is used in vows or naming a sect (Nazarenes) Samson hair was used to represent the strength as a representative glory of God the bride of Christ. Unconverted hair on a man not inspired by a ceremonial law as a way of claiming victory as a false glory is seen with Absalom who defiled his sister and fathers wives.destroying the picture of Him and the church

It is used in Revelation in a parable showing the father of lies in a last ditch effort coming in full false glory. ; and their faces were as the faces of men.And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. coming to seek who ever the father of lies devours with his lies. Today it is being turned upside down Olympic men who make woman of the year. To take away the difference between a man and a woman as if the kingdom of God had come an we had received our new incorruptible bodies .


And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion,( the source of false prophecy) when he striketh a man.And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. Rev 9:6