Without the whole teaching of the Word, people must fall short of what it says even though it is written on the Pages clearly. The whole preaching is with power and signs. Paul mentions this several times, but when we have teachers who have no connection with a supernatural God, our eyes are veiled as well our hearts (eyes of our hearts), and we cannot make out what is plainly written. This phenomenon is proof that just as the disciples didn't understand the Scriptures till Jesus-- after three years-- finally breathed the Spirit on them so they could understand it, only the Spirit can unfold the Scriptures to us. Without His revelation, we can look and read and research and never see or come to a knowledge of the truth.
Spiritual gifts?
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Hi everyone.. I hope everyone is blessed today
I have a question.. how do you know what your Gift from God is? And how do we work in them?
Do you know what your gift is?
Thank you God bless.
I have a question.. how do you know what your Gift from God is? And how do we work in them?
Do you know what your gift is?
Thank you God bless.
Yahweh Shalom
Jason, I believe that the easiest way to find and use our gifts is to apply the talent(s) that God has blessed us with. God blessed me with the talent to repair broken things. I found that as I matured in my faith, this talent opened the door to share the Gospel and encourage others. I always tell those who are struggling with identifying their gift(s), to first identify the talent(s) that they have been blessed with.
Hi everyone.. I hope everyone is blessed today
I have a question.. how do you know what your Gift from God is? And how do we work in them?
Do you know what your gift is?
Thank you God bless.
I have a question.. how do you know what your Gift from God is? And how do we work in them?
Do you know what your gift is?
Thank you God bless.
Too much to go over. Whole truth only comes with whole teaching (i.e. teaching plus the power of the Holy Spirit). Anything less is unwhole or partial. The Spirit fell on people on whom the apostles didn't lay hands. I will just say this: you are only 52. I believe you will be around when these signs and gifts that supposedly ceased and that only apostles supposedly can give begin to manifest once again. Amen to that.
The believers in Samaria didn't receive the Holy Spirit until Peter and John came to them. Paul said that Timothy received his gift through the laying on of his hands.
6 Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands. (2Ti 1:6 NKJ)
I've already posted the passage where Ananias laid hands on Paul and he received the Holy Spirit. That's how the gifts were given.
Also, when the Scriptures mention the signs and wonders in the later days they are lying signs and wonders.
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The Bible also says that Peter was a disciple as was John and the others. As I pointed out, an apostle is one who is sent by someone else on their behalf. Jesus called Ananias and told him to go to Paul and to tell him what Jesus had told Ananias to tell him and to heal and give him the Holy Spirit.
NKJ Luke 9:1 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases.
2 He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick.
3 And He said to them, "Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece.
4 "Whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart.
5 "And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them."
6 So they departed and went through the towns, preaching the gospel and healing everywhere.
7 Now Herod the tetrarch heard of all that was done by Him; and he was perplexed, because it was said by some that John had risen from the dead,
8 and by some that Elijah had appeared, and by others that one of the old prophets had risen again.
9 Herod said, "John I have beheaded, but who is this of whom I hear such things?" So he sought to see Him.
10 And the apostles, when they had returned, told Him all that they had done. Then He took them and went aside privately into a deserted place belonging to the city called Bethsaida. (Luk 9:1-10 NKJ)
Notice how Luke records this event, before the twelve were sent Luke calls them disciples, yet, after they've returned he calls them apostles. That's because when they were sent they became the apostles of Christ. Likewise Ananias was sent by Christ thus he was an apostle of Christ to Paul. He wasn't one of the twelve but he was and apostle.
NKJ Luke 9:1 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases.
2 He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick.
3 And He said to them, "Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece.
4 "Whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart.
5 "And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them."
6 So they departed and went through the towns, preaching the gospel and healing everywhere.
7 Now Herod the tetrarch heard of all that was done by Him; and he was perplexed, because it was said by some that John had risen from the dead,
8 and by some that Elijah had appeared, and by others that one of the old prophets had risen again.
9 Herod said, "John I have beheaded, but who is this of whom I hear such things?" So he sought to see Him.
10 And the apostles, when they had returned, told Him all that they had done. Then He took them and went aside privately into a deserted place belonging to the city called Bethsaida. (Luk 9:1-10 NKJ)
Notice how Luke records this event, before the twelve were sent Luke calls them disciples, yet, after they've returned he calls them apostles. That's because when they were sent they became the apostles of Christ. Likewise Ananias was sent by Christ thus he was an apostle of Christ to Paul. He wasn't one of the twelve but he was and apostle.
Yes, but I believe the talents can change or grow (just like how work can change as God needs to move us around). The gifts produce and change with the talents. I was in a counseling job, and it got to be too much. It was exhausting. God used the healing gift within this job. As I sought other work, I got into a different type of work and now I am a teacher, and he used these same gifts and others within the teaching talent. It's like different cakes. He mixes healing gifts with a touch of teaching salt, then edification gifts within a cup of counseling job. lol....
WHO IS ISRAEL? DO YOU NOT KNOW? HAVE YOU NOT HEARD THE GOOD NEWS?
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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[TD]1Co 12:28[/TD]
[TD]And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.[/TD]
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[TD]Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?[/TD]
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[TD]1Co 12:31[/TD]
[TD]But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
personally, we have to thank our Father through Jesus Christ, our Lord, for the
abundance of Spiritual Gifts that He has bestowed upon us from the day
of our conversion.
even so, we do seek that more excellent way.
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personally, we have to thank our Father through Jesus Christ, our Lord, for the
abundance of Spiritual Gifts that He has bestowed upon us from the day
of our conversion.
even so, we do seek that more excellent way.
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[TD]Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?[/TD]
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[TD]1Co 12:31[/TD]
[TD]But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
personally, we have to thank our Father through Jesus Christ, our Lord, for the
abundance of Spiritual Gifts that He has bestowed upon us from the day
of our conversion.
even so, we do seek that more excellent way.
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personally, we have to thank our Father through Jesus Christ, our Lord, for the
abundance of Spiritual Gifts that He has bestowed upon us from the day
of our conversion.
even so, we do seek that more excellent way.
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Many times it is what you are very good at, or a passion you have in your heart. But don't be discouraged if you do find your gift. There can be years of preparation for you to be ready to use even a gift God has given you. My daughters had been molested by their father; one of them wants to be a counselor so she can help other girls/women. But she has had much to recover from, a long journey, and she sees how necessary it is to go through the process before she can handle helping others.
All good things are gifts from God.
We are to be thankful, and not neglect the use of all that we are given.
There is a difference between the skills that we have acquired/ the talents that we were bestowed with at birth,
and the spiritual gifts mentioned in the Word.
The Holy Spirit gives us NEW gifts! Not just repackages or re-applies what we already had.
The spiritual gifts come from prayer, fasting, and the laying of hands.
The fruit of the Spirit are the product of a Spirit filled life, but are not the same as spiritual gifts.
If you seek to do the will of the Father here on earth, then you WILL be granted spiritual gifts.
If you do not seek, then you will not find. And if you seek for wrong motive, then you will only find troubles and trials.
The gifts will cease when God will be present with us, because there will be no need for them. Until He returns, the gifts are given and useful. I feel sorry for those who preach the cessation of the sign gifts, as their lack of faith proves themselves right in their own eyes.
If you do not know what your spiritual gift is, don't cheat yourself by claiming it is something that you have always had, or something that you acquired before salvation,
Don't seek to recognize it, but seek to obtain it!!!
No one has been spiritual gift without recognizing it (however some neglect to use what has been given).
If you seek to glorify God and further His Kingdom and uplift His Body (the Church),
then pray with fasting, and ask the deacons and elders to pray over you.
God does not deny good gifts to His Children.
Live with expectation!
Expectation of His power and providence,
and expectation of His Return!
We are to be thankful, and not neglect the use of all that we are given.
There is a difference between the skills that we have acquired/ the talents that we were bestowed with at birth,
and the spiritual gifts mentioned in the Word.
The Holy Spirit gives us NEW gifts! Not just repackages or re-applies what we already had.
The spiritual gifts come from prayer, fasting, and the laying of hands.
The fruit of the Spirit are the product of a Spirit filled life, but are not the same as spiritual gifts.
If you seek to do the will of the Father here on earth, then you WILL be granted spiritual gifts.
If you do not seek, then you will not find. And if you seek for wrong motive, then you will only find troubles and trials.
The gifts will cease when God will be present with us, because there will be no need for them. Until He returns, the gifts are given and useful. I feel sorry for those who preach the cessation of the sign gifts, as their lack of faith proves themselves right in their own eyes.
If you do not know what your spiritual gift is, don't cheat yourself by claiming it is something that you have always had, or something that you acquired before salvation,
Don't seek to recognize it, but seek to obtain it!!!
No one has been spiritual gift without recognizing it (however some neglect to use what has been given).
If you seek to glorify God and further His Kingdom and uplift His Body (the Church),
then pray with fasting, and ask the deacons and elders to pray over you.
God does not deny good gifts to His Children.
Live with expectation!
Expectation of His power and providence,
and expectation of His Return!
You are way off the mark. Gods authority is revealed through His word by the Holy Spirit. The Apostles and disciples were endued with certain gifts which were a sign of their authority from Christ in the gospel they brought. With the completion of the bible it was no longer necessary for authority to be confirmed in miracles.
The catholic church is responsible for the new age gifts, signs and miracles. Shrines and relics reported to have power to heal or make prosperous has its roots in the Roman catholic church.
Our witness today is the saint of God, the word of God and the Holy Spirit of God. Our testimony, the unchanging word of God and the convincing of the Holy Spirit in the heart of the hearer.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The catholic church is responsible for the new age gifts, signs and miracles. Shrines and relics reported to have power to heal or make prosperous has its roots in the Roman catholic church.
Our witness today is the saint of God, the word of God and the Holy Spirit of God. Our testimony, the unchanging word of God and the convincing of the Holy Spirit in the heart of the hearer.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I guess the only question I would have for those that believe that spiritual gifts no longer exist would be this...
How do you explain those that have witnessed these gifts, especially those that have bore those gifts through their obedience to God through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ?
Before you present your answers, I will warn you of this one thing.
Mark:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
How do you explain those that have witnessed these gifts, especially those that have bore those gifts through their obedience to God through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ?
Before you present your answers, I will warn you of this one thing.
Mark:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
You can't see the events where people received the Spirit without the presence of apostles because your eyes are veiled. It's the only explanation, because Ananias was no apostle, but Paul received the baptism with the laying on of Ananias' hands. How do you explain the healings and such that take place today, the real ones. But I don't have time to repeat what the Scripture already says and shows. I'll let The_Highway and Markum talk to you.
Sorry to repeat, Roger, but you put yourself in checkmate by questioning God's need for a second witness outside the Bible. You trapped yourself by asking for God's opinion on the matter. Jesus sent His disciples to be witnesses, not missionaries or Christians, of Him. Due to this, they had power. Therefore, if we are sent by the same Jesus today, then we are sent not to be missionaries or Christians (primarily) but witnesses of Him, and that with power and signs and all the gifts of the Spirit.
There are three witnesses in Heaven and three on earth. (1Jn. 5.) If you wish to make your comfort zone the truth and make the Bible the only witness, then you will have no power at all to live the Life nor impart the Life (supernaturally) to others. If you don't believe the Bible, the Word, and Testimony needs the witness of Jesus' power or supernatural nature, then you are your own witness. The Bible bears no witness. Because you don't understand or believe the Scriptures, like the Sadducees, you cannot possibly experience God's power; therefore, your cause for Christ is powerless, because Christ is powerful.
There are three witnesses in Heaven and three on earth. (1Jn. 5.) If you wish to make your comfort zone the truth and make the Bible the only witness, then you will have no power at all to live the Life nor impart the Life (supernaturally) to others. If you don't believe the Bible, the Word, and Testimony needs the witness of Jesus' power or supernatural nature, then you are your own witness. The Bible bears no witness. Because you don't understand or believe the Scriptures, like the Sadducees, you cannot possibly experience God's power; therefore, your cause for Christ is powerless, because Christ is powerful.