Spiritual Warfare - By Bryan Denlinger

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ChosenbyHim

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Now Homwardbound, this is where it gets very serious. Although it already was serious enough.

I am going to share an excerpt from Brother Terry Watkin's article exposing the Message bible.

Here is the excerpt:


The Message Bible:
A Mystic Mess

By Dr. Terry Watkins


[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]º CORRUPT COMMUNICATION º[/SIZE][HR][/HR]
The Bible admonishes us to, "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth. . ." (Eph. 4:29) The Mess routinely speaks "corrupt communication" with some curse words in its pages.
"Damn" appears many times in precarious settings.

Go, curse Jacob for me; go, damn Israel." Num 23:7
Break their miserable hearts! Damn their eyes! Lam 3:65
Take care of that damned woman 2 Kings 9:34
I'd rather be damned by God than drink this! 1 Chron. 11:19
We're damned if we do and damned if we don't Jer 8:14

you know perfectly well that the Spirit of God would never prompt anyone to say "Jesus be damned!" 1 Cor. 12:3

Nothing seems sacred to the Mess, even descending to using the "G.D." word.
Here is GOD's Message to the prophets, the preachers who lie to my people: "For as long as they're well paid and well fed, the prophets preach, 'Isn't life wonderful! Peace to all!' But if you don't pay up and jump on their bandwagon, their 'God bless you' turns into 'God damn you.'
Micah 3:5

Notice how different the words of God's tender compassion found in the King James Bible in Micah 3:5:
Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him. Micah 3:5, KJB




[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]º SEX, SEX, AND MORE SEX º[/SIZE][HR][/HR]
The Bible says in Psalm 119:140, "Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it."

Note. The following verses from The Message include vulgar and offensive language. I recognize the sensitivity of my readers, but The Message is heavily marketed towards the youth by scores of Contemporary Christian Musicians, including CDs of verses from The Message. The only accurate way to expose this filth is to show the verses. Remember this is a "Bible" recommended by tons of prominent Christian leaders!

When the King James Bible describes intimate relationships and immoral behavior there remains a careful wholesome tone in its wording. It doesn’t sugar-coat the sin, but it doesn’t smell with the stench of the world. Contrary to the pure Words of God – the Mess wallows in the sewers of smut. The Mess smells of "sex, sex, and more sex."
. . . Sniffing the wind for the slightest scent of sex.

Who could possibly corral her! On the hunt for sex, sex, and more sex-- insatiable, indiscriminate, promiscuous.
Jeremiah 2:24


The word "sex" appears 199 times, (remember the "lord" appears only 71 times). The Mess contains enough "sex" to satisfy even Hugh Hefner. There is sexual intercourse (Jdg 21:11); sex goddess (2Ki 21:7); sexual predators (Job 24:15); sexual excesses (Job 36:14); sex shrines (Jer 5:7); sluttish sex (Eze 16:24); sex orgies (Eze 16:26); sexual prowess (Eze 23:21); obsessive sex (Eze 23:49); filthy sex (Eze 24:13); loose sex (Hos 4:2); drunk on sex (Hos 4:12); sex-worship (Hos 4:19); popular sex gods (Hos 11:2); lewd sex-worship (Hos 13:1); sacred sex-and-power centers (Mic 5:14); sexual orgies (Hab 2:15); sexually confused (Rom 1:27); sexual transmission (Rom 9:8); scandalous sex (1Co 5:1); sexually promiscuous (1Co 5:9); sexual sins (1Co 6:18); sexual relations (1Co 7:1); sexual drives (1Co 7:2); sexually tortured life (1Co 7:9); sexual disorder (2Co 12:21); cheap sex (Gal 5:19); sexual obsession (Eph 4:19); casual and illicit sex (Heb 13:4); sexual filth (2Pe 2:7); sexual rack and ruin (Jud 1:7); dirty sex (Jud 1:8); and sex peddlers (Rev 21:8). Note: most of the above phrases occur several times.

The Mess routinely uses crude words such as "genitals," "semen", "slut," and "streetwalking whore."


Saul exploded in anger at Jonathan: "You son of a slut!. . .
1 Samuel 20:30


I'll expose her genitals to the public. . .
Hosea 2:10


. . . Drunk on sex, they can't find their way home. They've replaced their God with their genitals.
Hosea 4:12

"Look around at the hills. Where have you not had sex? You've camped out like hunters stalking deer. You've solicited many lover-gods, Like a streetwalking whore chasing after other gods.
Jeremiah 3:2

. . .. After all, they're involved in this as well as you; if you don't come to terms, they'll be eating their own turds and drinking their own pee right along with you."
2 Kings 18:27


Jeremiah 8:13 even quotes a Holy God calling Israel "a slut." Notice the wording of the King James Bible.

GOD's Message: "Ask around. Survey the godless nations. Has anyone heard the likes of this? Virgin Israel has become a slut! Jeremiah 18:13


Therefore thus saith the LORD; Ask ye now among the heathen, who hath heard such things: the virgin of Israel hath done a very horrible thing.
Jeremiah 18:13 King James Bible


In Ezekiel 16:24, The Mess spews the most vulgar and crude language ever recorded in a mainstream Bible:

At every major intersection you built your bold brothels and exposed your sluttish sex, spreading your legs for everyone who passed by.
Ezekiel 16:24


While "sex, sex, and more sex" floods the Mess, the sodomites disappear. The "men" of Sodom in Genesis 13:13 are now "people of Sodom." The Mess completely pardons the "sodomites," replacing them with the inoffensive and meaningless "sacred prostitutes."




[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]º HELL-RAISERS, HELLHOUNDS and HELLHOLES º[/SIZE][HR][/HR]Like this "present evil world," The Mess enjoys perverting and redefining the word "hell."
a gang of local hell-raisers all Judg 19:22
hell-raisers Judg 20:13
you hellhound! 2 Sam. 16:7
a fool hellbent on folly. Pro 17:12
rebels to rot in hell. Psa 68:6
I'm camped on the edge of hell. Psa 88:3
"Let's go out and raise some hell. Pro 1:11
We've been to hell and back. Lam 3:47
hellholes. Zep 1:9
hellbent on destruction, 1 Cor. 1:18
"To hell with your money! Act 8:20
And then all hell broke loose Rom 1:29

And there’s a lot more filth in The Mess. . . This tract contains just a small drop in the mystic and malignant poison infecting the Mystic Message. I’m reminded of Ronald Reagan’s eloquent critique of the Good News Bible during his famous radio address on September 6. 1977. Comparing the Good New Bible to the King James Bible, President Reagan closed with these insightful words:


“The sponsors of the Good News version boast that their Bible is as readable as the daily paper – and so it is. But do readers of the daily news find themselves moved to wonder, "at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth"? Mr. Hanser [author of The Law and The Prophets] suggests that sadly the "tinkering & general horsing around with the sacred texts will no doubt continue" as pious drudges try to get it right.It will not dawn on them that it has already been gotten right.
This is Ronald Reagan. Thanks for listening.”[HR][/HR]

Now Homwardbound, after seeing what you just saw. After seeing how Eugene H. Peterson (author of the message bible) perverted the words of the Living God, are you now starting to see how very serious this Bible Version Issue is?

Are you beginning to see how much Satan hates the word of God? And how Satan wants to taint it and pervert it and corrupt it any way he sees how.

The message bible is a new age blasphemous satanic perversion that is ever to hit the market. And the only thing that Eugene Peterson's message bible perversion is good for is the dumpster.
 

homwardbound

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Oct 24, 2012
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#63
Now Homwardbound, this is where it gets very serious. Although it already was serious enough.

I am going to share an excerpt from Brother Terry Watkin's article exposing the Message bible.

Here is the excerpt:


The Message Bible:
A Mystic Mess

By Dr. Terry Watkins


[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]º CORRUPT COMMUNICATION º[/SIZE][HR][/HR]
The Bible admonishes us to, "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth. . ." (Eph. 4:29) The Mess routinely speaks "corrupt communication" with some curse words in its pages.
"Damn" appears many times in precarious settings.

Go, curse Jacob for me; go, damn Israel." Num 23:7
Break their miserable hearts! Damn their eyes! Lam 3:65
Take care of that damned woman 2 Kings 9:34
I'd rather be damned by God than drink this! 1 Chron. 11:19
We're damned if we do and damned if we don't Jer 8:14

you know perfectly well that the Spirit of God would never prompt anyone to say "Jesus be damned!" 1 Cor. 12:3

Nothing seems sacred to the Mess, even descending to using the "G.D." word.
Here is GOD's Message to the prophets, the preachers who lie to my people: "For as long as they're well paid and well fed, the prophets preach, 'Isn't life wonderful! Peace to all!' But if you don't pay up and jump on their bandwagon, their 'God bless you' turns into 'God damn you.'
Micah 3:5

Notice how different the words of God's tender compassion found in the King James Bible in Micah 3:5:
Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him. Micah 3:5, KJB




[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]º SEX, SEX, AND MORE SEX º[/SIZE][HR][/HR]
The Bible says in Psalm 119:140, "Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it."

Note. The following verses from The Message include vulgar and offensive language. I recognize the sensitivity of my readers, but The Message is heavily marketed towards the youth by scores of Contemporary Christian Musicians, including CDs of verses from The Message. The only accurate way to expose this filth is to show the verses. Remember this is a "Bible" recommended by tons of prominent Christian leaders!

When the King James Bible describes intimate relationships and immoral behavior there remains a careful wholesome tone in its wording. It doesn’t sugar-coat the sin, but it doesn’t smell with the stench of the world. Contrary to the pure Words of God – the Mess wallows in the sewers of smut. The Mess smells of "sex, sex, and more sex."
. . . Sniffing the wind for the slightest scent of sex.

Who could possibly corral her! On the hunt for sex, sex, and more sex-- insatiable, indiscriminate, promiscuous.
Jeremiah 2:24


The word "sex" appears 199 times, (remember the "lord" appears only 71 times). The Mess contains enough "sex" to satisfy even Hugh Hefner. There is sexual intercourse (Jdg 21:11); sex goddess (2Ki 21:7); sexual predators (Job 24:15); sexual excesses (Job 36:14); sex shrines (Jer 5:7); sluttish sex (Eze 16:24); sex orgies (Eze 16:26); sexual prowess (Eze 23:21); obsessive sex (Eze 23:49); filthy sex (Eze 24:13); loose sex (Hos 4:2); drunk on sex (Hos 4:12); sex-worship (Hos 4:19); popular sex gods (Hos 11:2); lewd sex-worship (Hos 13:1); sacred sex-and-power centers (Mic 5:14); sexual orgies (Hab 2:15); sexually confused (Rom 1:27); sexual transmission (Rom 9:8); scandalous sex (1Co 5:1); sexually promiscuous (1Co 5:9); sexual sins (1Co 6:18); sexual relations (1Co 7:1); sexual drives (1Co 7:2); sexually tortured life (1Co 7:9); sexual disorder (2Co 12:21); cheap sex (Gal 5:19); sexual obsession (Eph 4:19); casual and illicit sex (Heb 13:4); sexual filth (2Pe 2:7); sexual rack and ruin (Jud 1:7); dirty sex (Jud 1:8); and sex peddlers (Rev 21:8). Note: most of the above phrases occur several times.

The Mess routinely uses crude words such as "genitals," "semen", "slut," and "streetwalking whore."


Saul exploded in anger at Jonathan: "You son of a slut!. . .
1 Samuel 20:30


I'll expose her genitals to the public. . .
Hosea 2:10


. . . Drunk on sex, they can't find their way home. They've replaced their God with their genitals.
Hosea 4:12

"Look around at the hills. Where have you not had sex? You've camped out like hunters stalking deer. You've solicited many lover-gods, Like a streetwalking whore chasing after other gods.
Jeremiah 3:2

. . .. After all, they're involved in this as well as you; if you don't come to terms, they'll be eating their own turds and drinking their own pee right along with you."
2 Kings 18:27


Jeremiah 8:13 even quotes a Holy God calling Israel "a slut." Notice the wording of the King James Bible.

GOD's Message: "Ask around. Survey the godless nations. Has anyone heard the likes of this? Virgin Israel has become a slut! Jeremiah 18:13


Therefore thus saith the LORD; Ask ye now among the heathen, who hath heard such things: the virgin of Israel hath done a very horrible thing.
Jeremiah 18:13 King James Bible


In Ezekiel 16:24, The Mess spews the most vulgar and crude language ever recorded in a mainstream Bible:

At every major intersection you built your bold brothels and exposed your sluttish sex, spreading your legs for everyone who passed by.
Ezekiel 16:24


While "sex, sex, and more sex" floods the Mess, the sodomites disappear. The "men" of Sodom in Genesis 13:13 are now "people of Sodom." The Mess completely pardons the "sodomites," replacing them with the inoffensive and meaningless "sacred prostitutes."




[HR][/HR][SIZE=+2]º HELL-RAISERS, HELLHOUNDS and HELLHOLES º[/SIZE][HR][/HR]Like this "present evil world," The Mess enjoys perverting and redefining the word "hell."
a gang of local hell-raisers all Judg 19:22
hell-raisers Judg 20:13
you hellhound! 2 Sam. 16:7
a fool hellbent on folly. Pro 17:12
rebels to rot in hell. Psa 68:6
I'm camped on the edge of hell. Psa 88:3
"Let's go out and raise some hell. Pro 1:11
We've been to hell and back. Lam 3:47
hellholes. Zep 1:9
hellbent on destruction, 1 Cor. 1:18
"To hell with your money! Act 8:20
And then all hell broke loose Rom 1:29

And there’s a lot more filth in The Mess. . . This tract contains just a small drop in the mystic and malignant poison infecting the Mystic Message. I’m reminded of Ronald Reagan’s eloquent critique of the Good News Bible during his famous radio address on September 6. 1977. Comparing the Good New Bible to the King James Bible, President Reagan closed with these insightful words:


“The sponsors of the Good News version boast that their Bible is as readable as the daily paper – and so it is. But do readers of the daily news find themselves moved to wonder, "at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth"? Mr. Hanser [author of The Law and The Prophets] suggests that sadly the "tinkering & general horsing around with the sacred texts will no doubt continue" as pious drudges try to get it right.It will not dawn on them that it has already been gotten right.
This is Ronald Reagan. Thanks for listening.”[HR][/HR]

Now Homwardbound, after seeing what you just saw. After seeing how Eugene H. Peterson (author of the message bible) perverted the words of the Living God, are you now starting to see how very serious this Bible Version Issue is?

Are you beginning to see how much Satan hates the word of God? And how Satan wants to taint it and pervert it and corrupt it any way he sees how.

The message bible is a new age blasphemous satanic perversion that is ever to hit the market. And the only thing that Eugene Peterson's message bible perversion is good for is the dumpster.
You know, and you might agree on this, I daily am by my free choice am co-crucified with Christ, as in dead to self as Paul admonished he did. You know as he did this each day the self went deeper and deeper into death, and deeper and deeper Paul saw the new life that God gave him to the point
Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

So no matter which way you , I or anyone slices, dices, or cubes it, God is the winner and this was not derived off of the KJV only, it was given to us directly by God for those that believe, die to the self daily, co-crucifixion deeper and deeper and thus see clearer and clearer, no need for the Bible that has been miss translated by man that is pointed out even in the KJV
Tell me is the word Church a true translation in the KJV or any version?
What does the Word Church mean? And what was the word used before this translation Church took its place?
Which h is accepted all over the world today and is not a true translation, again the word Church is not a true translation and is used in the KJV as well, so it is not God's final authority as you continue to be adamant about
God period is my savior, through Christ and the cross where I am dead to self and alive to God through being dead to self, and the KJV did not do this, God did as a free gift to all that believe God is.
 

ChosenbyHim

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You know, and you might agree on this, I daily am by my free choice am co-crucified with Christ, as in dead to self as Paul admonished he did. You know as he did this each day the self went deeper and deeper into death, and deeper and deeper Paul saw the new life that God gave him to the point
Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

So no matter which way you , I or anyone slices, dices, or cubes it, God is the winner and this was not derived off of the KJV only, it was given to us directly by God for those that believe, die to the self daily, co-crucifixion deeper and deeper and thus see clearer and clearer, no need for the Bible that has been miss translated by man that is pointed out even in the KJV
Tell me is the word Church a true translation in the KJV or any version?
What does the Word Church mean? And what was the word used before this translation Church took its place?
Which h is accepted all over the world today and is not a true translation, again the word Church is not a true translation and is used in the KJV as well, so it is not God's final authority as you continue to be adamant about
God period is my savior, through Christ and the cross where I am dead to self and alive to God through being dead to self, and the KJV did not do this, God did as a free gift to all that believe God is.
How is church a mistranslation Homwardbound?

The Church is not a building. The Church is the Body of true Born again believers. That is what the Church is. I believe when Paul wrote to the Church at Corinth, that he was writing to the body of Believers who were abiding in Corinth.

Again, Homwardbound, the church is not some building or temple. We are the Church. We are the Body of Christ.

The Authorized Version is God's Authority. There has to be a perfect Final Written Authority on this Earth Homwardbound. God's true word cannot have any errors or mistranslations in it.

God's true word is perfect, pure, and inerrant.
 

homwardbound

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How is church a mistranslation Homwardbound?

The Church is not a building. The Church is the Body of true Born again believers. That is what the Church is. I believe when Paul wrote to the Church at Corinth, that he was writing to the body of Believers who were abiding in Corinth.

Again, Homwardbound, the church is not some building or temple. We are the Church. We are the Body of Christ.

The Authorized Version is God's Authority. There has to be a perfect Final Written Authority on this Earth Homwardbound. God's true word cannot have any errors or mistranslations in it.

God's true word is perfect, pure, and inerrant.
Yep, Church means building, and God does not live in buildings, in people, the word that was translated was Ecclesia, which means called out ones. And Stephan was stoned to death by the clergy of that day for saying God does not live in buildings.
The word highly accepted today and has upset you, just as you have upset all others here that do not adhere to KJV as final Authority. Would you go to your death, if you were going to be stoned to death, if truly so as Stephan did in front of Saul, before he was Paul, I admire your conviction.
Now truth can't be denied, and as you like to use others findings, then here you go about mistranslations
THE CORRECT MEANING OF "CHURCH" AND "ECCLESIA"
I am by no means trying to get you and otr anyone else angry, but here it is Church and Ecclesia are two different meanings, just mixed together as one, just like Law and Grace, and water and Spirit are all mixed together as if they mix, when they don't. And by the mix, we have flesh and Spirit mix, which does not mix either
Especially since God is a Spirit and can only be worshipped in Spirit. Now whose Spirit the resurrected Christ or self?
 

homwardbound

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So God does not speak today, since you say there has to be a written final authority, You do not hear God speak to you? Do9es God not live in you to teach you from error.
You do believe the truth will set you free correct?
So then I ask you are you in bondage?
If you are in bondage then you are not free?
If not free then there might be error in your truth, and might need to rethink your truth if you are in bondage
God plain and simply just loves you and we have a wonderful tool the Bible, written to us, with man's hands all over it. After Christ's resurrection and even before he went to the cross, a new and better covenant was at hand, and the religious leaders lost control of what they had, over the people. Go and read Acts about Stephan, and how man does not want to let go of control.
God came to earth to show us the way through him through his Son Christ, and this is Love to the fullest, not doctrine.
In this love, the resurrection of Christ is Spirit, and God is a Spirit and can only be worshipped this way John 4:23-24.
We are to daily co-crucify with Christ, no matter what version one might read, do you agree with this to die daily to ones flesh and by this we can see the resurrected life that we are translated into, by the operation of God the Father, read Romans 6:1-11, if you do not it is right there in the KJV. And one can't attained without giving up self.
Are you seeing this, I pray, and ask yourself are you giving up self over this issue of the KJV.
I know you have made many ties in your community of Believers, and that weighs a toll, between the flesh and Spirit warefare, that are at war as you know.
I see you want to know God, and God knows this too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, so maybe go personally to God and you.
Paul did not confer with flesh and blood, did he? He could have, and did not even know Jesus in the flesh, and yet the apostles shook hands with Paul when they perceived he had the truth, and Paul went to us the Gentiles and James and them stayed with the first Chosen.
No matter what Faith initiates us to God, Faith in God, and God draws us to know him, and then it is up to us to believe God or not.
All in love to you from God
 

ChosenbyHim

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Yep, Church means building, and God does not live in buildings, in people, the word that was translated was Ecclesia, which means called out ones. And Stephan was stoned to death by the clergy of that day for saying God does not live in buildings.
The word highly accepted today and has upset you, just as you have upset all others here that do not adhere to KJV as final Authority. Would you go to your death, if you were going to be stoned to death, if truly so as Stephan did in front of Saul, before he was Paul, I admire your conviction.
Now truth can't be denied, and as you like to use others findings, then here you go about mistranslations
THE CORRECT MEANING OF "CHURCH" AND "ECCLESIA"
I am by no means trying to get you and otr anyone else angry, but here it is Church and Ecclesia are two different meanings, just mixed together as one, just like Law and Grace, and water and Spirit are all mixed together as if they mix, when they don't. And by the mix, we have flesh and Spirit mix, which does not mix either
Especially since God is a Spirit and can only be worshipped in Spirit. Now whose Spirit the resurrected Christ or self?
No Homwardbound, church does not mean building. Church means the body of born again believers.Let's say you met up with a Christian brother at a coffee shop and sat down to have some fellowship and Bible study over a cup of coffee. You do realize that you and that friend of yours would be having church, right?

The modern concept of church today is so unbiliblical. People have strayed so far away from the Scriptures that they can't understand even the basic doctrines of Scripture. the Church has never been a building or a temple, it has always been the gathering and assembly of believers. It has always been the Body of Christ.

Bryan Denlinger said it really well one time, and that is this: We are supposed to be in church everyday.

And we are. We are in church every day. Not just on Sunday.
So when a modern Christian says: "Well I wouldn't do that in church..." Well then don't do it at all because we Christians are in church everyday.

Yes God can only be worshipped in spirit and in truth.

Whether people submit to the Final Authority of the King James Bible does not change the fact that the King James Bible is the 100% perfect, pure and infallible, and inerrant word of God.

Okay, I will check out that link you shared. But it is not going to convince me otherwise. Because I know that the word of God is perfect and inerrant.

There are no errors in the Authorized Version. Absolutely none.
 

homwardbound

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No Homwardbound, church does not mean building. Church means the body of born again believers.Let's say you met up with a Christian brother at a coffee shop and sat down to have some fellowship and Bible study over a cup of coffee. You do realize that you and that friend of yours would be having church, right?

The modern concept of church today is so unbiliblical. People have strayed so far away from the Scriptures that they can't understand even the basic doctrines of Scripture. the Church has never been a building or a temple, it has always been the gathering and assembly of believers. It has always been the Body of Christ.

Bryan Denlinger said it really well one time, and that is this: We are supposed to be in church everyday.

And we are. We are in church every day. Not just on Sunday.
So when a modern Christian says: "Well I wouldn't do that in church..." Well then don't do it at all because we Christians are in church everyday.

Yes God can only be worshipped in spirit and in truth.

Whether people submit to the Final Authority of the King James Bible does not change the fact that the King James Bible is the 100% perfect, pure and infallible, and inerrant word of God.

Okay, I will check out that link you shared. But it is not going to convince me otherwise. Because I know that the word of God is perfect and inerrant.

There are no errors in the Authorized Version. Absolutely none.
Do a look up of the word Church in Greek and then do a look up of the Ecclesia in Greek, and see literally what the words mean
Again you can believe whatever you wish, free choice, and so can I and I am not posting to cause any derailment, we all are here to share what we think as truth to each other and you are set on KJV and that is okay, and I have given you my truth and it is quite fine to not see what I see and quite for me not to see what you see, whether I do or you do see what each other sees. It is not worth any further discussion to cause any flesh garbage for this is what flesh loves to do is disagree
So I am proposing to let this whole thing go and not argue over things that are not eternal
[h=3]Romans 14[/h]King James Version (KJV)

14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

It goes on and I know the context is about food since that was the problem at the time this was written by Paul, yet it goes much deeper to not argue please, okay you believe in only the KJV and I don't, can we say WE love each other still because of God?
Hope so, Bye for now and if we never meet here on earth, hope to and will one day in Heaven for God will never leave us or forsake us
Thanks for many posts and done in love, so can you agree let's drop this and maybe discuss the death of, the burial of and the resurrection of Christ, where all life forever is all the power and glory unto the Father, Thanks
Homwardbound