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True...most meanings and connotations surrounding words actually are formed in our minds and we have preconceived thoughts about what they mean - depending on our church backgrounds, teachings and traditions.
When we hear something different our minds go "tilt". We can have a stronghold of thoughts in our minds associated with these words are thus we can get ourselves offended when we hear something differently then what we were taught.
Jesus encountered this mindset constantly from both the religious Pharisees and from His own disciples.
So, what is the answer? To go around and call people wolves and heretics because of a difference of opinion - or is it to listen to what is actually being said and then have respect for others while showing what is believed by the scriptures and relying on the Holy Spirit.
This will allow an environment where spiritually abused Christians can actually grow in the Lord as they listen to the Holy Spirit within them reveal Jesus and the things of God to them.
When we hear something different our minds go "tilt". We can have a stronghold of thoughts in our minds associated with these words are thus we can get ourselves offended when we hear something differently then what we were taught.
Jesus encountered this mindset constantly from both the religious Pharisees and from His own disciples.
So, what is the answer? To go around and call people wolves and heretics because of a difference of opinion - or is it to listen to what is actually being said and then have respect for others while showing what is believed by the scriptures and relying on the Holy Spirit.
This will allow an environment where spiritually abused Christians can actually grow in the Lord as they listen to the Holy Spirit within them reveal Jesus and the things of God to them.
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Abuse is not a toy to be played with, to try and figure out how to play with, to try to fix. Please, please stop this thread.
There really is childhood abuse. But if you don't know how to treat it, don't turn it into a class project to build. The result has already started and this is only the first page. So far, we have an article from a law firm, people who think they were abused, and more who think everyone else is an abuser.
This is not a game! Stop! For God's sake and for the sake of all those who have truly been abused in many forms and many ways, just stop.
There really is childhood abuse. But if you don't know how to treat it, don't turn it into a class project to build. The result has already started and this is only the first page. So far, we have an article from a law firm, people who think they were abused, and more who think everyone else is an abuser.
This is not a game! Stop! For God's sake and for the sake of all those who have truly been abused in many forms and many ways, just stop.
The real trigger for x-legalists is righteousness, or law, or being blameless.
If a believer has the same beliefs, 100% same words but mentions these biblical
issues, they are open meat for the picking.
It suggests to me an abused history of either conforming to strict social rules, way
beyond scripture that defined their behaviour and personalities for decades.
And what seems to break the spell, is being rejected from the group through some
family or emotional trauma.
And a wolf never becomes a sheep. A wolf is trained to destroy, to pull apart, to
dismantle another and leave them dead. The key signs are personal attacks, aimed
to hurt or discourage, not make peace or empathise, just destroy.
Whole church movements have had this spirit. One openly declared that if you did
not agree with the approach of the leader, you should leave, loyalty was everything.
This is so different from getting alongside people, sharing your perspectives and seeing
how others view the world. It is not "stop" "wrong" "you cannot say".
It is though showing what scripture says, and being straightforward. The light is a very
bright place, and we need to dwell then, openly and honestly.
I wonder if people can admit their christian community background distorted their
view of life and they still have not recovered?
If a believer has the same beliefs, 100% same words but mentions these biblical
issues, they are open meat for the picking.
It suggests to me an abused history of either conforming to strict social rules, way
beyond scripture that defined their behaviour and personalities for decades.
And what seems to break the spell, is being rejected from the group through some
family or emotional trauma.
And a wolf never becomes a sheep. A wolf is trained to destroy, to pull apart, to
dismantle another and leave them dead. The key signs are personal attacks, aimed
to hurt or discourage, not make peace or empathise, just destroy.
Whole church movements have had this spirit. One openly declared that if you did
not agree with the approach of the leader, you should leave, loyalty was everything.
This is so different from getting alongside people, sharing your perspectives and seeing
how others view the world. It is not "stop" "wrong" "you cannot say".
It is though showing what scripture says, and being straightforward. The light is a very
bright place, and we need to dwell then, openly and honestly.
I wonder if people can admit their christian community background distorted their
view of life and they still have not recovered?
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I am sorry you feel that way.
No abuse isn't a toy or class project.
It is real and happens to a lot of people. I find more harm is keeping it in the dark than admiting it happens.
I definitely don't think we can fix it via forums. This thread is more to make people aware and more compassionate of others and their hurts. My 2nd post have helpline numbers in the US. The 1st was a link to a law firm but also gave links to British helplines.
I am sure other countries may have some also.
Like all threads, their will be some insightful post, some joking and some that make me ask "is this a troll or are they serious?"
No abuse isn't a toy or class project.
It is real and happens to a lot of people. I find more harm is keeping it in the dark than admiting it happens.
I definitely don't think we can fix it via forums. This thread is more to make people aware and more compassionate of others and their hurts. My 2nd post have helpline numbers in the US. The 1st was a link to a law firm but also gave links to British helplines.
I am sure other countries may have some also.
Like all threads, their will be some insightful post, some joking and some that make me ask "is this a troll or are they serious?"