"Super Duper" Christians - Cultists, Charismatics and Non-Denominational Christians
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Re: "Super Duper" Christians - Cultists, Charismatics and Non-Denominational Christi
I've caught something all right...I don't feel good
that makes me grouchy cause I don't like being sick
and if someone says I'm grouchy all the time, I'll meet you out back of the forum and show you what lifting weights has done for me...hahahahaha
I've caught something all right...I don't feel good
that makes me grouchy cause I don't like being sick
and if someone says I'm grouchy all the time, I'll meet you out back of the forum and show you what lifting weights has done for me...hahahahaha
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I don't think it is any one thing, or any of hundreds of doctrines. I don't think there is anything funny about it, I think our misunderstandings is almost universal in the protestant and catholic church.
I found nothing wrong for years, until someone pointed out to me that I saw discrepancies in scripture. If Christ was God, if God was eternal so His principles never changed, if we were to obey God whenever scripture told us something was so for all generations, then either I or scripture was wrong. Between God's knowledge and mine I felt there was no competition.
I had never been able to understand the OT, try as I would. I got as far as God wanting all the Canaanites wiped out and gave up. I needed help, and found it in professors who worked with the dead sea scrolls enough to understand that culture.
I studied the OT with eyes opened and related it all to the finished work of the NT.
God never disagrees with himself, and scripture is truth I found. Christ is God, and Christ finished and made perfect all of the symbolism of the OT.
It isn't that I am arrogantly saying "I am right" in my understanding and the churches are mostly wrong, but I am saying that scripture is right and most of the churches are wrong.
I don't think it is any one thing, or any of hundreds of doctrines. I don't think there is anything funny about it, I think our misunderstandings is almost universal in the protestant and catholic church.
I found nothing wrong for years, until someone pointed out to me that I saw discrepancies in scripture. If Christ was God, if God was eternal so His principles never changed, if we were to obey God whenever scripture told us something was so for all generations, then either I or scripture was wrong. Between God's knowledge and mine I felt there was no competition.
I had never been able to understand the OT, try as I would. I got as far as God wanting all the Canaanites wiped out and gave up. I needed help, and found it in professors who worked with the dead sea scrolls enough to understand that culture.
I studied the OT with eyes opened and related it all to the finished work of the NT.
God never disagrees with himself, and scripture is truth I found. Christ is God, and Christ finished and made perfect all of the symbolism of the OT.
It isn't that I am arrogantly saying "I am right" in my understanding and the churches are mostly wrong, but I am saying that scripture is right and most of the churches are wrong.
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I see... seem like you have run across quite a few of such believer haven't you RIJ? I haven't been saved for very long but when i think of a super duper Christian a true one that is they show love in their hearts in everything they do they never once saw themselves as better than anyone not even the lowest on the earth rather they place everyone else above them not because they are above them but because in their eyes it was never about them.
They also may in fact be closer to God and able to speak with him in far more depth than the average Christian but they never boast of it and don't keep this ability to themselves rather they try to teach others how to do the same always moving hearts closer to God never away from him as for salvation I don't think they view it as partly saved or not care far less about pointing the finger if a person is truly saved or not as they are more concerned with the heart of that person.
The thing is a true Christian is not well known in this day and age and many false believers are
I see... seem like you have run across quite a few of such believer haven't you RIJ? I haven't been saved for very long but when i think of a super duper Christian a true one that is they show love in their hearts in everything they do they never once saw themselves as better than anyone not even the lowest on the earth rather they place everyone else above them not because they are above them but because in their eyes it was never about them.
They also may in fact be closer to God and able to speak with him in far more depth than the average Christian but they never boast of it and don't keep this ability to themselves rather they try to teach others how to do the same always moving hearts closer to God never away from him as for salvation I don't think they view it as partly saved or not care far less about pointing the finger if a person is truly saved or not as they are more concerned with the heart of that person.
The thing is a true Christian is not well known in this day and age and many false believers are
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Joi? Honestly, I took the OP like you did after reading the first couple of paragraphs. I was going to stop there and then say something sarcastic. (I know! Hard to believe I'd go with sarcastic, isn't it?
) But then I kept reading.
I did fall in with the group who thinks there is water and then there is spirit baptism, and the sign of spiritual baptism was speaking in tongues. And me being brand new, I believed it hook, line and sinker. And, man! That sinker was heavy. I spent the first 4 years of my life with Christ thinking I wasn't saved because I cannot do tongues. Not even good at faking it. (I'm not even good at doing an accent. lol)
I'd rather not have other believers go through what I went through. It was four years wasted, and when I woke up from those four years, I was already an addict, so another two years to get out of the mess created by me thinking, "salvation = tongue talking, so I'm not saved."
Clear out the sand traps on the golf course. That's what I think the OP is about. I'm all for not adding traps to a hard walk.
Joi? Honestly, I took the OP like you did after reading the first couple of paragraphs. I was going to stop there and then say something sarcastic. (I know! Hard to believe I'd go with sarcastic, isn't it?
) But then I kept reading.I did fall in with the group who thinks there is water and then there is spirit baptism, and the sign of spiritual baptism was speaking in tongues. And me being brand new, I believed it hook, line and sinker. And, man! That sinker was heavy. I spent the first 4 years of my life with Christ thinking I wasn't saved because I cannot do tongues. Not even good at faking it. (I'm not even good at doing an accent. lol)
I'd rather not have other believers go through what I went through. It was four years wasted, and when I woke up from those four years, I was already an addict, so another two years to get out of the mess created by me thinking, "salvation = tongue talking, so I'm not saved."
Clear out the sand traps on the golf course. That's what I think the OP is about. I'm all for not adding traps to a hard walk.
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1Jn_2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
There really are some who are walking on earth as He walked. They get guff from the world. But, respect from those who know and experience the power given to them.
1Jn_2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
There really are some who are walking on earth as He walked. They get guff from the world. But, respect from those who know and experience the power given to them.
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I grew up in non denominational churches and in all my life I have never heard of anything remotely close to anything that you mentioned. All these beliefs sound nuts to me. Nor have I ever seen them talk about others not being equal. And I have never seen any of them think so much about divisions, raising controversy, or accusations as this thread. I have just seen them focus on the Lord instead as you say.
The bible and Christ says not to cause a separation among the churches. And it speaks of miracles and the ability to speak in tongues to those given the holy spirit. And to avoid people who speak against these kind of things it teaches.
Yes, I have found that generally the world fakes it because they think thats what they are supposed to do. But I would not advise somebody to dismiss the idea all together because others might have told the truth, the bible might actually be true, miracles might be real, and you miss it being closed minded.
I grew up in non denominational churches and in all my life I have never heard of anything remotely close to anything that you mentioned. All these beliefs sound nuts to me. Nor have I ever seen them talk about others not being equal. And I have never seen any of them think so much about divisions, raising controversy, or accusations as this thread. I have just seen them focus on the Lord instead as you say.
The bible and Christ says not to cause a separation among the churches. And it speaks of miracles and the ability to speak in tongues to those given the holy spirit. And to avoid people who speak against these kind of things it teaches.
Yes, I have found that generally the world fakes it because they think thats what they are supposed to do. But I would not advise somebody to dismiss the idea all together because others might have told the truth, the bible might actually be true, miracles might be real, and you miss it being closed minded.
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When i think about the term "super duper" Christian all i can think about is a person with light beaming on the top of their head while in the background benedictine monks are singing Gregorian chants, and throwing rose pedals at their feet lol...
When i think about the term "super duper" Christian all i can think about is a person with light beaming on the top of their head while in the background benedictine monks are singing Gregorian chants, and throwing rose pedals at their feet lol...