The “I Wills” of God

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whatever it is, I wish he would set it aside, It really is not helping him any.
he mentioned Mormon's and you mentioning helping, made me think of something that happened to me some time ago

About ten years ago I lived with a friend in a mobile home, one day I came home and was getting out of my car, I didn't know it but my wallet had fell out of my back pocket, about 30 minutes later two gentlemen dressed in suits riding bikes knocked on the door and said they found this wallet in front of the mobile home and ask if it belonged to anyone living in the home, I reached for my wallet in my pocket but it was gone, to my surprise that wallet they had found out in the street was mine, they didn't say a word just handed it to me and said your welcome.
 
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he seems to have a fascination with it or something, Its funny I wondered, he seemed to have left for a few days, and I was just thinking of him, now here he is again, he saw another opening. and as usual, instead of looking to the words to see if there be any truth, he could do nothing but slam it as another hypergrace thing.
Maybe I have a fascination of people who will quote from the biggest quacks instead of quoting a tried-and-true theologian, like from a commentary.

Which brings me to this,

Joseph smith was a false teacher & a heretic.

This is why we NEVER quote anything written by Joseph Smith, because nothing good can come from him, even if it sounds good & right.

It's a good practice to stay away from false teachers, because the Bible tells us to do so.

Paul Ellis is a teacher of hypergrace, or easy believism as we know it. He wrote several articles on his site about it.

https://escapetoreality.org/category/hyper-grace/

Ellis also teaches the Prosperity Doctrine.

Since this is true because he confesses it, why is it ok to post what one heretic says, & not the other?
 
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he mentioned Mormon's and you mentioning helping, made me think of something that happened to me some time ago

About ten years ago I lived with a friend in a mobile home, one day I came home and was getting out of my car, I didn't know it but my wallet had fell out of my back pocket, about 30 minutes later two gentlemen dressed in suits riding bikes knocked on the door and said they found this wallet in front of the mobile home and ask if it belonged to anyone living in the home, I reached for my wallet in my pocket but it was gone, to my surprise that wallet they had found out in the street was mine, they didn't say a word just handed it to me and said your welcome.

imagine if for some preconcieved notion you had, you did not answer the door Because of the way they were dressed, or because they rode in on bikes..
 
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Maybe I have a fascination of people who will quote from the biggest quacks instead of quoting a tried-and-true theologian, like from a commentary.

Which brings me to this,

Joseph smith was a false teacher & a heretic.

This is why we NEVER quote anything written by Joseph Smith, because nothing good can come from him, even if it sounds good & right.

It's a good practice to stay away from false teachers, because the Bible tells us to do so.

Paul Ellis is a teacher of hypergrace, or easy believism as we know it. He wrote several articles on his site about it.

https://escapetoreality.org/category/hyper-grace/

Ellis also teaches the Prosperity Doctrine.

Since this is true because he confesses it, why is it ok to post what one heretic says, & not the other?
The bible also teaches that all things are in God's tool box, the second you think you can't learn from a person like joseph smith is the day God uses him to show you something,
 
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Maybe I have a fascination of people who will quote from the biggest quacks instead of quoting a tried-and-true theologian, like from a commentary.

Which brings me to this,

Joseph smith was a false teacher & a heretic.

This is why we NEVER quote anything written by Joseph Smith, because nothing good can come from him, even if it sounds good & right.

It's a good practice to stay away from false teachers, because the Bible tells us to do so.

Paul Ellis is a teacher of hypergrace, or easy believism as we know it. He wrote several articles on his site about it.

https://escapetoreality.org/category/hyper-grace/

Ellis also teaches the Prosperity Doctrine.

Since this is true because he confesses it, why is it ok to post what one heretic says, & not the other?

Even if you had a valid point it is lost in your war and attitude,

Everyone here knows you went after the posting and did not even contemplate what was actually in the post. but went on a witch hunt to see if what you thought was true or not. (IE You went after somethign you could use as amminution)

If you did not agree, All you had to do was show scripturally where the person God it wrong, But no, You had to attack it as hypergrace or whatever, which means anything you say concerning this thread is of no value,, you destroyed your own argument by the way you entered based on your hate of hypergrace.
 
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The bible also teaches that all things are in God's tool box, the second you think you can't learn from a person like joseph smith is the day God uses him to show you something,
Boy, that's new to me. You'll have to quote chapter & verse on that one.;):rolleyes:
 
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Even if you had a valid point it is lost in your war and attitude,

Everyone here knows you went after the posting and did not even contemplate what was actually in the post. but went on a witch hunt to see if what you thought was true or not. (IE You went after somethign you could use as amminution)

If you did not agree, All you had to do was show scripturally where the person God it wrong, But no, You had to attack it as hypergrace or whatever, which means anything you say concerning this thread is of no value,, you destroyed your own argument by the way you entered based on your hate of hypergrace.
So, you think as long as a heretic says something good we can trust it, T H E N say what I said was wrong simply because I had the wrong attitude, & I'm not a heretic?

Sorry, ole boy, but you can't have it both ways.:rolleyes:

Even if you had a valid point it is lost in your war and attitude,
I will, however, consider this, since no one else has experience on having a warring attitude like you.;)
 
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BeyondET

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imagine if for some preconcieved notion you had, you did not answer the door Because of the way they were dressed, or because they rode in on bikes..
No doubt brother, I would have never got my wallet back probably, God works in mysterious ways for sure. :)
 
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So, you think as long as a heretic says something good we can trust it, T H E N say what I said was wrong simply because I had the wrong attitude, & I'm not a heretic?

Sorry, ole boy, but you can't have it both ways.:rolleyes:

Thats your problem, if you think a person is a heretic, you discount all they say, Which means if anything they say is true, you have to discount that truth, Which means, if Gods truth is being taught by that person, it will be lost on you because you will never hear it, because a heretic believes in it.

I will, however, consider this, since no one else has experience on having a warring attitude like you.;)

Denial, You live in denial my friend.
 
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Boy, that's new to me. You'll have to quote chapter & verse on that one.;):rolleyes:
For consider your call, brethren; not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth, but God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong, God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, (1 Corinthians 1:26-28
 
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For consider your call, brethren; not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth, but God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong, God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, (1 Corinthians 1:26-28
The bible also teaches that all things are in God's tool box, the second you think you can't learn from a person like joseph smith is the day God uses him to show you something,
I don't see the connection between the two, because a heretic isn't saved.

The above scripture speaks of christians, not sinners.
 
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I don't see the connection between the two, because a heretic isn't saved.

The above scripture speaks of christians, not sinners.
Ahh now I don't think your a heretic my friend, I'm just saying God can use what ever he wishes to use to bring a message to anyone you chooses, do you think satan can stop God from doing that?
 
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Thats your problem, if you think a person is a heretic, you discount all they say, Which means if anything they say is true, you have to discount that truth, Which means, if Gods truth is being taught by that person, it will be lost on you because you will never hear it, because a heretic believes in it.



Denial, You live in denial my friend.

No, I live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.(Matt 4:4)


1 Corinthians 5:6

New American Standard Bible
Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?


Galatians 5

7You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8This persuasion did not come from Him who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough. 10I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who is disturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves.
 
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No, I live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.(Matt 4:4)


1 Corinthians 5:6

New American Standard Bible
Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?


Galatians 5

7You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8This persuasion did not come from Him who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough. 10I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who is disturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves.
Very well then the measure you use to measure others will be upon you. Isn't that what the bible says about judging others, we should be slow to speak quick to think in times of name calling.
 
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Very well then the measure you use to measure others will be upon you. Isn't that what the bible says about judging others, we should be slow to speak quick to think in times of name calling.

The Bible also exemplifies the fact we should study to show ourselves approved & search the scriptures daily to see if what people say are so.

As far as name calling is concerned, a heretic is a sinner if he doesn't repent after being reproved.

If false teachings are proved wrong, the church has been commanded to judge righteous judgment.
 
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No, I live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.(Matt 4:4)


1 Corinthians 5:6

New American Standard Bible
Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?


Galatians 5

7You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8This persuasion did not come from Him who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough. 10I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who is disturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves.
What you do is live by your interpretation of the word.

What would be sad is if you end up in hell, only because you had a hate fpr a group of people so severe, you would make sure everything they said was false, even if it lined with the word of God.

If we take every group of people who are christian, and took all their beliefs together, we would see there are many areas where they all agree, and yet many where they do not agree.

according to you that could not be true, You need to study more,