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Where to begin....hmmm...
First most of those scriptures were as a judgment for the JEWISH nation (earthly Israel) and the establishment of the CHURCH with both Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus under the NEW covenant by fulfilling the promise of the Old covenant and the Promise God made to Abraham and his Seed.
that is why Jesus said He came for the Jews when He was alive and only sent the 70 to the cities of Israel. He fulfilled the Daniel 9 prophecy and fulfilled the requirements to recoil Israel with God.
Luke 10
1 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also,[a] and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house. 8 Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you. 9 And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’ 10 But whatever city you enter, and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say, 11 ‘The very dust of your city which clings to us we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near you.’ 12 But[c] I say to you that it will be more tolerable in that Day for Sodom than for that city.
13 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14 But it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you. 15 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades.[d] 16 He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”
Did Jesus go to any city that was not established by a descendant of Abraham?
As for the tares and the wheat, the Pharisees who did not repent and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior were cast out of the Kingdom. they did not inherit eternal life even though they had the blood of Abraham in their veins.
Is Christ's Kingdom physical or spiritual?
Matthew 13
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”
37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
First most of those scriptures were as a judgment for the JEWISH nation (earthly Israel) and the establishment of the CHURCH with both Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus under the NEW covenant by fulfilling the promise of the Old covenant and the Promise God made to Abraham and his Seed.
that is why Jesus said He came for the Jews when He was alive and only sent the 70 to the cities of Israel. He fulfilled the Daniel 9 prophecy and fulfilled the requirements to recoil Israel with God.
Luke 10
1 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also,[a] and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house. 8 Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you. 9 And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’ 10 But whatever city you enter, and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say, 11 ‘The very dust of your city which clings to us we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near you.’ 12 But[c] I say to you that it will be more tolerable in that Day for Sodom than for that city.
13 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14 But it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you. 15 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades.[d] 16 He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”
Did Jesus go to any city that was not established by a descendant of Abraham?
As for the tares and the wheat, the Pharisees who did not repent and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior were cast out of the Kingdom. they did not inherit eternal life even though they had the blood of Abraham in their veins.
Is Christ's Kingdom physical or spiritual?
Matthew 13
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”
37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
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am i really mixing scriptures
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or are you defending someone
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You should know that about me by now. I merely state what I believe.
I believe a lot of scripture is fulfilled by the events of the first century.
Not all but more then people give God credit for fulfilling already.
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God prophecies of the time Jesus would walk the earth and what He would fulfill and what would be changed. Moses wrote of it and told the people to sing the song as a witness against them. do you remember the song?
Its in Deuteronomy 32
here's an excerpt
Did you notice what it says about the generation when God will provide atonement?
the entire song was fulfilled in Jesus lifetime and shortly after His resurrection within the lifetime of that generation He was born into.
It is in God's written and revealed words. He said in Matthew 24 the generation He was speaking to would not pass away until what He spoke about was fulfilled.
Jesus appearance in the clouds is not Jesus SECOND coming, He never left. He was resurrected and ascended into the clouds. there is a difference.
when Jesus was resurrected would people consider that His second coming?
Its in Deuteronomy 32
here's an excerpt
Did you notice what it says about the generation when God will provide atonement?
the entire song was fulfilled in Jesus lifetime and shortly after His resurrection within the lifetime of that generation He was born into.
It is in God's written and revealed words. He said in Matthew 24 the generation He was speaking to would not pass away until what He spoke about was fulfilled.
Jesus appearance in the clouds is not Jesus SECOND coming, He never left. He was resurrected and ascended into the clouds. there is a difference.
when Jesus was resurrected would people consider that His second coming?
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Everything in Matthew 24 is accomplished. How can I say that? Simple. He told them...
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
He said to HIS disciples THEN, not one stone HERE.
Everything in that passage is linked to the events in AD70. Those stones there were throne down then.
He didn't say one stone 1900+ years from now in some rebuilt temple.
He said not one stone HERE! Those stones there were thrown down in AD70.
That was a coming in judgement.
People who push for some visible second coming in Matthew 24 are actually flying in the face of what Jesus warned them about. He was clear that it wasn't going to be a physical coming at that time.
“Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
People read the following verses and think it's referring to the visible end of the world coming. But it's not. It's using language we see throughout scripture to describe a coming of the Lord in judgement.
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Here's some examples of OT scriptures where God is described as riding on the clouds. It's Bible talk for God showed up. Also notice in Matthew 24 he said it was a SIGN of the Son of Man. A sign is a sign, not the visible reality of an actual body being seen.
Deuteronomy 33
26 “There is none like the God of [p]Jeshurun,
Who rides the heavens [q]to your help,
Psalm 68:33
33to him who rides in the heavens, the ancient heavens;
behold, he sends out his voice, his mighty voice.
Psalm 104
3He lays the beams of his chambers on the waters;he makes the clouds his chariot;
he rides on the wings of the wind;
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
He said to HIS disciples THEN, not one stone HERE.
Everything in that passage is linked to the events in AD70. Those stones there were throne down then.
He didn't say one stone 1900+ years from now in some rebuilt temple.
He said not one stone HERE! Those stones there were thrown down in AD70.
That was a coming in judgement.
People who push for some visible second coming in Matthew 24 are actually flying in the face of what Jesus warned them about. He was clear that it wasn't going to be a physical coming at that time.
“Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
People read the following verses and think it's referring to the visible end of the world coming. But it's not. It's using language we see throughout scripture to describe a coming of the Lord in judgement.
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Here's some examples of OT scriptures where God is described as riding on the clouds. It's Bible talk for God showed up. Also notice in Matthew 24 he said it was a SIGN of the Son of Man. A sign is a sign, not the visible reality of an actual body being seen.
Deuteronomy 33
26 “There is none like the God of [p]Jeshurun,
Who rides the heavens [q]to your help,
Psalm 68:33
33to him who rides in the heavens, the ancient heavens;
behold, he sends out his voice, his mighty voice.
Psalm 104
3He lays the beams of his chambers on the waters;he makes the clouds his chariot;
he rides on the wings of the wind;
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2 Samuel 22
7 “In my distress I called to the LORD;
I called out to my God.
From his temple he heard my voice;
my cry came to his ears.
8 The earth trembled and quaked,
the foundations of the heavens[c] shook;
they trembled because he was angry.
9 Smoke rose from his nostrils;
consuming fire came from his mouth,
burning coals blazed out of it.
10 He parted the heavens and came down;
dark clouds were under his feet.
7 “In my distress I called to the LORD;
I called out to my God.
From his temple he heard my voice;
my cry came to his ears.
8 The earth trembled and quaked,
the foundations of the heavens[c] shook;
they trembled because he was angry.
9 Smoke rose from his nostrils;
consuming fire came from his mouth,
burning coals blazed out of it.
10 He parted the heavens and came down;
dark clouds were under his feet.
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We're still awaiting his second coming to restore the world and bring judgement.
Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The Judgment of the Dead
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The Judgment of the Dead
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
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Ask Jesus...
Matthew 24
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Mark 13
1 As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!”
2 “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Luke 21
5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, 6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”
Matthew 24
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Mark 13
1 As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!”
2 “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Luke 21
5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, 6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”
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Because with the physical temple destroyed, a certain reality would be VERY clear.....
John 4
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
Ephesians 2
11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
John 4
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
Ephesians 2
11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
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because the physical temple was a lie. it became an idol and not commissioned by God. that is why Jesus told the Samaritian woman that people will worship God in SPIRIT and in TRUTH.
though God through His mercy made a covenant with Solomon, which Solomon forsook. however that is whole another topic...
Acts 17
24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.
people say that the temple was built by order of God but I have not been convinced of it by scripture.
As in that people think that the promise was made to Abraham's seeds and not just his SEED singular. So the covenant made with David was not concerning Solomon and his temple but JESUS who is the SEED mentioned. it is JESUS whose kingdom and throne will be established forever.
lets examine the scriptures:
2 Samuel 7
5 “Go and tell My servant David, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Would you build a house for Me to dwell in? 6 For I have not dwelt in a house since the time that I brought the children of Israel up from Egypt, even to this day, but have moved about in a tent and in a tabernacle. 7 Wherever I have moved about with all the children of Israel, have I ever spoken a word to anyone from the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people Israel, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’”’ 8 Now therefore, thus shall you say to My servant David, ‘Thus says the LORD of hosts: “I took you from the sheepfold, from following the sheep, to be ruler over My people, over Israel. 9 And I have been with you wherever you have gone, and have cut off all your enemies from before you, and have made you a great name, like the name of the great men who are on the earth. 10 Moreover I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own and move no more; nor shall the sons of wickedness oppress them anymore, as previously, 11 since the time that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel, and have caused you to rest from all your enemies. Also the LORD tells you that He will make you a house.[a]
12 “When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men. 15 But My mercy shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I removed from before you. 16 And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever.”’”
the HOUSE Jesus is building is His church. His throne is in Heaven and Earth is His footstool.
notice the singular "His kingdom" not "their kingdoms" ?
Solomon wanted to believe the promise was concerning him, but it's not.
(note the answer to the underline question is NO God never asked anyone to)
though God through His mercy made a covenant with Solomon, which Solomon forsook. however that is whole another topic...
Acts 17
24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.
people say that the temple was built by order of God but I have not been convinced of it by scripture.
As in that people think that the promise was made to Abraham's seeds and not just his SEED singular. So the covenant made with David was not concerning Solomon and his temple but JESUS who is the SEED mentioned. it is JESUS whose kingdom and throne will be established forever.
lets examine the scriptures:
2 Samuel 7
5 “Go and tell My servant David, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Would you build a house for Me to dwell in? 6 For I have not dwelt in a house since the time that I brought the children of Israel up from Egypt, even to this day, but have moved about in a tent and in a tabernacle. 7 Wherever I have moved about with all the children of Israel, have I ever spoken a word to anyone from the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people Israel, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’”’ 8 Now therefore, thus shall you say to My servant David, ‘Thus says the LORD of hosts: “I took you from the sheepfold, from following the sheep, to be ruler over My people, over Israel. 9 And I have been with you wherever you have gone, and have cut off all your enemies from before you, and have made you a great name, like the name of the great men who are on the earth. 10 Moreover I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own and move no more; nor shall the sons of wickedness oppress them anymore, as previously, 11 since the time that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel, and have caused you to rest from all your enemies. Also the LORD tells you that He will make you a house.[a]
12 “When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men. 15 But My mercy shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I removed from before you. 16 And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever.”’”
the HOUSE Jesus is building is His church. His throne is in Heaven and Earth is His footstool.
notice the singular "His kingdom" not "their kingdoms" ?
Solomon wanted to believe the promise was concerning him, but it's not.
(note the answer to the underline question is NO God never asked anyone to)
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then again we do have this in Chronicles .... hmm..
'6 Now He said to me, ‘It is your son Solomon who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be My son, and I will be his Father. 7 Moreover I will establish his kingdom forever, if he is steadfast to observe My commandments and My judgments, as it is this day.’ 8 Now therefore, in the sight of all Israel, the assembly of the LORD, and in the hearing of our God, be careful to seek out all the commandments of the LORD your God, that you may possess this good land, and leave it as an inheritance for your children after you forever."
going to read some more scripture and history...
wasn't Solomon's temple destroyed?
then rebuilt in Ezra 3
12 But many of the priests and Levites and heads of the fathers’ houses, old men who had seen the first temple, wept with a loud voice when the foundation of this temple was laid before their eyes.
then destroyed again?
did they observe sacrifices while they were in Babylonian captivity?
'6 Now He said to me, ‘It is your son Solomon who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be My son, and I will be his Father. 7 Moreover I will establish his kingdom forever, if he is steadfast to observe My commandments and My judgments, as it is this day.’ 8 Now therefore, in the sight of all Israel, the assembly of the LORD, and in the hearing of our God, be careful to seek out all the commandments of the LORD your God, that you may possess this good land, and leave it as an inheritance for your children after you forever."
going to read some more scripture and history...
wasn't Solomon's temple destroyed?
then rebuilt in Ezra 3
12 But many of the priests and Levites and heads of the fathers’ houses, old men who had seen the first temple, wept with a loud voice when the foundation of this temple was laid before their eyes.
then destroyed again?
did they observe sacrifices while they were in Babylonian captivity?
Actually the "soon" and "near" words do not refer to anything specific in Revelation such as your events of hitting the comma and period keys. Rather they refer to "The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place." This "revelation" could be applied to anything within the book of Revelation. We can only assume that the 1000 years may not fall into this category simply because of our own human definitions of "soon" and "near". However, we do not even know that, because we do not know in what context "soon" and "near" was meant and only assume that it is meant in a human context. But the inclusive language of Revelation 1:1 obviously does not include the 1000 years in human terms.
However, nothing is said of the events prior to the 1000 years. And while we may assume that they happen "soon" and are "near" according to human terms, that would still just be an assumption. It could be "soon" and "near" in terms of the age of the earth or - even more likely - in terms of prophetic events and eschatology, considering that the first prophetic events began at least 4,000 years prior to the writing of this text (when God prophesied to Adam and Eve of death, child birth, and presumably symbolically sacrificed an animal to clothe them).
In order to make your example fit with Revelation you'd have to say, "Very soon I'm going to hit the comma, period and enter keys. I'm going to hit the enter key 10,000,000 times." And only from the 10,000,000 times of hitting the enter key would we know that it was not necessarily going to come to completion any time soon. But since the actions of hitting the enter key are also lumped into "very soon" along with the actions of hitting the comma and period keys it can also establish a standard of meaning for what "very soon" means here. And that "very soon" does not mean "very soon" in human terms. So it seems illogical to just assume it is meant as such.
However, nothing is said of the events prior to the 1000 years. And while we may assume that they happen "soon" and are "near" according to human terms, that would still just be an assumption. It could be "soon" and "near" in terms of the age of the earth or - even more likely - in terms of prophetic events and eschatology, considering that the first prophetic events began at least 4,000 years prior to the writing of this text (when God prophesied to Adam and Eve of death, child birth, and presumably symbolically sacrificed an animal to clothe them).
In order to make your example fit with Revelation you'd have to say, "Very soon I'm going to hit the comma, period and enter keys. I'm going to hit the enter key 10,000,000 times." And only from the 10,000,000 times of hitting the enter key would we know that it was not necessarily going to come to completion any time soon. But since the actions of hitting the enter key are also lumped into "very soon" along with the actions of hitting the comma and period keys it can also establish a standard of meaning for what "very soon" means here. And that "very soon" does not mean "very soon" in human terms. So it seems illogical to just assume it is meant as such.
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Mt 23:37
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest
them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy
children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her
wings, and ye would not!
Mt.23:38
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mt.23:38
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say,
Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
I would like to offer an idea concerning the destruction of the temple in AD70.
The judgement that the Lord placed on Israel in Mt 23:38 was brought about the
Destruction of Israel as a nation which included the temple. By destruction I mean that
They were no longer a recognized nation and history tells how they were persecuted.
It was just the fulfilling of our Lord words.
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest
them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy
children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her
wings, and ye would not!
Mt.23:38
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mt.23:38
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say,
Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
I would like to offer an idea concerning the destruction of the temple in AD70.
The judgement that the Lord placed on Israel in Mt 23:38 was brought about the
Destruction of Israel as a nation which included the temple. By destruction I mean that
They were no longer a recognized nation and history tells how they were persecuted.
It was just the fulfilling of our Lord words.
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God knows how to communicate his thoughts to his people in terms they can understand!
When he said soon and near, he meant to convey a sense of soon and nearness in how they understood it.
The conjecture it takes to make soon and near mean 1900 or more years is incredible.
In the Bible God used soon and near to tell his people of things that were soon and near, right in their lifetime.
Look at this verse in Daniel where God uses a time statement to indicate something that wasn't near, but was far away!
Daniel 8
26 “The vision of the evenings and mornings
Which has been told is true;
But keep the vision secret,
For it pertains to many days in the future.”
Yet in Revelation he says..
"Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near." (Rev. 22:10)
When God means to convey a sense of far away in human terms, he uses those terms we understand. When he means to convey a sense of near and soon in human terms, he uses those terms.
There is no wiggling out of it.
Comparing scripture with scripture we see near means near and soon means soon when it's used to convey a sense of time from God to man in man's terms.
When he said soon and near, he meant to convey a sense of soon and nearness in how they understood it.
The conjecture it takes to make soon and near mean 1900 or more years is incredible.
In the Bible God used soon and near to tell his people of things that were soon and near, right in their lifetime.
Look at this verse in Daniel where God uses a time statement to indicate something that wasn't near, but was far away!
Daniel 8
26 “The vision of the evenings and mornings
Which has been told is true;
But keep the vision secret,
For it pertains to many days in the future.”
Yet in Revelation he says..
"Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near." (Rev. 22:10)
When God means to convey a sense of far away in human terms, he uses those terms we understand. When he means to convey a sense of near and soon in human terms, he uses those terms.
There is no wiggling out of it.
Comparing scripture with scripture we see near means near and soon means soon when it's used to convey a sense of time from God to man in man's terms.
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What right do you have to call my people a cult? When those proponents of the Trinity can not even find the word in their bibles. They can not find the phrase "God in three Persons". We preach that God (Father) dwelt (Lived) in the Son.
John 14:10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father who lives in me does his works. ...
In this sense they are one, For the Son of God is the express image of the Father. John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
We baptize in the salvation name of Jesus alone, we understand that the Apostles clearly understood the great commission well. Peter told three thousand Jews (After they asked "Men and brothers what shall we do") Then Peter said to them: Repent and be baptized EVERYONE of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the REMISSION of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Spirit).
I do not believe that he said to those Jews gathered out of every Nation after the manner of these words: Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, turn from sin, and accept him into your heart. Accepting Jesus into your heart can not even be found in the bible, let alone that many teach this to be the means of being saved. This same Peter preached this message to the Gentiles, for consider the passages of scripture:
---Amuzgo de Guerrero (AMU)--- Amuzgo de Guerrero ---العربية (AR)--- Arabic Bible: Easy-to-Read Version Arabic Life Application Bible ---Български (BG)--- 1940 Bulgarian Bible Bulgarian Bible Bulgarian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Chinanteco de Comaltepec (CCO)--- Chinanteco de Comaltepec ---Cakchiquel Occidental (CKW)--- Cakchiquel Occidental ---Kreyol (CPF)--- Haitian Creole Version ---Čeština (CS)--- Slovo na cestu ---Dansk (DA)--- Dette er Biblen på dansk ---Deutsch (DE)--- Hoffnung für Alle Luther Bibel 1545 ---English (EN)--- 21st Century King James Version American Standard Version Amplified Bible Common English Bible Contemporary English Version Darby Translation Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition Easy-to-Read Version English Standard Version English Standard Version Anglicised GOD’S WORD Translation Good News Translation Holman Christian Standard Bible J.B. Phillips New Testament King James Version Lexham English Bible The Message New American Standard Bible New Century Version New International Reader's Version New International Version New International Version 1984 New International Version - UK New King James Version New Life Version New Living Translation Today's New International Version Worldwide English (New Testament) Wycliffe Bible Young's Literal Translation ---Español (ES)--- La Biblia de las Américas Castilian Dios Habla Hoy Nueva Biblia Latinoamericana de Hoy Nueva Traducción Viviente Nueva Versión Internacional Palabra de Dios para Todos Reina Valera Contemporánea Reina-Valera 1960 Reina-Valera 1995 Reina-Valera Antigua Traducción en lenguaje actual ---Français (FR)--- La Bible du Semeur Louis Segond Nouvelle Edition de Genève – NEG1979 Segond 21 ---Κοινη (GRC)--- 1550 Stephanus New Testament 1881 Westcott-Hort New Testament 1894 Scrivener New Testament SBL Greek New Testament ---עיברית (HE)--- The Westminster Leningrad Codex ---Ilonggo (HIL)--- Hiligaynon Bible ---Hrvatski (HR)--- Croatian Bible ---Magyar (HU)--- Hungarian Károli Hungarian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Íslenska (IS)--- Icelandic Bible ---Italiano (IT)--- Conferenza Episcopale Italiana La Nuova Diodati La Parola è Vita Nuova Riveduta 1994 ---Jacalteco, Oriental (JAC)--- Jacalteco, Oriental ---Kekchi (KEK)--- Kekchi ---Latina (LA)--- Biblia Sacra Vulgata ---Māori (MI)--- Maori Bible ---Macedonian (MK)--- Macedonian New Testament ---Mam, Central (MVC)--- Mam, Central ---Mam, Todos Santos (MVJ)--- Mam de Todos Santos Chuchumatán ---Plautdietsch (NDS)--- Reimer 2001 ---Náhuatl de Guerrero (NGU)--- Náhuatl de Guerrero ---Nederlands (NL)--- Het Boek ---Norsk (NO)--- Det Norsk Bibelselskap 1930 En Levende Bok ---Português (PT)--- João Ferreira de Almeida Atualizada O Livro Portuguese New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Quiché, Centro Occidenta (QUT)--- Quiché, Centro Occidental ---Română (RO)--- Romanian Romanian ---Русский (RU)--- Russian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version Russian Synodal Version Slovo Zhizny ---Slovenčina (SK)--- Nádej pre kazdého ---Shqip (SQ)--- Albanian Bible ---Српски (SR)--- Serbian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Svenska (SV)--- Levande Bibeln Svenska 1917 ---Kiswahili (SW)--- Swahili New Testament ---ภาษาไทย (TH)--- Thai New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Tagalog (TL)--- Ang Salita ng Diyos ---Українська (UK)--- Ukrainian Bible Ukrainian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Uspanteco (USP)--- Uspanteco ---Tiêng Viêt (VI)--- 1934 Vietnamese Bible Vietnamese Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---汉语 (ZH)--- Chinese New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version Chinese Union Version (Simplified) Chinese Union Version (Traditional)
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Acts 10:43-48
King James Version (KJV)
43To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
He commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord, baptism in water was not an option nor was it just an outward sign or work, showing obedience. Those who teach that it is NOT required to be baptized, are clean contrary to the doctrine (teaching) of Jesus. For he commanded them to teach ALL Nations baptizing in the Name.
Did the Apostles understand the command or not? Did not the Master say: Teaching them to obseve all things whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. Is not baptism a commandment of Christ, yes or no? Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Cross references: Paul taught baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ, for consider this passage.
Acts 19:5
King James Version (KJV)
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Yes we truly preach the gospel. But I find it strange why people resist what Jesus commanded and what his Apostles commanded. No my friend we are not a cult, we support and promote the name of Jesus like no other.
Have you been baptized in the Name of Jesus, if you were baptized in was in the titles of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Father is not a name, Son is not a name, Holy Spirit is not a name, But Jesus said I am come in my Fathers Name. Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Please do not comment to dispute these valid scriptures of truth, less you find yourself fighting against the Name of Jesus. If they of the early Church baptized in the Name of Jesus, then show me where they baptized any convert into the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, go ahead show me the scripture!
You will not find the term TRIUNE GOD, nor will you find God in three Persons, You will not find the word Trinity, but what you find is that God was in Christ.
Titus 2:10 not purloining, but showing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God ... that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.
Hey friend, I thought Jesus was our savior, so the Father is the Savior, the Son is the Savior, the Holy Spirit is the Savior, is there three Saviors? NO THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD, ONE GOD, ONE SAVIOR, ONE FAITH. Read
Ephesians 4:4-6
New International Version (NIV)
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
This case is closed.
John 14:10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father who lives in me does his works. ...
In this sense they are one, For the Son of God is the express image of the Father. John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
We baptize in the salvation name of Jesus alone, we understand that the Apostles clearly understood the great commission well. Peter told three thousand Jews (After they asked "Men and brothers what shall we do") Then Peter said to them: Repent and be baptized EVERYONE of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the REMISSION of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Spirit).
I do not believe that he said to those Jews gathered out of every Nation after the manner of these words: Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, turn from sin, and accept him into your heart. Accepting Jesus into your heart can not even be found in the bible, let alone that many teach this to be the means of being saved. This same Peter preached this message to the Gentiles, for consider the passages of scripture:
---Amuzgo de Guerrero (AMU)--- Amuzgo de Guerrero ---العربية (AR)--- Arabic Bible: Easy-to-Read Version Arabic Life Application Bible ---Български (BG)--- 1940 Bulgarian Bible Bulgarian Bible Bulgarian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Chinanteco de Comaltepec (CCO)--- Chinanteco de Comaltepec ---Cakchiquel Occidental (CKW)--- Cakchiquel Occidental ---Kreyol (CPF)--- Haitian Creole Version ---Čeština (CS)--- Slovo na cestu ---Dansk (DA)--- Dette er Biblen på dansk ---Deutsch (DE)--- Hoffnung für Alle Luther Bibel 1545 ---English (EN)--- 21st Century King James Version American Standard Version Amplified Bible Common English Bible Contemporary English Version Darby Translation Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition Easy-to-Read Version English Standard Version English Standard Version Anglicised GOD’S WORD Translation Good News Translation Holman Christian Standard Bible J.B. Phillips New Testament King James Version Lexham English Bible The Message New American Standard Bible New Century Version New International Reader's Version New International Version New International Version 1984 New International Version - UK New King James Version New Life Version New Living Translation Today's New International Version Worldwide English (New Testament) Wycliffe Bible Young's Literal Translation ---Español (ES)--- La Biblia de las Américas Castilian Dios Habla Hoy Nueva Biblia Latinoamericana de Hoy Nueva Traducción Viviente Nueva Versión Internacional Palabra de Dios para Todos Reina Valera Contemporánea Reina-Valera 1960 Reina-Valera 1995 Reina-Valera Antigua Traducción en lenguaje actual ---Français (FR)--- La Bible du Semeur Louis Segond Nouvelle Edition de Genève – NEG1979 Segond 21 ---Κοινη (GRC)--- 1550 Stephanus New Testament 1881 Westcott-Hort New Testament 1894 Scrivener New Testament SBL Greek New Testament ---עיברית (HE)--- The Westminster Leningrad Codex ---Ilonggo (HIL)--- Hiligaynon Bible ---Hrvatski (HR)--- Croatian Bible ---Magyar (HU)--- Hungarian Károli Hungarian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Íslenska (IS)--- Icelandic Bible ---Italiano (IT)--- Conferenza Episcopale Italiana La Nuova Diodati La Parola è Vita Nuova Riveduta 1994 ---Jacalteco, Oriental (JAC)--- Jacalteco, Oriental ---Kekchi (KEK)--- Kekchi ---Latina (LA)--- Biblia Sacra Vulgata ---Māori (MI)--- Maori Bible ---Macedonian (MK)--- Macedonian New Testament ---Mam, Central (MVC)--- Mam, Central ---Mam, Todos Santos (MVJ)--- Mam de Todos Santos Chuchumatán ---Plautdietsch (NDS)--- Reimer 2001 ---Náhuatl de Guerrero (NGU)--- Náhuatl de Guerrero ---Nederlands (NL)--- Het Boek ---Norsk (NO)--- Det Norsk Bibelselskap 1930 En Levende Bok ---Português (PT)--- João Ferreira de Almeida Atualizada O Livro Portuguese New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Quiché, Centro Occidenta (QUT)--- Quiché, Centro Occidental ---Română (RO)--- Romanian Romanian ---Русский (RU)--- Russian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version Russian Synodal Version Slovo Zhizny ---Slovenčina (SK)--- Nádej pre kazdého ---Shqip (SQ)--- Albanian Bible ---Српски (SR)--- Serbian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Svenska (SV)--- Levande Bibeln Svenska 1917 ---Kiswahili (SW)--- Swahili New Testament ---ภาษาไทย (TH)--- Thai New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Tagalog (TL)--- Ang Salita ng Diyos ---Українська (UK)--- Ukrainian Bible Ukrainian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Uspanteco (USP)--- Uspanteco ---Tiêng Viêt (VI)--- 1934 Vietnamese Bible Vietnamese Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---汉语 (ZH)--- Chinese New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version Chinese Union Version (Simplified) Chinese Union Version (Traditional)
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Acts 10:43-48
King James Version (KJV)
43To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
He commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord, baptism in water was not an option nor was it just an outward sign or work, showing obedience. Those who teach that it is NOT required to be baptized, are clean contrary to the doctrine (teaching) of Jesus. For he commanded them to teach ALL Nations baptizing in the Name.
Did the Apostles understand the command or not? Did not the Master say: Teaching them to obseve all things whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. Is not baptism a commandment of Christ, yes or no? Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Cross references: Paul taught baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ, for consider this passage.
Acts 19:5
King James Version (KJV)
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Yes we truly preach the gospel. But I find it strange why people resist what Jesus commanded and what his Apostles commanded. No my friend we are not a cult, we support and promote the name of Jesus like no other.
Have you been baptized in the Name of Jesus, if you were baptized in was in the titles of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Father is not a name, Son is not a name, Holy Spirit is not a name, But Jesus said I am come in my Fathers Name. Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Please do not comment to dispute these valid scriptures of truth, less you find yourself fighting against the Name of Jesus. If they of the early Church baptized in the Name of Jesus, then show me where they baptized any convert into the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, go ahead show me the scripture!
You will not find the term TRIUNE GOD, nor will you find God in three Persons, You will not find the word Trinity, but what you find is that God was in Christ.
Titus 2:10 not purloining, but showing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God ... that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.
Hey friend, I thought Jesus was our savior, so the Father is the Savior, the Son is the Savior, the Holy Spirit is the Savior, is there three Saviors? NO THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD, ONE GOD, ONE SAVIOR, ONE FAITH. Read
Ephesians 4:4-6
New International Version (NIV)
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
This case is closed.
The word Bible is not found in the Bible
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The coming of Chrsit on Jerusalm was a coming in judgemnt, not the second coming of Christ as spoken of in other places.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
Heb 9:28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.
In Matthew 24 there are two questions that are asked by Christ disciples.
Mat 24:1 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down."
Mat 24:3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Christ left the temple and then told his disciples that not one stone would be left upon another. He is speaking about the temple, the temple was located in Jerusalem. Go back to Matthew 23:36-39, Christ is speaking about Jerusalem. Anytime a Scripture is interpreted it must be interpreted in light of its context. A text out of context is pretext to error.
Anyway Christ is asked three question by his disciples in verse number 3.
1. He is asked when will these things be
2. What will be the sign of Your coming and the end of age.
The disciples want to know when the temple is going to be destroyed, and Christ lays it out for them in verse 4-35. This would be inclusive of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.
Mat 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.
Christ even tells the disciples that all the things that he had just said would happen within their generation.
If it has not happened then there should be some real old folks walking around somewhere.
Christ then answers the 2nd question beginning in verse 36.
What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age.
Verse 36, " "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."
Christ then goes on to explain in verse 37 - 57 and following and uses Noah as an example. Christ even reiterates that no one knows the hour in verse 42, 44.
That is why the parables in Chapter 25 are important. They teach that one must always be prepared because we do not know the day or the hour of Christ return. There will be no signs, that is why it is said that Christ would return as a thief in the night. A theif does nto give any signs of coming.
1Th 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
The previous two verse pertian to the Second coming, if not prove from Scripture what they are speaking about.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
Heb 9:28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.
In Matthew 24 there are two questions that are asked by Christ disciples.
Mat 24:1 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down."
Mat 24:3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Christ left the temple and then told his disciples that not one stone would be left upon another. He is speaking about the temple, the temple was located in Jerusalem. Go back to Matthew 23:36-39, Christ is speaking about Jerusalem. Anytime a Scripture is interpreted it must be interpreted in light of its context. A text out of context is pretext to error.
Anyway Christ is asked three question by his disciples in verse number 3.
1. He is asked when will these things be
2. What will be the sign of Your coming and the end of age.
The disciples want to know when the temple is going to be destroyed, and Christ lays it out for them in verse 4-35. This would be inclusive of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.
Mat 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.
Christ even tells the disciples that all the things that he had just said would happen within their generation.
If it has not happened then there should be some real old folks walking around somewhere.
Christ then answers the 2nd question beginning in verse 36.
What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age.
Verse 36, " "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."
Christ then goes on to explain in verse 37 - 57 and following and uses Noah as an example. Christ even reiterates that no one knows the hour in verse 42, 44.
That is why the parables in Chapter 25 are important. They teach that one must always be prepared because we do not know the day or the hour of Christ return. There will be no signs, that is why it is said that Christ would return as a thief in the night. A theif does nto give any signs of coming.
1Th 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
The previous two verse pertian to the Second coming, if not prove from Scripture what they are speaking about.
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PS: do you believe Matthew 24:30-31 is already fulfilled?
It talks about HEAVEN and what takes place there. why do people think it is about Earth?
Matthew 24
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
would you like some scriptures that describe the same event?
Revelation 12
New King James Version (NKJV)
1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.
3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. 5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
Colossians 2
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins[c] of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
you see most people think these verses are fulfilled. they get hung up on the Satan bound part or the beast of the sea and land part, but that is for another post. this one is already longer then most people would read. lol.
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