The False Doctrine Most Professing Christians are unaware of.

ukok102nak · Sep 22, 2015

please repeat me after me ( just kiddin )

we are not contending anyone here
my breathrens and my fellows :smoke:

we only trying to show everyone what we can share in
our own experienced and through the help and mercy of
our lord god who is good and doesnt lie

when that time comes were very sure that everyone would surely understand it.
but not this time and what we are trying to sAy is what most people believed
within those past years
that our lord jesus christ the only begotten son
should return any moment in any given specific time :smoke:

please try to remember what those other religions did way back from
1800, 1900 and even up to now
we hope everybody here doesnt need to search ``the book of the lord`` diligently
in order to recieved `` the message ``
of sympathy
to each belongings and life saving grace of everyone so that
from what we call ``pay per preach``
people you will be saved by faith and grace :happy:
after that salvation :smoke:

pleased forgive us for being not straight forward
because it hurts us also knowing that
``it happened before``

thank you very much :happy:

ukok102nak · Sep 22, 2015

please dont wronged us :smoke: to be the one who knew this thing before
for ``it happened``
and history repeats itsefl, maybe ( dontknow )

we dont want to hurt the feelings of those people
but this is what lies beyond the human thinking.

thank you very much
again :happy:

just-me · Sep 23, 2015

peacefulbeliever said:

I'm trying to understand you, but this statement of yours confuses me.

peacefulbeliever said:

I have no argument with that.

peacefulbeliever said:

"Nuff said" meaning the post was long enough and I had nothing more to add to it. Sorry that you took it the wrong way.

peacefulbeliever · Sep 23, 2015

just-me said:

Because I say a subject (things of the OT) is not applicable (capable of being put to use or put into practice) to me - does not mean I have "rejected" (throw away or discard) any learning that I may receive from said subject (OT).
Same as Romans 15:4 . . . . .

oyster67 · Sep 23, 2015

just-me said:

Remember.…. “God is not the author of confusion” 1 Corinthians 14:33
The last part of this verse is to the true Church, not many organizations of men. God’s Church, made up of many congregations of true Christians/believers/saints, was meant to reflect peace, not confusion as we see today. “For God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.”

A misunderstanding/misinterpretation of 1 Corinthians 12 is the catalyst for the spread of this plague, and it is very serious. This teaching that is “we agree to disagree” and “there are many routes to heaven” and “there are many spokes in the wheel of salvation” mindset. They permeate the air within the realm numerous denominations that differ from others. People sincerely believe these clichés but they completely contradict the truth.

Most of us are familiar with how the Body of Christ in 1 Corinthians 12 is compared with the human body which we obviously are acquainted with. We are taught that this means that the Body of Christ – Jesus’ Church – consists of many denominations, fellowships, assemblies, and communities of believers, all connected by the Holy Spirit working in believers wherever they are. This teaching asserts that Christ and His Body are divided among many different groups or organizations. This is counterfeit, just as money can be counterfeited – clever look-alikes, but not real.

Churches are teaching that the Body of Christ is a disconnected spiritual body, made up of disagreeing people, spread throughout professing Christianity. Not so. God created the human body so He is very well aware of the depth of the analogy He presents in His Word. What happens when a body part – an ear, a hand, or whatever – is severed from the human body? It dies. No body part can live long without the connective tissue and blood supply of the rest of the body.

Consider these scriptures written by Paul to two different congregations.

“And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.” Colossians 1:18

“And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.” Ephesians 1:22-23

"Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." Ephesians 4:3-6

There is no way these passages can be confused as meaning anything but the all-encompassing unity required of God’s people. Remember how Christ prayed for this unity in John 17?

It is widely accepted that the Church is a ‘type’ of Christ’s own Body and as its head He builds and governs it. Acts chapter 2 describes the Body as being unified in both love and doctrinal truth. There can be no denying that this passage shows that the entire Church (“whole body” and “every part”) must be walking together in complete doctrinal agreement under Christ’s authority.

“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” Romans 16:17

A person who does this will eventually feel isolated and alone. If that happens to a true believer, he/she is drawn even closer to the truth. Example: Peter denied Christ three times in one night because of the reaction of his human nature – he didn’t want to be arrested or be an outcast from society around him. Who can blame him for that? But we know the rest of the story – Peter was a true believer and he was immediately sorrowful and repentant for his deed, and drew even closer to the Messiah’s truth.

Compromise is a word that does not describe God but does describe the doctrine of Balaam and the doctrine of the Nicolaitans.

Rejecting even one smidgen of God's word in order to endorse His grace is where division begins, because rejecting certain parts of His given word to us is in actuality rejecting of His grace. This rejection is carnal, for the carnal mind is enmity against God.

Excellent thread, just-me. Your sig is right-on as well. This is one for my blog. God speed, brother.

just-me · Sep 23, 2015

peacefulbeliever said:

Many things that are defined in a physical way, in the OT, cannot be put into practice physically. I agree. They can, however, be put into practice spiritually. And then they are applicable to our character, and by that process, we are being conformed into the image of Christ by the Holy Spirit.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Romans 8:29 (I'm not a Calvinist)

But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. Matthew 19:26

Grandpa · Sep 23, 2015

KennethC said:

Which is the outcome of EVERYONE who attempts to follow the Law.

KennethC · Sep 23, 2015

HeRoseFromTheDead said:

There is absolutely nothing in scripture that supports this understanding, because the Lord Himself set the new covenant standings for us. He never said there was nothing for us to do, and as a matter of fact He showed us to walk in love and said to much is given much will be required. (Luke 12:48)

KennethC · Sep 23, 2015

Grandpa said:

Yes the written ordinances of the law that does not apply in the new covenant, but nobody is saying those written ordinances apply.

What we are speaking on is the Spiritual aspect the law still has now, as some of it has been fulfilled by the Lord and others have yet to be fulfilled as it is still future events to come. Also the moral aspect is upheld by walking in love, which is why Apostle Paul says by faith we establish the law (not void it) and in Romans 13:9-11 shows that by love we uphold all the Lords commandments !!!

Grandpa · Sep 23, 2015

KennethC said:

Yes,,,,, but, but, but...

You either understand or you don't.

The leaven of the pharisees is the necessary outcome of EVERYONE who attempts to follow the law in their own strength and will.

Whether they attempt to separate the 'physical' from the 'moral' or the 'sacrificial' from the 'moral' or any other attempt at separation of the law in order to attempt to excuse their following of it.

The ministry of Condemnation and Death written on Stones. You want to separate the morality of the Law? Be Perfect as God is Perefect. There is your morality.

Galatians 2:16 [SUP] [/SUP]Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:11-12
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Do you see?

just-me · Sep 23, 2015

We should be "juxtaposing" the word of God according to His will, not "just supposing" God's word according to our predetermined viewpoint.
The former ties together, and the latter "tears" apart and the latter/last will be treated as "tares" in the end.

KennethC · Sep 23, 2015

Grandpa said:

I understand just fine and by your response it shows that you are the one who does not understand the physical (written ordinance form) and the Spiritual (moral aspect) is separated in the word of God.

Galatians 2:16,3:11-12 is about those who tried to get justification by keeping the written ordinances of the laws, not those that uphold the commandments out of walking in love.

In order to do away with the moral aspect as the same as the written then you would have to throw away Romans 3:31, 13:9-11, Hebrews 8:10, 10:16, 1 John 2:3, 5:2-3, and many others...............

I see just fine and the ministry of death is the written ordinance form that the flesh is to weak to keep and thus brought death for failure to keep them. By the moral aspect of walking in love and with God's Holy Spirit guiding us it says now all things are possible to those of us who believe !!!

Grandpa · Sep 24, 2015

KennethC said:

You are still working at the law. If you are attempting to keep physical ordinances because the law says so you are working at it.

If you are attempting to keep the morality of the law because the law say so you are working at it.

Both ways are working at the law. You've just found a way to excuse yourself from the label of "worker at the law".

You are attempting to emulate something by your own work that can't be emulated by mens will. The "morality" of the law is provided by Christ through the Holy Spirit.

Its not something that you attain by your "obedience" or "morality".

Its the work of Christ in you. Its the fruit of the Spirit.

Matthew 11:28-30
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:10 [SUP] [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Galatians 3:11-12

[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

There is no law, no curse, against the fruit of the Spirit. There is a curse for those who attempt to work at the law and fail. I don't know why people continue to choose the curse and try to teach others to choose it as well. It must be because everyone understands working and very few understand rest.

just-me · Sep 26, 2015

Grandpa said:

Say what!!???

In other words, the law of God isn't moral, therefore it is contrary to God's grace to study these immoral aspects that are against grace, desiring this immorality defined therein, having the desire to incorporate them into our lives, simply because we believe in all of God's spoken words that are fulfilled in Christ Jesus.

Backwards much??

HeRoseFromTheDead · Sep 26, 2015

KennethC said:

I understand just fine and by your response it shows that you are the one who does not understand the physical (written ordinance form) and the Spiritual (moral aspect) is separated in the word of God.

Galatians 2:16,3:11-12 is about those who tried to get justification by keeping the written ordinances of the laws, not those that uphold the commandments out of walking in love.

In order to do away with the moral aspect as the same as the written then you would have to throw away Romans 3:31, 13:9-11, Hebrews 8:10, 10:16, 1 John 2:3, 5:2-3, and many others...............

I see just fine and the ministry of death is the written ordinance form that the flesh is to weak to keep and thus brought death for failure to keep them. By the moral aspect of walking in love and with God's Holy Spirit guiding us it says now all things are possible to those of us who believe !!!

In other words, we receive grace in order to keep the law. Typical sophistry of a sabbath keeper.

just-me · Sep 26, 2015

Here is a short story that, in my opinion, defines man's doctrines of regulation, in like manner to Pharisaical doctrines.

While attending the church we belonged to (Baptist), it was hard core doctrine, and a carnal sin to drink any alcoholic beverages. Every Sunday morning, between Sunday School and the church service, most everyone would gather outside, in front of the church building, and have a smoke. Then, along with the sermon, we would also hear coughing. We received 2 messages during every service, including Wednesday night, one with words and another without words. LOL
We were compelled to keep our daily glass of wine a secret according to scripture. I like my wine.

Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend. 1 Corinthians 8:13

Either Zyban or Chantix.............

in case Nicoban has been made obsolete according to the FDA

just-me · Sep 27, 2015

It's all or nothing in the end.

Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

From the wisest man only 2nd to Christ Himself.

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