The Future Of Christ's Naughty Followers
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Hm. Wonder who that was?
Wow, lye soap. That stuff takes the skin off! I'm not that slimed.
Wow, lye soap. That stuff takes the skin off! I'm not that slimed.
As to the soap, any cook knows it takes a lot of spice, to kill the taste of some things.
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If perchance what I wrote in post #37 is true and reliable; then Christ's
believing LGBT followers have just as great a future to look forward to as all
the rest of Christ's believing followers, including, but not limited to, the
believing liars, the believing adulterers, the believing swindlers, the believing
alcoholics, the believing fornicators, the believing male and female
prostitutes, the believing malicious gossips, the believing users of bad
language, the believing porn stars, the believing avarice-prone moguls, and
the believing thieves; et al.
However, his disbelieving followers are cursed even as we speak-- no delay
and no waiting period.
†. John 3:18 . .Whoever believes in him is not condemned; but whoever
disbelieves stands condemned already.
I take it that "whoever" implicates the disbelievers among even those whose
conduct we might regard as exemplary, admirable, and ultra pious: the
veritable poster children of modern Christianity.
†. Matt 7:22-23 . . Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Master, have we
not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in
thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them: I
never knew you. Depart from me, you that work iniquity.
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If perchance what I wrote in post #37 is true and reliable; then Christ's
believing LGBT followers have just as great a future to look forward to as all
the rest of Christ's believing followers, including, but not limited to, the
believing liars, the believing adulterers, the believing swindlers, the believing
alcoholics, the believing fornicators, the believing male and female
prostitutes, the believing malicious gossips, the believing users of bad
language, the believing porn stars, the believing avarice-prone moguls, and
the believing thieves; et al.
However, his disbelieving followers are cursed even as we speak-- no delay
and no waiting period.
†. John 3:18 . .Whoever believes in him is not condemned; but whoever
disbelieves stands condemned already.
I take it that "whoever" implicates the disbelievers among even those whose
conduct we might regard as exemplary, admirable, and ultra pious: the
veritable poster children of modern Christianity.
†. Matt 7:22-23 . . Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Master, have we
not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in
thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them: I
never knew you. Depart from me, you that work iniquity.
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†. Heb 12:14b . . Pursue sanctification, without which no one will see the
Lord.
The Greek word for "sanctification" is hagiasmos (hag-ee-as-mos') which
means purity; which can be defined as not mixed or adulterated with any
other substance or material; for example:
†. 1Cor 5:6-7 . . Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole
lump of dough? Clean out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, just
as you are in fact unleavened.
"without which no one will see the Lord"
What is that saying? Does it mean if perchance one of Christ's believing
followers fails to achieve purity in this life, they will be lost when they pass
on? No; not according to the Bible.
Christ's believing followers all have eternal life; which is a quality of life
that's immune to the wrath of God and impervious to the wages of sin.
†. John 5:24 . . I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe
in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for
their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.
†. Rom 6:23 . .The wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal
life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
In view of the fact that everyone in heaven is pure; then it only stands to
reason that when Christ's believing followers pass on, that's when the
circumcision spoken of at Col 2:11 takes over and deceased born-again
Christians shed their impure human nature like a dead skin; which indeed it
is.
†. Rom 6:6 . . For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that
the body of sin might be done away with; that we should no longer be slaves
to sin
†. Col 3:3-4 . . For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in
glory.
So; Paul is saying: In view of the fact that purity will characterize your
lifestyle in the future, then what the hay; why not be pure now?
But not to worry. Should one of Christ's believing followers fail to become
pure here, it is the Lord's pleasure to ensure they are pure there.
†. Eph 5:25-27 . . Christ loved the church, and gave himself for it; that he
might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, that he
might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or
any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
†. Heb 9:13-14 . . For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a
heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled, sanctify for the cleansing of
the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal
Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from
dead works to serve the living God?
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†. Heb 12:14b . . Pursue sanctification, without which no one will see the
Lord.
The Greek word for "sanctification" is hagiasmos (hag-ee-as-mos') which
means purity; which can be defined as not mixed or adulterated with any
other substance or material; for example:
†. 1Cor 5:6-7 . . Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole
lump of dough? Clean out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, just
as you are in fact unleavened.
"without which no one will see the Lord"
What is that saying? Does it mean if perchance one of Christ's believing
followers fails to achieve purity in this life, they will be lost when they pass
on? No; not according to the Bible.
Christ's believing followers all have eternal life; which is a quality of life
that's immune to the wrath of God and impervious to the wages of sin.
†. John 5:24 . . I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe
in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for
their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.
†. Rom 6:23 . .The wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal
life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
In view of the fact that everyone in heaven is pure; then it only stands to
reason that when Christ's believing followers pass on, that's when the
circumcision spoken of at Col 2:11 takes over and deceased born-again
Christians shed their impure human nature like a dead skin; which indeed it
is.
†. Rom 6:6 . . For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that
the body of sin might be done away with; that we should no longer be slaves
to sin
†. Col 3:3-4 . . For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in
glory.
So; Paul is saying: In view of the fact that purity will characterize your
lifestyle in the future, then what the hay; why not be pure now?
But not to worry. Should one of Christ's believing followers fail to become
pure here, it is the Lord's pleasure to ensure they are pure there.
†. Eph 5:25-27 . . Christ loved the church, and gave himself for it; that he
might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, that he
might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or
any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
†. Heb 9:13-14 . . For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a
heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled, sanctify for the cleansing of
the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal
Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from
dead works to serve the living God?
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FYI: "the church" isn't the Roman Catholic Church, nor any other specific
denomination. Christ's church is defined by John 5:24.
"I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe in God who sent
me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they
have already passed from death into life."
In other words: Christians claiming to be his church, while lacking eternal
life, are frauds-- they abide in death, and in grave danger of eternal
punishment.
And in point of fact, according to God's testimony, as an expert witness in all
matters pertaining to His own son: Christians lacking eternal life are also
lacking His son; viz: they are quite christless.
†. 1John 5:11-12 . . This is what God has testified: He has given us eternal
life, and this life is in His son. So whoever has God's son has the life;
whoever does not have the life, does not have His son.
Christians who question God's testimony, insinuate that He is a person of
marginal integrity who can't be trusted to always tell the truth.
†. 1John 5:9-11 . .We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is
greater because it is the testimony of God, which He has given about His
son. Anyone who does not believe God has made Him out to be a liar,
because he has not believed the testimony God has given about His son.
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FYI: "the church" isn't the Roman Catholic Church, nor any other specific
denomination. Christ's church is defined by John 5:24.
"I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe in God who sent
me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they
have already passed from death into life."
In other words: Christians claiming to be his church, while lacking eternal
life, are frauds-- they abide in death, and in grave danger of eternal
punishment.
And in point of fact, according to God's testimony, as an expert witness in all
matters pertaining to His own son: Christians lacking eternal life are also
lacking His son; viz: they are quite christless.
†. 1John 5:11-12 . . This is what God has testified: He has given us eternal
life, and this life is in His son. So whoever has God's son has the life;
whoever does not have the life, does not have His son.
Christians who question God's testimony, insinuate that He is a person of
marginal integrity who can't be trusted to always tell the truth.
†. 1John 5:9-11 . .We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is
greater because it is the testimony of God, which He has given about His
son. Anyone who does not believe God has made Him out to be a liar,
because he has not believed the testimony God has given about His son.
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