The Great Tribulation - A Futurist Lie
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I think that Israel today is a statement about God's will.
They hate Israel because they are proof that the God of Israel is real.
The fact that Israel exists, is showing what the truth is,
Jesus, the Messiah, is the Eternal Lord God Almighty, who died for the sins of all and rose again, ascending to the throne of His Father,
And that their "god" is not god.
When you count an army, we don't count just the people on the front lines,
We count all the supporting troops that supply and maintain the front line troops.
The army that attacks Israel is counted as all those who support the effort.
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Without much discussion about what the 4 corners of the world are, then and now,
I believe that just the Islamic powers alone, around the world, would probably qualify as enough to meet the level of support for fulfillment.
I look at it just the opposite.
Will the US risk national suicide over Israel?
Israel is surrounded by Russia, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Kurds, and the many others who support Israel's destruction.
Do you think that the US will win, against all of these powers combined?
Perhaps a war with China will happen.
Does the US have enough power to fight the world? No.
The end of the Pentecost Kingdom age.
The 1st resurrection in Rev 20 is "literally" (Ha Ha), the 1st resurrection where Jesus rose, 1 Cor 15:23-24.
The 2nd resurrection is literally the 2nd, where Jesus comes for the Kingdom, and then it is the end.
Brother EG,
Satan was cast down to earth on the Day of Pentecost, Rev 12:10, "...now is come the kingdom...".
He cannot return to heaven,
He has been here ever since.
But he could not deceive the nations until Jerusalem was restored to Israel, Rev 12:15-16.
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The idea the the 1000 yr reign is a time of peace on earth, is only for those in the Pentecost Kingdom who have God's blessings.
Jesus reigns from His throne in heaven,
To say that His throne is here on earth must be assumed.
The rest of the world goes on as usual with wars and sin.
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said what I mean and I have no problem saying it. Replacement theology,covenant,supressionism,whatever you call it. Anti-semtic beginnings and it hasn't changed. Im not going to say all who believe the theology are anti-semtic but the belief is and I had an inkling by the way you were talking in another thread that you had some pretty strong beliefs about Israel. Where do you come up with saying it is a terrorist state?!
said what I mean and I have no problem saying it. Replacement theology,covenant,supressionism,whatever you call it. Anti-semtic beginnings and it hasn't changed. Im not going to say all who believe the theology are anti-semtic but the belief is and I had an inkling by the way you were talking in another thread that you had some pretty strong beliefs about Israel. Where do you come up with saying it is a terrorist state?!
John, I assure you that Satan is alive and well on planet earth and also still has access to heaven. The chronology has Satan being thrown into the Abyss after Jesus returns to the earth to end the age. The reason that he will not be able to deceive the nations is because he will not have access to the surface of the earth during Christ's thousand year reign. Satan won't be able to tempt or deceive people, because he won't have access to them from the Abyss.
* You are here
* Jesus appears and gathers the church
* The ruler/antichrist establishes his seven year covenant
* Abomination is set up in the middle of the seven
* Jesus returns to the earth to end the age 3 1/2 years after the setting up of the abomination
* The beast and the false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire
* Satan is seized and bound in the Abyss for a thousand years.
* Thousand year reign of Christ
* At the end of the thousand years Satan is released and rebels one last time
* Great white throne judgment
* Eternity ......................................................................
* You are here
* Jesus appears and gathers the church
* The ruler/antichrist establishes his seven year covenant
* Abomination is set up in the middle of the seven
* Jesus returns to the earth to end the age 3 1/2 years after the setting up of the abomination
* The beast and the false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire
* Satan is seized and bound in the Abyss for a thousand years.
* Thousand year reign of Christ
* At the end of the thousand years Satan is released and rebels one last time
* Great white throne judgment
* Eternity ......................................................................
Yeah, sorry but none of the characteristics of the millennial period described in scripture, are currently present. The main characteristic being the literal presence of Christ on earth.
Do you know why that period is called Christ's millennial reign? It is because He will be ruling the earth with a rod of iron. Is that the current state of the earth?
The prophecy of Isaiah states that "the lion will eat straw like the ox." Are prey and predator animals will lie down together?
Scripture has the thousand year period taking place after God's wrath has been poured out and we have yet to see any the events of wrath described in Revelation.
* The tribulation period is a time of God's wrath being poured out
* The millennial period is a time of peace with Christ ruling
Therefore, they cannot be running at the same time.
Do you know why that period is called Christ's millennial reign? It is because He will be ruling the earth with a rod of iron. Is that the current state of the earth?
The prophecy of Isaiah states that "the lion will eat straw like the ox." Are prey and predator animals will lie down together?
Scripture has the thousand year period taking place after God's wrath has been poured out and we have yet to see any the events of wrath described in Revelation.
* The tribulation period is a time of God's wrath being poured out
* The millennial period is a time of peace with Christ ruling
Therefore, they cannot be running at the same time.
