The Lord's Supper

[Stephen63]

Then I apologize again, for I'm multitasking & time gets away from me. I assure you I didn't mean to distort the timeline.

Please forgive me.

Pleeeze, with a scoop of ice cream on top?

 

[Stephen63]

@Magenta,

 

[phil36]

I. Sacraments are holysigns and seals of the covenant of grace,(a) immediately institutedby God,(b) to represent Christ and His benefits; and to confirm ourinterest in Him;(c) as also, to put a visible difference betweenthose that belong unto the Church, and the rest of the world;(d) andsolemnly to engage them to the service of God in Christ, according toHis Word.(e)

(a) Rom. 4:11; Gen.17:7, 10.
(b) Matt. 28:19; I Cor. 11:23.
(c) ICor. 10:16; I Cor. 11:25, 26; Gal. 3:17.
(d) Rom.15:8; Exod. 12:48; Gen. 34:14.
(e) Rom. 6:3, 4; ICor. 10:16, 21.

II. There is in every sacrament a spiritual relation, or sacramental union, between the sign and the thing signified: whence it comes to pass, that the names and effects of the one are attributed to the other.(f)

(f) Gen.17:10; Matt. 26:27, 28; Tit. 3:5.

III. The grace which is exhibited in or by the sacraments rightly used, is not conferred by any power in them; neither doth the efficacy of a sacrament depend upon the piety or intention of him that doth administer it( g) but upon the work of the Spirit,(h) and the word of institution, which contains, together with a precept authorizing the use thereof, a promise of benefit to worthy receivers.(i)

(g) Rom.2:28, 29; I Pet. 3:21.
(h) Matt. 3:11; ICor. 12:13.
(i) Matt. 26:27, 28; Matt.28:19, 20.

IV. There are only two sacraments ordained by Christ our Lord in the Gospel; that is to say, Baptism and the Supper of the Lord: neither of which may be dispensed by any but by a minister of the Word lawfully ordained.(k)

(k) Matt.28:19; I Cor. 11:20, 23, I Cor. 4:1; Heb.5:4.

V. The sacraments of the Old Testament, in regard to the spiritual things thereby signified and exhibited, were, for substance, the same with those of the New.(l)

(l) ICor. 10:1, 2, 3, 4.

And


I. Our Lord Jesus, in the night wherein He was betrayed, instituted the sacrament of His body and blood, called the Lord’s Supper, to be observed in His Church, unto the end of the world, for the perpetual remembrance of the sacrifice of Himself in His death; the sealing all benefits thereof unto true believers, their spiritual nourishment and growth in Him, their further engagement in and to all duties which they owe unto Him; and to be a bond and pledge of their communion with Him,and with each other, as members of His mystical body.(a)

(a) ICor. 11:23, 24, 25, 26; I Cor. 10:16, 17, 21; ICor. 12:13.

II. In this sacrament, Christ is not offered up to His Father; nor any real sacrifice made at all for remission of sins of the quick or dead;(b) but only a commemoration of that one offering up of Himself, by Himself, upon the cross, once for all: and a spiritual oblation of all possible praise unto God for the same( c)so that the Popish sacrifice of the mass (as they call it) is most abominably injurious to Christ’s one, only sacrifice, the alone propitiation for all the sins of His elect.(d)

(b) Heb.9:22, 25, 26, 28.
(c) I Cor.11:24, 25, 26; Matt. 26:26, 27.
(d) Heb.7:23, 24, 27; Heb. 10:11, 12, 14, 18.


VII. Worthy receivers outwardly partaking of the visible elements in this sacrament, do then also, inwardly by faith, really and indeed, yet not carnally and corporally, but spiritually, receive and feed upon Christ crucified,and all benefits of His death: the body and blood of Christ being then, not corporally or carnally, in, with, or under the bread and wine; yet, as really, but spiritually, present to the faith of believers in that ordinance, as the elements themselves are to their outward senses.(o)

I Cor. 11:28.
(o) ICor. 10:16.

VIII. Although ignorant and wicked men receive the outward elements in this sacrament: yet they receive not the thing signified thereby, but by their unworthy coming thereunto are guilty of the body and blood of the Lord to their own damnation.Wherefore, all ignorant and ungodly persons, as they are unfit to enjoy communion with Him, so are they unworthy of the Lord’s table;and cannot, without great sin against Christ while they remain such,partake of these holy mysteries,(p) or be admitted thereunto.(q)

(p) I Cor. 11:27, 28, 29; II Cor.6:14, 15, 16.

(q) I Cor.5:6, 7, 13; II Thess. 3:6, 14, 15; Matt.7:6.

Ch 27 and part 1;2;7&8 of Ch 29 - Westminster Confession of Faith.

 

[abcdef]

Yet Jesus refused to uphold the Law of Moses (given by God) and stone a woman caught in adultery...... a clear violation of the Law, and punishable by death. How heretically odd of Him to set that example for us.

Jesus would not, and could not, break the Law of Moses or sin and be a perfect sacrifice.

It is also written,

Ex 33:19, "...and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy I whom I will shew mercy."

So Jesus (God) had the power to show mercy without breaking the Law of Moses.

 

[pottersclay]

Jesus would not, and could not, break the Law of Moses or sin and be a perfect sacrifice.

It is also written,

Ex 33:19, "...and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy I whom I will shew mercy."

So Jesus (God) had the power to show mercy without breaking the Law of Moses.

Actually the Jews there did not know the law either. Certainly the man was absent from the proceedings. The prescribed method of punishment was strangulation. Laying that aside I can't help but wonder if Jesus said in his mind (yeah you guys got this together here bravo).

What many refuse to see is that the law was subject to God. Like you stated God can choose to be merciful or not, gracious or not. This has separated with many that the God of the o.t is different than the God of the n.t. which is a false outlook.
Jesus said that all authority was given to him which means that he also could judge as well as forgive. Praise God he choose the latter. For that was his mission.
But let us always remember he comes back as the lion.

 

[Grace777x70]

Actually a few people "broke the Law of Moses".

Have we ever read where Jesus said that the priests who stand in the temple - break the Sabbath which is in the Law?...or that David and his men ate of the bread which was in the temple?

Matthew 12:2-6 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, "Look, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath."

[SUP]3 [/SUP] But He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions,

[SUP]4 [/SUP] how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for him to eat nor for those with him, but for the priests alone?

[SUP]5 [/SUP] "Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent?[SUP]6 [/SUP] "But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here.

Why were the priest not breaking the Sabbath law - because they were in the temple. Why did David be able to eat of the bread? Because he was in the temple.

This is why the true believer in Christ will not be breaking any Sabbath law because we are in the temple. Know you not that you are the temple of God?

Those that are in the temple are not breaking the Sabbath law by doing work because we are in Christ. He is the true temple of God as we are in union with Him and are one in the spirit.

Until we understand the reality of our union with Christ and what that means - we will be resorting to going back to the Law and trying to live by our own flesh and we are exchanging the law for Christ.

 

[abcdef]

To understand, what is to come, concerning the Lord's supper,

Think about what this means, what it implies,

Matt 26:29, "But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."

What happens when we eat His flesh and drink His blood in His Father's kingdom?

When we are entirely in the spirit?

Eph 5:31, "..., and they two shall become one flesh."

V 32, "This is a great mystery:but I speak concerning Christ and the church."

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Get ready, because the time is coming when this will be fulfilled.

It is beyond words.

 

[Stephen63]

@Magenta,

18 hours ago.....I guess she didn't.

 

[Stephen63]

Yet Jesus refused to uphold the Law of Moses (given by God) and stone a woman caught in adultery...... a clear violation of the Law, and punishable by death. How heretically odd of Him to set that example for us.

Jesus didn't break any law there..... He said, He that's without sin can throw the first stone at her. They decided to leave, from the oldest to the youngest, in order.

As God, he can pronounce judgment or withhold it.

You're plenty old enough to know what the scripture says.

 

[Locutus]

This went well...

 

[so-jesus-e-deus]

we shared Communion today.
what a blessing. we are so fortunate to have the gift.
...
this thread is to discuss all things related to the Bread and Wine, the gift of His body and blood.

The emphasis is not on eating and drinking, but on sharing:

• “And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.” (Matthew 26.26-29).

What the disciples should do in remembrance of Jesus is to share what the Lord gave them.
And note that no wine was used, but grape juice.

 

[Willie-T]

The emphasis is not on eating and drinking, but on sharing:

• “And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.” (Matthew 26.26-29).

What the disciples should do in remembrance of Jesus is to share what the Lord gave them.
And note that no wine was used, but grape juice.

Grape juice! LOL That was a good one.

 

[hornetguy]

The emphasis is not on eating and drinking, but on sharing:

• “And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.” (Matthew 26.26-29).

What the disciples should do in remembrance of Jesus is to share what the Lord gave them.
And note that no wine was used, but grape juice.

Oh my goodness.... I suppose every other reference in scripture to the fruit of the vine is Welch's grape juice, too?

Silliness...

But, then... we've already been through that harangue.... ad nauseum.

edit..... actually.... it could have been tomato juice they used, right? Tomatoes grow on a vine... or watermelon juice.

 

[Petratical]

Right, as there is a "progression" if one looks closely. First weak, then sickly, then finally, death. Kinda like God telling Adam and Eve, that the day you eat of the tree of Knowledge of good and evil, you shall die. They died spiritually that day, but physical death came hundreds of years later. The word say God is, "slow to anger, and of great kindness" Joel 2:13. No, we could never say for sure ones death is due to this cause. But if it is, as the scripture indicates chastisement, it will be reviled to such a one being exercised of it, for sure. For God chastens for effect only, the very effect that love does, as God chastens those he loves, Hebrews 12:6. "Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby." Hebrews 12:11.
Some teach, and incorrectly, that chastening is merely,"teaching", yet there is both "chastening, and scourging" Hebrews 12:6. Scourging, where the "grievous" part comes from. Thanks