The Mystery Of The Bible Revealed
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Perhaps we ought to leave it here for the time being, the thing is the Israelites followed multiple gods. The true God said not to kill (murder), while the false gods were satanic and Satan is the harbinger of death.
I don't feel we should confuse the I AM who is Jesus with these false gods. The true God is not a god of death, the I AM (Jesus) is a God of Love, Light and Life as we know and this is why we love him.
I don't feel we should confuse the I AM who is Jesus with these false gods. The true God is not a god of death, the I AM (Jesus) is a God of Love, Light and Life as we know and this is why we love him.
Some are called to be pastors in a church, some are called to be worshiper, but you say this is only lip service? don't forget how powerful words are;] and yes i guess some of us are internet warrior, we can reach people all around the world in this forum
The commandment not to murder means we are not to take it upon ourselves to end somebody's life. That doesn't mean God can't take it upon Himself to cleanse the land of evil, and use His people to do so. The difference isn't in the killing but in Who's calling the shots.
Your words are blaspheme; I hope you say them to make a point, and not from the heart.
Your words are blaspheme; I hope you say them to make a point, and not from the heart.
Let me ask you a hypothetical question. Canaan was a foreign land to the Israelites and they claimed God told them to invade the land and kill all the inhabitants.
"President Bush claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians."
Bush: God Told Me to Invade Iraq
Bearing in mind that God used his creation of nature to further his will as seen in the Flood, the plagues in Egypt, the parting of the Red Sea for example and bearing in mind that the sixth commandment tells us not to kill, do you think the Israelites and the American nation were right to commit mass murder or do you think they were lying to achieve their own ends?
Also, as both nations claimed they were doing "God's Will" do you think the title "False Prophets" is an apt one, bearing in mind God could have used nature, perhaps in the form of a lightening bolt to kill Saddam Hussein to achieve the same end without the massive loss of life?
Please explain how an unchanging God could command us not to kill on the one hand, yet on the other hand the same God tells man to kill thousands or even millions of people?
Just asking a question.
Thank you in advance for your reply.
"President Bush claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians."
Bush: God Told Me to Invade Iraq
Bearing in mind that God used his creation of nature to further his will as seen in the Flood, the plagues in Egypt, the parting of the Red Sea for example and bearing in mind that the sixth commandment tells us not to kill, do you think the Israelites and the American nation were right to commit mass murder or do you think they were lying to achieve their own ends?
Also, as both nations claimed they were doing "God's Will" do you think the title "False Prophets" is an apt one, bearing in mind God could have used nature, perhaps in the form of a lightening bolt to kill Saddam Hussein to achieve the same end without the massive loss of life?
Please explain how an unchanging God could command us not to kill on the one hand, yet on the other hand the same God tells man to kill thousands or even millions of people?
Just asking a question.
Thank you in advance for your reply.
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That is correct, scripture is true which is why we need to heed the warnings within scripture.
Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
This is why we need to: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2Tim 2: 15
Jeremiah 14:14 Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.
Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
This is why we need to: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2Tim 2: 15
Jeremiah 14:14 Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.
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2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is breathed out by God and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness. (ESV)
So your saying that if all scripture is breathed out by God, that satan can still make his way into the Bible? If these are God's words, He would tell us if it was a false prophet. Every other time in the Bible He does. As God, He wouldn't stand for people to say He said something He didn't. There are many things in the Bible we can't comprehend, but that doesn't mean it's not true.
2 Peter 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
So your saying that if all scripture is breathed out by God, that satan can still make his way into the Bible? If these are God's words, He would tell us if it was a false prophet. Every other time in the Bible He does. As God, He wouldn't stand for people to say He said something He didn't. There are many things in the Bible we can't comprehend, but that doesn't mean it's not true.
2 Peter 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
We were discussing things like this that speak of two LORDS and one of the Lords is an idol, but I think it is best we leave it. The Bible is true, but I'm not sure the people were.
Exo 32:5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
Exo 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
Exo 32:7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
Exo 32:5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
Exo 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
Exo 32:7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
God created a world and humans, intending all to live in abundance and forever. Within a few generations of Adam, most of those humans chose sin and death. God did not kill them, sin killed them. God sent the flood, saved a man who knew Him from that flood and started over again, deciding to use training of man to live. He created a race to receive that training starting the race with Abraham.
It was a bumpy road for God to get the training accepted. We all have a bible that gives a lot of the history of the training, and we are meant to listen and learn from it, too. God gave us Christ, too. When it looked as if people bent on sin had to be gotten rid of so the people God was training in life could go on, God said that those of life should protect themselves.
We cannot trust our carnal intellect to judge God's actions to be for love and life, but you can absolutely depend on God's decrees and actions for love and life. When we think we are right and God wrong, best to get on your knees and in your study, and snap to it.
It was a bumpy road for God to get the training accepted. We all have a bible that gives a lot of the history of the training, and we are meant to listen and learn from it, too. God gave us Christ, too. When it looked as if people bent on sin had to be gotten rid of so the people God was training in life could go on, God said that those of life should protect themselves.
We cannot trust our carnal intellect to judge God's actions to be for love and life, but you can absolutely depend on God's decrees and actions for love and life. When we think we are right and God wrong, best to get on your knees and in your study, and snap to it.
Bearing in mind the teaching of Jesus who said not to store up treasure on earth but in heaven, and bearing in mind Jewish law that says not to charge usury (to each other), bearing in mind the worlds bankers are Jews like the Rothschilds and Sachs Goldman & Co. and bearing in mind the state of the world economy and the fact the Americans are providing arms to Israel, it is the Jews who need to get down on their knees and get right with God for God is most certainly not wrong in his dealing with them.