The (New) Apostles Speak

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Take ye out of the book of the Lord and read. Come and let us reason together.
 
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But,but,but where did any of the writers of scripture say that God would be doing something "new" in the NT? I are confused. (Or perhaps someone else is trying to confuse me) :confused:

Oh so your "one of them"?

Dead bible folk?
Amos 3:7 KJVSurely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets

I spose you even believe this then:
Mt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Hmm, well see if you get your bloodline cleansed then
:por your own "glory realm" mantle.
 

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Abiding: Your concordance will not help you with understanding the CHARACTER of God. That is only for understanding the meaning of words, like a dictionary.
"activation" activation is to initiate a specific act or ministry through someone "move you into" God will get you into position to carry out His mandate "people will wear a glory realm People will exude the love, kindness, goodness of God...which is His glory "move you into a manifestation of wearing who I AM" He will place you in position in which you are to (again) exude Christ...wear Christ so that all others can see.

"the figleaf is activated into a network of bloodlines" "i will purify bloodlines" "many will come for the purification process"! This is not beyond understanding! Every person's bloodline is tainted throught generational sin and iniquity. Chuck is saying that God is saying that He is going to do some cleansing (all things are possible, don't forget!) of the blood in people SO that they can carry out His mandates.
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forget the Concordance maggie.
show me any of that newspeak from the scriptures.

oh...the scriptures are not the final authority.
the new Apostles are - so anything NEW goes.

any idea what happens to a person who speaks First Person Voice verbatim claiming it is God speaking directly through them?

your proposal that it's okay for a prophet who claims God is channeling His Own voice directly through them ["I say to you....I am going to.....I will.....I this or that"] is allowed to get it wrong is a damnable heresy.
 
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Oh so your "one of them"?

Dead bible folk?
Amos 3:7 KJVSurely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets

I spose you even believe this then:
Mt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Hmm, well see if you get your bloodline cleansed then
:por your own "glory realm" mantle.
I don't know I thought the reason we were given the written word was so that we would not be led astray. If it doesn't line up with scripture could it perhaps be that there may just be a bit of a problem? :p
 
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forget the Concordance maggie.
show me any of that newspeak from the scriptures.

oh...the scriptures are not the final authority.
the new Apostles are - so anything NEW goes.


any idea what happens to a person who speaks First Person Voice verbatim claiming it is God speaking directly through them?

your proposal that it's okay for a prophet who claims God is channeling His Own voice directly through them ["I say to you....I am going to.....I will.....I this or that"] is allowed to get it wrong is a damnable heresy.


MEMO to zone:

Used to be heresy. This stuff is "NEW" remember? God is doing a new thing like never before.
Are you "denying the power thereof"?
 
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If the word doesn't come to pass, that is a word the Lord has not spoken. Even Jesus said the end would come within a generation (40 years) and that was 2000 years ago Ps. 22:30. Just because a prophet has spoken presumptuously doesn't mean his whole message should be disregarded.
 

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MEMO to zone:

Used to be heresy. This stuff is "NEW" remember? God is doing a new thing like never before.
Are you "denying the power thereof"?

yes, i want something NEW.

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I don't know I thought the reason we were given the written word was so that we would not be led astray. If it doesn't line up with scripture could it perhaps be that there may just be a bit of a problem? :p

Well i rekon if Jesus said the Holyspirit would never speak of Himself. And you believe that.
Then see if "YOU" get any new stuff.

Doesnt a "Glory mantle interest you"? At all? How about all the Kingdoms of this world?
wait thats a little much and didnt work the last time.

Hmm i give up for a season with you:(


2 Peter 1:12So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you ​NOW have. 13I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.15And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember these things.16We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”[SUP]a[/SUP] 18We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.19And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. 21For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
 
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Well i rekon if Jesus said the Holyspirit would never speak of Himself. And you believe that.
Then see if "YOU" get any new stuff.

Doesnt a "Glory mantle interest you"? At all? How about all the Kingdoms of this world?
wait thats a little much and didnt work the last time.

Hmm i give up for a season with you:(


2 Peter 1:12So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have. 13I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.15And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember these things.16We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”[SUP]a[/SUP] 18We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.19And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. 21For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
Hey wait a second wasn't Jesus offered all the Kingdoms of the world by Satan?

Matthew 4

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.[SUP]9 [/SUP]“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.

HMMMMM Wonder if we are suppose to take a hint here?
:rolleyes:
 
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HMMM Didn't Jesus also say that His kingdom was NOT of this world? And what in the heck would I do with with all the Kingdoms of this world anyways? (I have a hard enough time with my own life. You don't want me with all the kingdoms of this world. A sure disaster in the making.) :p
 
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Hey wait a second wasn't Jesus offered all the Kingdoms of the world by Satan?

Matthew 4

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.[SUP]9 [/SUP]“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.

HMMMMM Wonder if we are suppose to take a hint here?
:rolleyes:
K forget the kingdom thingy....how about some "Glory"?
The "New" mantles this year come in three styles and all colors.
But you have to hurry. Dont be a doubting thomas!:cool:
 
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Hah,But He never promised us to see that glory in this life. He promises it only when we go home and He glorifies our bodies. :)
 
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Hah,But He never promised us to see that glory in this life. He promises it only when we go home and He glorifies our bodies. :)
Exactly it says we will be to the "praise" of "His" glory.
Who from the beginning wanted his own "Glory"?
Same ole stuff, since eve.
 
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The lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life
is all these guys peddle.
 

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Hey wait a second wasn't Jesus offered all the Kingdoms of the world by Satan?

Matthew 4

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.[SUP]9 [/SUP]“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.

HMMMMM Wonder if we are suppose to take a hint here?
:rolleyes:

2 Timothy 4:18
The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Matthew 13
The Parable of the Weeds Explained

36 Then he left the crowds and went into the house. And his disciples came to him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds of the field.” 37 He answered, “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed is the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the close of the age, and the reapers are angels. 40 Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the close of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, 42 and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.

Mark 10
28 Peter began to say to him, “See, we have left everything and followed you.” 29 Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, 30 who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions, and in the age to come eternal life.

Hebrews 9:11
When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation.

Hebrews 11:10
For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.

Hebrews 11:16
Instead, they were longing for a better country--a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

Hebrews 12:22
But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly

Revelation 21
The New Heaven and the New Earth

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. 4He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”
 
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K forget the kingdom thingy....how about some "Glory"?
The "New" mantles this year come in three styles and all colors.
But you have to hurry. Dont be a doubting thomas!:cool:
Ur killin' me over here! :)
 
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Zone if I had NEVER put a smile on your face tonight I will....
You keep an eye on the N.A.R.,,,, Well a NAR in Afrikaans is a CLOWN! So there, SMILE!
 
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Zone if I had NEVER put a smile on your face tonight I will....
You keep an eye on the N.A.R.,,,, Well a NAR in Afrikaans is a CLOWN! So there, SMILE!
Same here, but some prefer a circus over a church that glorifies a Savior and builds up the saints.
 

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According to this groups writings they are "New" as far as Apostles and Prophets go.

They even admit that church had a history of cessation. Which should have really shocked
their followers:eek:

In this "new" "thing" they say God is doing far exceeds what the original Apostles did.
So therefore they cant be held to the bible. Because God is doing something "new"
In one book it says to question them is equivilent to the unforgivable sin:p
So Sarah youll have to find someone to pray for you to open your eyes...since i see
you have "God in a box":rolleyes:
'They can't be held to the bible'?
In a word ...C-U-L-T