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Sure glad I didn't have that attitude when a Catholic....
no doubt my friend, the catholic religion is one messed up origination, do you know they built a whole doctrine of praying to Mary and saints etc, out of the wedding at Cana because Mary ask Jesus to make more wine, they think that was Mary being compassionate towards people, so now if your Catholic one must ask Mary as a Intercessor to Jesus, bazar to say the least.

they don't even realize the wedding was of a family member that's why Mary wanted the wedding reception to go smoothly.
 
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no doubt my friend, the catholic religion is one messed up origination, do you know they built a whole doctrine of praying to Mary and saints etc, out of the wedding at Cana because Mary ask Jesus to make more wine, they think that was Mary being compassionate towards people, so now if your Catholic one must ask Mary as a Intercessor to Jesus, bazar to say the least.

they don't even realize the wedding was of a family member that's why Mary wanted the wedding reception to go smoothly.
Of COURSE!
I WAS an idiot Catholic!

Familiar with "Transubstantiation'?

If not look it up, but use the bathroom first, so you have no accident!
 

phil36

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Hi the question,

I suppose you would have to agree that God is one? There is none beside?
 
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Of COURSE!
I WAS an idiot Catholic!

Familiar with "Transubstantiation'?

If not look it up, but use the bathroom first, so you have no accident!
Hahaha, the only thing I'd like to ask is this, do believe in Jesus and all He stands for?
 
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Hi the question,
I suppose you would have to agree that God is one? There is none beside?
Sigh.
C'mon Phil- don't use such stale church tricks when we were, I THINK, having sincere discussion!
He told Israel there were no Gods besides him- because they were starting to worship the imaginary Gods of the surrounding nations.

Was Moses and Jesus and the Judges of Israel False Gods?
Jesus said his Father is the ONLY true God.


Have any other definitions to "ONLY"?
 
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Hahaha, the only thing I'd like to ask is this, do believe in Jesus and all He stands for?
With all my Being, my friend!
Or I wouldn't be spending so much time preaching!
I know YOU do- but are you willing to ...QUESTION what your church has taught you?
 

phil36

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Sigh.
C'mon Phil- don't use such stale church tricks when we were, I THINK, having sincere discussion!
He told Israel there were no Gods besides him- because they were starting to worship the imaginary Gods of the surrounding nations.

Was Moses and Jesus and the Judges of Israel False Gods?
Jesus said his Father is the ONLY true God.


Have any other definitions to "ONLY"?

Good so you agree that there is only one god. So the one true God is the only Saviour? you surely cannot disagree as the scripture testifies to it.

Isaiah 45:21-22New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

21 Declare what is to be, present it –
let them take counsel together.
Who foretold this long ago,
who declared it from the distant past?
Was it not I, the Lord?
And there is no God apart from me,
a righteous God and a Saviour;
there is none but me.

22 ‘Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends of the earth;
for I am God, and there is no other.

 
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With all my Being, my friend!
Or I wouldn't be spending so much time preaching!
I know YOU do- but are you willing to ...QUESTION what your church has taught you?
That is wonderful my friend, the things I preach is not taught in any physical church, what I learn is from a spiritual church. :)

though I certainly learn of things through others, for My God teaches me sometimes that way and what a joy it is to learn that way.
 
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Good so you agree that there is only one god. So the one true God is the only Saviour? you surely cannot disagree as the scripture testifies to it.

Isaiah 45:21-22New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

21 Declare what is to be, present it –
let them take counsel together.
Who foretold this long ago,
who declared it from the distant past?
Was it not I, the Lord?
And there is no God apart from me,
a righteous God and a Saviour;
there is none but me.

22 ‘Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends of the earth;
for I am God, and there is no other.



Please READ my reply, so that I don't have to re-type it.
 

DayVerlo

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The Question.
You forget something.

The Relationship.

For thou you speak and do amazing things, Without Love, you are but Empty.

So what is a relationship? When there is more than one thing, this is a relationship.
When there is only one thing, nothing. Emptiness.

So in pointing out the wrong in Church, please never forget the right.
For without this Churchianity, you'd not have known any of this reality you so denounce.

We are Each in a Personal Relationship with God. AND. God is in a Relationship with those that Love and Serve Him.
 
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That is wonderful my friend, the things I preach is not taught in any physical church, what I learn is from a spiritual church. :)

though I certainly learn of things through others, for My God teaches me sometimes that way and what a joy it is to learn that way.
Agreed.
Yet man often teaches things not true; even those in MY 'church'...
I know most of what your does is ALSO not true.
 
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The Question.
You forget something.

The Relationship.

For thou you speak and do amazing things, Without Love, you are but Empty.

So what is a relationship? When there is more than one thing, this is a relationship.
When there is only one thing, nothing. Emptiness.

So in pointing out the wrong in Church, please never forget the right.
For without this Churchianity, you'd not have known any of this reality you so denounce.

We are Each in a Personal Relationship with God. AND. God is in a Relationship with those that Love and Serve Him.
Excellent POINT, Dayverlo- yet Jesus said we MUST worship with spirit (zeal) and TRUTH.
So, if you ARE in this "relationship"- you will QUICKLY discard the dogma of men that are not true.
 

Endoscopy

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Jesus never mentioned scriptures as the bible, the proper name for the book is

the book of scriptures.
The Old Testament was referred to in the New Testament as the scriptures. Otherwise the name of the book was given. There were other documents that were considered historical but not inspired by God. The books of Maccabees for example.. At the time of Jesus the Jews excluded them from the level of scripture and the books of the Old Testament were considered from God. The New Testament books were considered canon by 150 AD by various elders of the Christians and by 250 AD all elders accepted the New Testament we have today. It took that long for all books to be spread to all elders.

There is a fact about the books considered scripture that most people don't understand. They are self proving. Facts about how people dressed, the houses they lived in, vegatation, etc. prove the time and place they were written. One fake gospel was found to be written in Spain around 600 AD. For a forger to create a document that passes all of these details that person must have all of that information available to them and not make any error in using these details in what they wrote. A task that has not been accomplished. The Gospel of Thomas for example failed this test.
 

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With all my Being, my friend!
Or I wouldn't be spending so much time preaching!
I know YOU do- but are you willing to ...QUESTION what your church has taught you?
All decent God fearing ministers, preachers, priests, or whatever you want to call them tell their congregation to verify what they preach against what the Bible states. They know they are prone to error like all human beings. Therefore they want feedback for any failure. A minister of a church once apologized for a misstatement he made and corrected himsel to the congregation.
 

phil36

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Please READ my reply, so that I don't have to re-type it.

Hi thequestion,

I agree there no other god's beside the one true God. Moses wasn't God, neither where the judges God - we will get to Jesus in a minute.

Listen to what the One true God says about himself, remember himself and no one or anything else.

"And there is no God apart from me,
a righteous God and a Saviour;
there is none but me."

God makes the claim that He alone (God not god) Is the one true God and Saviour. And then he states this:

"
‘Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends of the earth;
for I am God, and there is no other."

So only by turning to the one true God not gods can anyone be saved. There is no other god/s.

Would you agree thus far? that there is only one true God, and only can save. Without denying the text you would have to say this is true? remember here we are only talking about the One true God and Saviour, just as the text states.

Have a read of this next text:

Matt 9:1-8,

[FONT=&quot]9 Jesus stepped into a boat, crossed over and came to his own town. 2 Some men brought to him a paralysed man, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, ‘Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.’[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, ‘This fellow is blaspheming!’[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, ‘Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? 5 Which is easier: to say, “Your sins are forgiven,” or to say, “Get up and walk”? 6 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.’ So he said to the paralysed man, ‘Get up, take your mat and go home.’ 7 Then the man got up and went home. 8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.[/FONT]
 
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All decent God fearing ministers, preachers, priests, or whatever you want to call them tell their congregation to verify what they preach against what the Bible states. They know they are prone to error like all human beings. Therefore they want feedback for any failure. A minister of a church once apologized for a misstatement he made and corrected himsel to the congregation.

Then why not all those CLAIMING to be Christians here and at other forums?
 
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Hi thequestion,

I agree there no other god's beside the one true God. Moses wasn't God, neither where the judges God - we will get to Jesus in a minute.

Listen to what the One true God says about himself, remember himself and no one or anything else.

"And there is no God apart from me,
a righteous God and a Saviour;
there is none but me."

God makes the claim that He alone (God not god) Is the one true God and Saviour. And then he states this:

"
‘Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends of the earth;
for I am God, and there is no other."

So only by turning to the one true God not gods can anyone be saved. There is no other god/s.

Would you agree thus far? that there is only one true God, and only can save. Without denying the text you would have to say this is true? remember here we are only talking about the One true God and Saviour, just as the text states.

Have a read of this next text:

Matt 9:1-8,

9 Jesus stepped into a boat, crossed over and came to his own town. 2 Some men brought to him a paralysed man, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, ‘Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.’
3 At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, ‘This fellow is blaspheming!’
4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, ‘Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? 5 Which is easier: to say, “Your sins are forgiven,” or to say, “Get up and walk”? 6 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.’ So he said to the paralysed man, ‘Get up, take your mat and go home.’ 7 Then the man got up and went home. 8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.


There are no upper/lower cases in the biblical languages; adding caps is a common abuse.

John 1:1 reads "the word was with the god, and the word was god'.
"Holy Ghost" is a blatant mistranslation.
"Holy Spirit" is "holy spirit"- the caps added to give the impression that it is a God-Being.
Jesus is God's son, adding the cap ("Son") is for the same deception.

God GAVE Jesus that authority.
AND he often SAID that.

And, just as Jesus said, his Father (Jehovah) is the ONLY true God; Jesus isn't; he represents Him as Moses once did in Egypt.
 

trofimus

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There are no upper/lower cases in the biblical languages; adding caps is a common abuse.

John 1:1 reads "the word was with the god, and the word was god'.
"Holy Ghost" is a blatant mistranslation.
"Holy Spirit" is "holy spirit"- the caps added to give the impression that it is a God-Being.
Jesus is God's son, adding the cap ("Son") is for the same deception.

God GAVE Jesus that authority.
AND he often SAID that.

And, just as Jesus said, his Father (Jehovah) is the ONLY true God; Jesus isn't; he represents Him as Moses once did in Egypt.
If you care so much about small things like caps, why do you use "Jehovah" when this word is NEVER used in the Bible?