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I don't think you understand. This is not a matter of choice. I cannot choose to believe the world is flat or that the sun orbits the earth. The evidence all shows that these beliefs are wrong. Do you think that you can simply choose to believe in an earth centric solar system and a flat earth? Can you simply choose to alter your perceptions and accept the reality of an archaic belief system, or would you need evidence?
You have very seriously watered down what it means to be religious. I guess for my brother-in-law motorcycles are his religion. Perhaps genealogy is my religion, eh? Really though, what you're saying is that absence of belief in what you believe should be construed as religion. That type of logic seems flawed.
Hi JL,
If you posses faith then you are already a believer and you are not asking the big question. This is why atheists are forever asking for evidence. As I tried to explain to Tinkerbell, I can't just choose to believe the earth is flat. I need confirmation. Without prior belief one needs evidence to make decisions about what to believe.
If you posses faith then you are already a believer and you are not asking the big question. This is why atheists are forever asking for evidence. As I tried to explain to Tinkerbell, I can't just choose to believe the earth is flat. I need confirmation. Without prior belief one needs evidence to make decisions about what to believe.
It is not evidence for anything, I'm afraid. If you want to understand why I am here you need only to ask. Guess work has led you down the wrong path.
“Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God.” – Martin Luther
“Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God.” – Martin Luther
Canada observes a Thanksgiving Day in October. The USA observes a Thanksgiving Day in November.
The many millions of people who have given thanks on those holidays for many years have seen evidence that there was someone to thank for life, breath, water, food and other blessings.
Please excuse me but I think that atheist errs by apparently counting nothing as a blessing bestowed and finding neither cause for which to give thanks nor a god to whom to give thanks.
The many millions of people who have given thanks on those holidays for many years have seen evidence that there was someone to thank for life, breath, water, food and other blessings.
Please excuse me but I think that atheist errs by apparently counting nothing as a blessing bestowed and finding neither cause for which to give thanks nor a god to whom to give thanks.
It's not that we don't like atheists, it's that you're rubbing us the wrong way, in a way that is very apparent to you so bother asking how you're doing it. What makes screwing around with us or venting at us so enjoyable considering you don't even know us? Save any excuses about why you're not doing what I said.
Please speak for yourself.
Personally, I am very glad that Cycel has been here and continued to be here. Cycel, please be assured that this is true. Penknight, you are not the first to dispense rejection. I have been helped multiple times over multiple months. We can learn many things from other people that we would not easily learn in isolation and this has happened for me here.
Freedom is a wonderful thing. Rather than forbidding others, I think that we all benefit when often thoughtful and respectful individuals exercise bounded liberty and freedom of expression.
Personally, I am very glad that Cycel has been here and continued to be here. Cycel, please be assured that this is true. Penknight, you are not the first to dispense rejection. I have been helped multiple times over multiple months. We can learn many things from other people that we would not easily learn in isolation and this has happened for me here.
Freedom is a wonderful thing. Rather than forbidding others, I think that we all benefit when often thoughtful and respectful individuals exercise bounded liberty and freedom of expression.
Do you consider Cycel a friend?
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
(KJV)
Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness? (NLT)
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
(KJV)
Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness? (NLT)
W
Just on a side note:
Where did you get the idea that atheists or anyone else not following Jesus (having Him as their Lord and Savior) are "the children of God"? That is not biblical:
John 1:12-13
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Rom 9:8
That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.
Where did you get the idea that atheists or anyone else not following Jesus (having Him as their Lord and Savior) are "the children of God"? That is not biblical:
John 1:12-13
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Rom 9:8
That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.