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Explain this verse then. I read it as - through the blood of Jesus WE have access to the holiest place because his body (the veil) being rent REMOVED the barrier between us and the most holy place.
Hebrews 10:19-20 KJV
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
[20] By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Hebrews 10:19-20 KJV
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
[20] By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Let's take a look here:
Matt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus has not separated the main commandments from the least, the jots and tittles - Jesus did not make a distinction.
To claim that Jesus at the cross fulfilled the law and then turn around and claim the "jots and tittles" still remain to be fulfilled is not consistent with what Jesus said.
These "jots and tittles" were part and parcel of the whole law of the Old Covenant which was nigh unto passing when Hebrews was written.
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
The temple that was still existing was of significance while it stood:
Heb 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
The above is significant in regards to the book of revelation:
Rev 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
We know from Hebrews that indeed Christ entered in, but no other man was able to enter in "while as the first tabernacle was yet standing".
After the sack of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple and the end of the old covenant in 70 AD man was able to enter in.
Matt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus has not separated the main commandments from the least, the jots and tittles - Jesus did not make a distinction.
To claim that Jesus at the cross fulfilled the law and then turn around and claim the "jots and tittles" still remain to be fulfilled is not consistent with what Jesus said.
These "jots and tittles" were part and parcel of the whole law of the Old Covenant which was nigh unto passing when Hebrews was written.
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
The temple that was still existing was of significance while it stood:
Heb 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
The above is significant in regards to the book of revelation:
Rev 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
We know from Hebrews that indeed Christ entered in, but no other man was able to enter in "while as the first tabernacle was yet standing".
After the sack of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple and the end of the old covenant in 70 AD man was able to enter in.
Keep reading further in Hebrews and you will see when man was able to enter. His flesh was rent and we were at that point able to enter in.
Hebrews 10:19-20 KJV
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
[20] By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Hebrews 10:19-20 KJV
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
[20] By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Hebrews 9:8-9 KJV
The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
[9] Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
The old temple was a figure of that PRESENT time... when the real temple came, the old temple no longer stood. You guys are taking "standing" to mean that it's not been torn down but standing means that is no longer standing in it's postion as a figure because the real had come.
The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
[9] Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
The old temple was a figure of that PRESENT time... when the real temple came, the old temple no longer stood. You guys are taking "standing" to mean that it's not been torn down but standing means that is no longer standing in it's postion as a figure because the real had come.
Exactly, I agree 100%. And since God is longsuffering not wishing that any perish (in Jerusalem) He gave them 40 years to be instructed by that church and come to salvation.
The point I was making was, the writer of Hebrews goes on to tell us that the first covenant was made obsolete by Christ and was in the process of fading away. The process of fading away was complete on 9 AV 70 AD.
The point I was making was, the writer of Hebrews goes on to tell us that the first covenant was made obsolete by Christ and was in the process of fading away. The process of fading away was complete on 9 AV 70 AD.
Can you locate the four corners of the globe for me?
Are you that uneducated?
Or just unable to think outside the box?
SEE THE EXTREMES YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO JUSTIFY YOUR FALSE BELIEFS.
Nort Pole
South Pole
ZERO DEGREES LONGITUDE AND AND LATITUDE AT THE EQUATOR
AND 180 DEGREES LONGITUDE AND 0 DEGREES LATITUDE AT THE EQUATOR.
THOSE ARE YOUR FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. IT IS ALSO AN EXPRESSION MEANING EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
I wouldn't disagree with this 1066, the application was one for the living - the dead in Hades were not able to "enter in" while the physical temple was standing.
On the physical temple's destruction the "dead" saints were able to enter in.
And PLW mentioned his return would "not tarry":
Heb 10:37 For yet a little while (Greek - micron), and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
G3397 mikron mik-ron'
a small space of time or degree.
This is a significant verse that is often overlooked in futurist theologies.
His coming was in one part in judgement and destruction of temple (not one stone) when the old covenant passed with it's jots and tittles.
Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
The "all things" included the jots and tittles..
On the physical temple's destruction the "dead" saints were able to enter in.
And PLW mentioned his return would "not tarry":
Heb 10:37 For yet a little while (Greek - micron), and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
G3397 mikron mik-ron'
a small space of time or degree.
This is a significant verse that is often overlooked in futurist theologies.
His coming was in one part in judgement and destruction of temple (not one stone) when the old covenant passed with it's jots and tittles.
Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
The "all things" included the jots and tittles..
Can't go along with you on that one my friend. The 6th trumpet was called, "plagues (of) fire, smoke and brimstone." That doesn't sound like a bunch of people accepting Christ. It sounds like what happened after Titus broke through the last wall and torched the whole place.
If my math is correct, Titus would have killed about 49,000, thus sparing 98,000 to take back to Rome.
If my math is correct, Titus would have killed about 49,000, thus sparing 98,000 to take back to Rome.
KJV again - look at this in Young's Literal which does a far better job at the Greek tense:
Heb 9:9 which is a simile in regard to the present time, in which both gifts and sacrifices are offered, which are not able, in regard to conscience, to make perfect him who is serving,
NASB and the NIV have translated this as "present time".
Gifts and sacrifices were being offered during Christ's time on earth so Hebrews is correctly understood as "present time" . He's comparing the then standing temple with the temple built without hands.
Matt 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Heb 9:9 which is a simile in regard to the present time, in which both gifts and sacrifices are offered, which are not able, in regard to conscience, to make perfect him who is serving,
NASB and the NIV have translated this as "present time".
Gifts and sacrifices were being offered during Christ's time on earth so Hebrews is correctly understood as "present time" . He's comparing the then standing temple with the temple built without hands.
Matt 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
The Cross - the making of the new covenant
AD 70 - the "restoration of all things" and passing of the old covenant
Incidentally, both required action from Christ.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, [SUP]20 [/SUP]and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, [SUP]21 [/SUP]whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
The resurrection of the saints was not at the cross, but this gets tricky...1 Thess 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
The old saints and those that died prior to his coming as Paul said are sleeping:
1 Thess 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
So wherever you place this coming is where the resurrection is, it wasn't the cross.
Heb 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Thessalonians and Hebrews are speaking of the same event.