The Role of the Woman
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I think she's meaning head of household dominate. Like he makes all the final decisions, because that's the man supposed to lead. She obviously has input. I don't think she's meaning dominate like "Take me. I'm all yours. I want to serve you in any and every way." Like the women in the Middle East that unfortunately don't have self worth. I think what sister Marieh said is being misinterpreted.
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well, you know, they do sell Barbies
I just don't like teaching that appears biblical but is, in fact, not biblical
it appears you liken women who disagree with this teaching to feminists.....I personally like men...I would not want to be not married...women do have brains though and for some odd reason, God treats us as good as He treats men...in fact, he tells husbands to love their wives sacrificially...not make them into a whore in the bedroom and a servant in the house and a frump in public.
I don't know who these feminists are that you want to pound sand...but this teaching regarding women is not the only off color teaching this church produces...they believe they have perfect truth...well what erroneous church doesn't think that?
sounds like someone really hurt you...sorry...but that does not make all women who do not see a biblical mandate in the op evil or man haters
Thanks for your objectivity...said tongue in cheek
I just don't like teaching that appears biblical but is, in fact, not biblical
it appears you liken women who disagree with this teaching to feminists.....I personally like men...I would not want to be not married...women do have brains though and for some odd reason, God treats us as good as He treats men...in fact, he tells husbands to love their wives sacrificially...not make them into a whore in the bedroom and a servant in the house and a frump in public.
I don't know who these feminists are that you want to pound sand...but this teaching regarding women is not the only off color teaching this church produces...they believe they have perfect truth...well what erroneous church doesn't think that?
sounds like someone really hurt you...sorry...but that does not make all women who do not see a biblical mandate in the op evil or man haters
Thanks for your objectivity...said tongue in cheek
I do not compare men and women. I read the bible take out what the bible says a role of a woman is and try to apply it to my life. II Corinthians 10:12, "For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and COMPARING THEMSELVES AMONG THEMSELVES, ARE NOT WISE."
God did not make Eve from one of Adam’s foot bones, for Adam to trample over; nor did He make Eve from a bone of Adam’s head, for her to rule over the man. God made Eve from a bone right out of man’s side a help meet at his side
No men and women are not equal (being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value) and they are not meant to be men and women each have different qualities that make them needed and important. That does not mean the should not be equal in the work force or in the eyes of the law.
God did not make Eve from one of Adam’s foot bones, for Adam to trample over; nor did He make Eve from a bone of Adam’s head, for her to rule over the man. God made Eve from a bone right out of man’s side a help meet at his side
No men and women are not equal (being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value) and they are not meant to be men and women each have different qualities that make them needed and important. That does not mean the should not be equal in the work force or in the eyes of the law.
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I am not taking offense, but you really do not know what I have been through and I have had responsibilities since a young age that most don't even have to deal with and so I have always been more mature than others my age. Granted, I am not married and God created me this way for a purpose. In all my friendships and relationships I have always taken the submissive approach and I don't feel that is wrong. Now, I realize marriage is different. I hope you don't think I am a pushover because I stand up for what I believe in and almost got suspended because I took a stand on abortion being murder. I don't really think there is anything wrong with how I see things. I do apologize if I sound harsh, but I know that I am allowing God to mold me into what he wants for my life.
So Blain and I were PMing and I asked him how his previous message relates to women. He was able to put in to words what I was thinking but never able to put in to words for so long. Here's the main part of it:
"It relates to women because you have to think of how God sees women not what you think scripture says about them. It's literally all about who's eyes you are looking through."
This is so crucial. Please take a minute and ask yourself, how does God see women? I would like answers here. Honest ones. How God sees women and what we THINK scripture says about them are pretty opposite.
Esther
Deborah
Ruth
Mary (Jesus's mom)
Mary Magdalene
Lydia
Are just a few. How does the Bible portray these women? Not as weak or feeble. There is a point in the book of Esther where she literally says, "If I perish, I perish." That takes strength and guts. Esther was no submissive little house wife. She was strong.
And Ruth she could have gone off to another husband but she stayed with Naomi. How is that weak?
Look at Proverbs 31
Ephesians 5:25 was written during a time when women had less monetary value than a goat. Women should not have monetary value to begin with. If this was written at a time when men didn't HAVE to love their wives why did God put it in there to begin with??
Genesis 1:27 ..in His image He created them male and female... So he also created women in His image.
Galatians 3:28 If we are all really equal in Christ then why don't we act like it? Why stress male headship? Why not stress Christ-like equality?
People tend to look at women as "the second sex" or "the weaker sex". You can deny it all you want but when you quote certain Bible verses you are instilling in young womens minds that they are not capable or competent.
Can we please look at Gods heart on this one?
"It relates to women because you have to think of how God sees women not what you think scripture says about them. It's literally all about who's eyes you are looking through."
This is so crucial. Please take a minute and ask yourself, how does God see women? I would like answers here. Honest ones. How God sees women and what we THINK scripture says about them are pretty opposite.
Esther
Deborah
Ruth
Mary (Jesus's mom)
Mary Magdalene
Lydia
Are just a few. How does the Bible portray these women? Not as weak or feeble. There is a point in the book of Esther where she literally says, "If I perish, I perish." That takes strength and guts. Esther was no submissive little house wife. She was strong.
And Ruth she could have gone off to another husband but she stayed with Naomi. How is that weak?
Look at Proverbs 31
Ephesians 5:25 was written during a time when women had less monetary value than a goat. Women should not have monetary value to begin with. If this was written at a time when men didn't HAVE to love their wives why did God put it in there to begin with??
Genesis 1:27 ..in His image He created them male and female... So he also created women in His image.
Galatians 3:28 If we are all really equal in Christ then why don't we act like it? Why stress male headship? Why not stress Christ-like equality?
People tend to look at women as "the second sex" or "the weaker sex". You can deny it all you want but when you quote certain Bible verses you are instilling in young womens minds that they are not capable or competent.
Can we please look at Gods heart on this one?
The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it; 2for he founded it on the seas and established it on the waters. Ps 24:1-2
Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” 1 Cor 10:26
"Look, the highest heavens and the earth and everything in it all belong to the LORD your God. Deu 10:14
Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, I will testify against you. I am God, your God (v.7) “If I were hungry, I would not tell you, for the world and its fullness are mine. Ps 50:7, 12
Who is like you, Lord God Almighty? You, Lord, are mighty, and your faithfulness surrounds you. 9You rule over the surging sea; when its waves mount up, you still them. 10You crushed Rahab like one of the slain; with your strong arm you scattered your enemies. 11The heavens are yours, and yours also the earth; you founded the world and all that is in it. Ps 89: 8-11
This is God's world. God owns the world and everything it. However, God has made men and women stewards (managers) of the earth and in the earth.
[HR][/HR]To discover what the Bible says about stewardship, we start with the very first verse: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). As the Creator, God has absolute rights of ownership over all things, and to miss starting here is like misaligning the top button on our shirt or blouse—nothing else will ever line up. Nothing else in the Bible, including the doctrine of stewardship, will make any sense or have any true relevance if we miss the fact that God is the Creator and has full rights of ownership. It is through our ability to fully grasp this and imbed it in our hearts that the doctrine of stewardship is understood.
Stewardship defines our practical obedience in the administration of everything under our control, everything entrusted to us. It is the consecration of one’s self and possessions to God's service. Stewardship acknowledges in practice that we do not have the right of control over ourselves or our property—God has that control. It means as stewards of God we are managers of that which belongs to God, and we are under His constant authority as we administer HIS affairs. Faithful stewardship means that we fully acknowledge we are not our own but belong to Christ, the Lord, who gave Himself for us.
Read more: What is biblical stewardship?
Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” 1 Cor 10:26
"Look, the highest heavens and the earth and everything in it all belong to the LORD your God. Deu 10:14
Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, I will testify against you. I am God, your God (v.7) “If I were hungry, I would not tell you, for the world and its fullness are mine. Ps 50:7, 12
Who is like you, Lord God Almighty? You, Lord, are mighty, and your faithfulness surrounds you. 9You rule over the surging sea; when its waves mount up, you still them. 10You crushed Rahab like one of the slain; with your strong arm you scattered your enemies. 11The heavens are yours, and yours also the earth; you founded the world and all that is in it. Ps 89: 8-11
This is God's world. God owns the world and everything it. However, God has made men and women stewards (managers) of the earth and in the earth.
[HR][/HR]To discover what the Bible says about stewardship, we start with the very first verse: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). As the Creator, God has absolute rights of ownership over all things, and to miss starting here is like misaligning the top button on our shirt or blouse—nothing else will ever line up. Nothing else in the Bible, including the doctrine of stewardship, will make any sense or have any true relevance if we miss the fact that God is the Creator and has full rights of ownership. It is through our ability to fully grasp this and imbed it in our hearts that the doctrine of stewardship is understood.
Stewardship defines our practical obedience in the administration of everything under our control, everything entrusted to us. It is the consecration of one’s self and possessions to God's service. Stewardship acknowledges in practice that we do not have the right of control over ourselves or our property—God has that control. It means as stewards of God we are managers of that which belongs to God, and we are under His constant authority as we administer HIS affairs. Faithful stewardship means that we fully acknowledge we are not our own but belong to Christ, the Lord, who gave Himself for us.
Read more: What is biblical stewardship?
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Listen carefully. Feminism is about gaining power over governments, institutions, societies, and people for the explicit benefit of females. Period.
The present feminist legal contracts being served up by leftist Western governments are voluntary male slave agreements that resemble the ancient slave agreements that existed in antiquity in which a person would voluntarily enslave themselves to an owner. But at least in ancient Israel, a person who had legally enslaved themselves to another would have the opportunity to gain their freedom during the Jubilee.
I'm not "going back to Egypt" as the saying goes. God wants me to be a free man and not a legally contracted and government controlled slave of another person.
The statistics are clear. In leftist Western Civilization, marriage is now in steep decline and non-immigrant birthrates are declining. Wait until male birth control comes to market. Then you'll see the birth rate fall as rapidly as marriage has.
Feminism is about government and societal power over non-females for the benefit of females. Equality is nothing more than a marketing slogan that doesn't align with the reality. Men know it and are increasingly going their own way in droves rather than enter into what amounts to a human slave contract.
Argue all you like, but it's in a steep nose dive now and will eventually crash. It's just a matter of time. Men are increasingly refusing to sign agreements slaving themselves out. Interestingly, the ability of government to continue borrowing and handing out the money to single mothers in the form of welfare and social services will be severely curtailed at about the same time. A severe economic crisis is also taking form down the line. A spectacular socio-political firework show will eventually result complete with riots and possibly revolutionary groups like existed in the 60's. Very exciting stuff. Enjoy it since you helped create it.
The present feminist legal contracts being served up by leftist Western governments are voluntary male slave agreements that resemble the ancient slave agreements that existed in antiquity in which a person would voluntarily enslave themselves to an owner. But at least in ancient Israel, a person who had legally enslaved themselves to another would have the opportunity to gain their freedom during the Jubilee.
I'm not "going back to Egypt" as the saying goes. God wants me to be a free man and not a legally contracted and government controlled slave of another person.
The statistics are clear. In leftist Western Civilization, marriage is now in steep decline and non-immigrant birthrates are declining. Wait until male birth control comes to market. Then you'll see the birth rate fall as rapidly as marriage has.
Feminism is about government and societal power over non-females for the benefit of females. Equality is nothing more than a marketing slogan that doesn't align with the reality. Men know it and are increasingly going their own way in droves rather than enter into what amounts to a human slave contract.
Argue all you like, but it's in a steep nose dive now and will eventually crash. It's just a matter of time. Men are increasingly refusing to sign agreements slaving themselves out. Interestingly, the ability of government to continue borrowing and handing out the money to single mothers in the form of welfare and social services will be severely curtailed at about the same time. A severe economic crisis is also taking form down the line. A spectacular socio-political firework show will eventually result complete with riots and possibly revolutionary groups like existed in the 60's. Very exciting stuff. Enjoy it since you helped create it.
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