The Second Coming of Jesus

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Jun 4, 2014
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So was Paul correct and Jesus was not. Jesus said there will be some standing here who will not die before he returns. He says all these things will happen before THIS generation passes. Not just whichever generation happens to be alive at the time. That completely undermines the words of Jesus.
Paul simply understood what He meant.
 
Dec 12, 2013
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Can you show me which scriptures teach that his second coming will be a visible one? As opposed to people seeing the power and glory resulting from his return? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't know which scriptures to read to verify it.
Jesus said to the Pharisees...Hereafter ye shall SEE the SON of man coming in the clouds with GREAT GLORY

Acts 1...The disciples will see him come with clouds and great glory.

Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13 all talk about his second coming in the clouds with POWER and great GLORY

Revelation like two or three places testify that ALL EYES, ALL TRIBES of the earth, all people who are left shall see him come in the clouds with great glory and power...

I can think of like 6-8 sets of scripture off the top of my head....do you read and or study the bible?

Do you have a concordance as you can look it up cybertech
 
Jul 25, 2013
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Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Fulfilled next chapter ...Mount of transfiguration...some=Peter James, John.

You keep clinging to the preterist view it will land you into a pile of confusion.
It was not fulfilled the next chapter....you don't have it in context. Read verse 27 along with 28, the context is about His second coming, not the transfiguration. Did He repay every man according to their deeds at the transfiguration? No. He hadn't even died on the cross yet. Shoot me if I'm wrong. I may not know alot, but I know some things.

Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. 28"Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
 

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The OP said revelation foretold the destruction of Jerusalem which happened in 70ad/
Funny, most scholars date the writing of Revelation in95 ad. You are putting your eggs in the wrong basket with a 65ad writing of Revelation.

I think its funny that you're "putting all your eggs" in a guessed date based upon a fabricated dating system.
 
May 15, 2013
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It seems to me that the Bible indicates many times that Jesus was going to return in the first century, during the generation of his disciples. It is my opinion, that if Jesus hasn't come back yet, he isn't going to. A lot of people think that Jesus returned in 70 AD, and that Revalation foretold the destruction of Jerusalem as an avenging of the apostles and prophets who were martyred and persecuted. This isn't just a gut feeling or something. It is backed by scripture, which I will provide. Now, I realize some strongly disagree with this, which is why I am posting it on a forum, but please, let me know why (biblically) you think I'm wrong, without throwing around insults. I realize it is a passionate subjuct, but try to keep the enthusiasm positive :)

The scriptural evidence...
Matthew 10:23
“23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”
-Jesus tells his disciples to preach the word in Israel, and to just move on to the next town if they were persecuted, because Jesus would come before they had been to every town in Israel
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Matthew 16:27-28
“27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. 28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
-Jesus says to his disciples that some of the would not die before Jesus “comes in his Kingdom”
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Remember we are all one body, the body that belong to Christ; And so this verse is referring that this one body will have to spread the gospel through out the world before He come. When someone read the scriptures, they must have the Spirit of God in them to translate their meanings.
 
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Jesus said to the Pharisees...Hereafter ye shall SEE the SON of man coming in the clouds with GREAT GLORY

Acts 1...The disciples will see him come with clouds and great glory.

Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13 all talk about his second coming in the clouds with POWER and great GLORY

Revelation like two or three places testify that ALL EYES, ALL TRIBES of the earth, all people who are left shall see him come in the clouds with great glory and power...

I can think of like 6-8 sets of scripture off the top of my head....do you read and or study the bible?

Do you have a concordance as you can look it up cybertech
Yes I study the Bible a lot and I have many resources for finding passages. I just need to know which verses are being referred to by the people I'm discussing with instead of assuming they mean the ones I think of at first. They could be talking about verses that I don't think actually say that, or I could be talking about one that you think means something different than what I think it means. I just think it's good to verify what someone is actually talking about before I start arguing with them.
 
Jul 21, 2014
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Remember we are all one body, the body that belong to Christ; And so this verse is referring that this one body will have to spread the gospel through out the world before He come. When someone read the scriptures, they must have the Spirit of God in them to translate their meanings.
It doesn't say at all what you say it means. Which part of either of these verses say that the gospel must reach everyone in the world before Jesus returns? What I see, is what it actually says, which is that Jesus would return before they reach every town in Israel.
And the second that says some of them would not taste death until Jesus comes in his kingdom.Your interpretation of these passages are not based on the words there, but on the idea you already had about Jesus coming back. If I'm wrong, can you tell me how to get what you're saying out of the words actually in the two passages?