some of the most bizarre tings ive read u see... what
Only Jesus can confirm this truth I have shared with you to you when we take in context what Paul is talking about in regards to what that strong delusion is and how and why it comes about that God would permit it to occur that believe the lie.
2 Thessalonians 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [SUP]
2 [/SUP]That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [SUP]
4 [/SUP]Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Paul is citing 2 events here; the falling away from the faith and then the event when the man of sin be revealed. That means Christ has to deal with both of them in its own time. Note verse 6 as to Christ dealing with that man of sin in his time, thus alluding to dealing with the falling away from the faith at a different time.
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5 [/SUP]Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [SUP]
6 [/SUP]And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed
in his time.
Paul goes on to pointing out that the iniquity which causes this falling away from the faith was at work in his day.
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7 [/SUP]For the
mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
So Paul is assigning the iniquity by which the restraining power of the Holy Spirit will be taken out of the way, not that the Holy Spirit be taken out, but the restraining power of the Holy Spirit will be withheld to permit the strong delusion to occur.
Then Paul moved from that event as happening prior to the event in the next verse.
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8 [/SUP]And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
So Jesus will deal with that man of sin in verse 8 in his time just as the Lord will deal with the falling away from the faith which is to happen apart from & before his time.
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9 [/SUP]Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [SUP]
10 [/SUP]And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [SUP]
11 [/SUP]And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
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12 [/SUP]That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
So that is the iniquity that is at work in Paul's day that is to happen in droves in the latter days when God will deal with it at the pre trib rapture event for that is when God will judge His House first because of the falling away from the faith.
To identify that iniquity... we go back to verse 7 where Paul cites a new age mentality that can be attributed to opening yourselves up to receiving spirits after a sign, thinking it is the Holy Spirit being received apart from salvation.
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7 [/SUP]For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:
only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Tying it in with the following verses again...
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Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [SUP]
10 [/SUP]And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [SUP]12 [/SUP]That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Now how does this relate to receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation after a sign as being that iniquity? By the reproof that Paul gives to expose it as that iniquity by reminding every saved believer when they had received the sanctification of the Spirit & the belief of the truth at the calling of the gospel.
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13 [/SUP]But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning
chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: [SUP]14 [/SUP]Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
That is the tradition taught.
Now one will say, but those who go after Satan and signs and lying wonders are to be damned. Right, but not in the way you would think. If they do not repent, they run the risk of being damned as vessels unto dishonor in His House; disqualified and thus reprobate from attending the Marriage Supper at the pre trib rapture event wherein they will be received by Him
after the great tribulation. That is where the vessels unto dishonor comes from and why they are still in His House; those are the castaways that get left behind at the pre trib rapture when Jesus will deal with the saints that have not repented after having fallen away from the faith or for other iniquity that they had not repented from. They are still His, having His seal, but not looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help them to discern & depart from iniquity comes at a cost of more than the loss of rewards of crowns, but the dire consequence of becoming a castaway.
In 2 Thessalonians 3:1-7, Paul continue to speak against those who have fallen away from the faith and departed from the tradition taught of us and are DISORDERLY.... as those in those movements of the "Spirit" are like "slain in the Spirit" or holy laughter movement or Toronto's Blessing, or Pensacola Outpouring, or Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade, or receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation for a sign of tongues or receiving another baptism with the Holy Spirit with evidence of tongues where that supernatural tongue can be found in the world as vain & profane babbling nonsense as of the devil.
1 Timothy 4:
1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; [SUP]2 [/SUP]Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Is it not hypocrisy to receive the Holy Spirit apart from salvation when He is already in the saved believer? Yes. And so they will depart from faith in hypocrisy, opening themselves up to seducing spirits thinking they are receiving the Holy Spirit again or apart from salvation after a sign.... and for believing that LIE, God will permit that strong delusion to occur.
Paul goes on to say as a commandment from the Lord to withdraw from those that refuse to repent of this apostasy, and to not treat them as the enemy, bit admonish them as brothers in 2 Thessalonians 3:14-15. That means they are still His.
So there is a damnation to become vessels unto dishonor in His House coming at the House of God and those who do not look to Him for help as their personal Good Shepherd to discern and to depart from iniquity, they will become castaways at the pre trib rapture event because the Lord will judge His House first to deal with the first event of the falling away from the faith first. Vessels unto dishonor is the damnation that awaits those who do not look to Him for help to depart from iniquity.
So that is how all the elements tie in with how I was applying Paul's words to mean and why the strong delusion has nothing to do with the third Temple being rebuilt because that is the second event wherein the strong delusion is in the 1st event which has to deal with the falling away from the faith from which that iniquity was already at work in Paul's days.
