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You were the husband. The flesh is the wife.
Rom 7:2 KJV - For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.
remember:
Gen 2:24 KJV - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Rom 6:3 KJV - Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 7:4 KJV - Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, [even] to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
The only one that went into death was the humanity.
Rom 8:11 KJV - But if the Spirit of him (Jehovah) that raised up Jesus (humanity) from the dead dwell in you, he (Holy Spirit) that raised up Christ (the body) from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his (Holy) Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 7:2 KJV - For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.
remember:
Gen 2:24 KJV - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Rom 6:3 KJV - Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 7:4 KJV - Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, [even] to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
The only one that went into death was the humanity.
Rom 8:11 KJV - But if the Spirit of him (Jehovah) that raised up Jesus (humanity) from the dead dwell in you, he (Holy Spirit) that raised up Christ (the body) from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his (Holy) Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Well you believe what you want to believe but I do not live like a refugee anylonger and under the tree of evil one surely died that day as God said would happen and did, and all flesh has been condemend except for Jesus who came in the flesh but born of a virgin to redeem mankind from the tree of evil and as you say the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil ther is no evil in God period so why would anyone want to be a part of that tree. and the tree of life is after the new covenant was put in place the Cherubims are not guarding the tree of life anymore and only the believers in God are allowed in to eat and have eternal life. The Cheubims gaurded this tree to keep evil from eating off the tree and have eternal life as being evil and this was so until the death burial and resurrection of Christ, Where all evil sin has been condemned to and why it is vitally important for the believer to understand this. Because no flesh in Father's sight will ever please him, and since all sin has been condemned to the flesh through the death at the cross we are to after seeing this come to life, for we were dead and now that we see our death in the flesh and die to this flesh in our mindset and come alive to God in Spirit where and where is the place that God can be worshipped period in Spirit and truth. we are saved by the life not the death but the death was necessary first to clearthe deck of the disease where sin caused death period and Christ took this disease upon himself and cleared the deck so you, Iand all that come to belief can have new life in the Spirit dead to flesh and alive to God
Romans 5:10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
All in Love brother to all
Romans 5:10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
All in Love brother to all
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No you did not answer. the father and the spirit sent him, they did not send themselves. the person talking is a being. not a part of someones nature..
lol.. it is as the bible says, he is writing what GOD told him to write. whether it be the spirit, or christ himself is the question. this passage says the person speaking was sent by the spirit. so it can not be the spirit..
still skirting the question.
who did the father and spirit send. who layed the foundations of the earth. and holds it all together with his word?
it is not a matter of semantics it is a matter of truth and being free by the truth of God and what God did for us all at the cross
Does not everyone desire to be free and only God, Jehovah, Elohim, El Shaidai the creator of all this universe can do this
Why do we as people want to argue over what name, God knows the heart and God reveals truth the one that just
Christ cannot be to us the life of God without being to us the death of self. "I came not to bring peace but a sword." Now the knife must cut if we would be free. There is no other way out of selfhood.
Second, in Christ we are dead to the world. That does not mean, of course, that some medieval cloister, or a desert retreat, or the cell of a monastery, or some St. Stylites pillar would be more conducive to Christian living. No man ever stood nearer the heart of this world's affairs than Christ: whether in the market-place, in the temple, in the home, with the poor, the maimed, the halt, or with those who rejoiced at a bridal feast, He was ever in the stream of life where the current was swiftest and deepest. No indeed, He was not an ascetic. Yet He could say: "I am not of the world." "They are not of the world even as I am not of the world."
The world has taken on plenty of gloss since Christ's day, but the friendship of the world is still enmity with God; for the simple reason that the Spirit of the world with its shams and its lies, its greed, and its lust, springs from the monster self.
Does not everyone desire to be free and only God, Jehovah, Elohim, El Shaidai the creator of all this universe can do this
Why do we as people want to argue over what name, God knows the heart and God reveals truth the one that just
Christ cannot be to us the life of God without being to us the death of self. "I came not to bring peace but a sword." Now the knife must cut if we would be free. There is no other way out of selfhood.
Second, in Christ we are dead to the world. That does not mean, of course, that some medieval cloister, or a desert retreat, or the cell of a monastery, or some St. Stylites pillar would be more conducive to Christian living. No man ever stood nearer the heart of this world's affairs than Christ: whether in the market-place, in the temple, in the home, with the poor, the maimed, the halt, or with those who rejoiced at a bridal feast, He was ever in the stream of life where the current was swiftest and deepest. No indeed, He was not an ascetic. Yet He could say: "I am not of the world." "They are not of the world even as I am not of the world."
The world has taken on plenty of gloss since Christ's day, but the friendship of the world is still enmity with God; for the simple reason that the Spirit of the world with its shams and its lies, its greed, and its lust, springs from the monster self.
What I am saying is God has through his cross that he went to for all mankind has taken care of this and therefore wheh in Christ the resurrected Christ you being resurrected here and now with him there is no more concern for and of the flesh for as you quoted in Romans I have died with Christ on the cross and made back to life in his resurrected life free from the Law and Flesh garbage her and now thanking God for this miraculous free gift that would not be a free gift if I ever had to earn it. The only work that God requires of us is to work hard to enter his rest, to understand waht beleif is and how deep it goes and they never enterted his rest because of unbelief, Hebrews 3 and 4 explains this well if the Spirit will reveal it to you.
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The flesh is free to marry unto Jehovah. This is as Jesus did. He allowed Jehovah to the works which The Father had set forth from the beginning. The Humanity was not doing the works in the Body, any more than Jehovah raised Lazarus. The humanity within the Holy Thing was the example of how we are to be.
The feminine refers to the flesh. The masculine refers to the soul.
Eph 5:22 KJV - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 KJV - For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
1Cr 3:16 KJV - Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Eph 5:24 KJV - Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 KJV - Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 KJV - That he (Holy Spirit) might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word,
Eph 5:27 KJV - That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 KJV - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 KJV - For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 KJV - For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
The body spoken of here is the body you are in now. We are with Jehovah within this flesh as was the humanity in that flesh.
Eph 5:31 KJV - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 KJV - This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. (Jehovah and this flesh)
Eph 5:33 KJV - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his (Jehovah's) wife even as himself; and the wife [see] that she reverence [her] husband.
The feminine refers to the flesh. The masculine refers to the soul.
Eph 5:22 KJV - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 KJV - For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
1Cr 3:16 KJV - Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Eph 5:24 KJV - Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 KJV - Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 KJV - That he (Holy Spirit) might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word,
Eph 5:27 KJV - That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 KJV - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 KJV - For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 KJV - For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
The body spoken of here is the body you are in now. We are with Jehovah within this flesh as was the humanity in that flesh.
Eph 5:31 KJV - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 KJV - This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. (Jehovah and this flesh)
Eph 5:33 KJV - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his (Jehovah's) wife even as himself; and the wife [see] that she reverence [her] husband.
How many spirits are there? The father and Spirit are one and the same. You have your answer in the very same verses unless jacob is NOT israel.
Have you not also read that Christ is the Spirit of prophesy?
"Who did the father send who laid the foundation of the earth"? Now if One sent ANOTHER then surely whomever said that He was ALONE when He laid the foundation of the earth either forgot about His Spirit Father, His Spirit son or just His Holy Spirit. HOWEVER you choose to count them, anything other than one is NOT alone.
Have you not also read that Christ is the Spirit of prophesy?
"Who did the father send who laid the foundation of the earth"? Now if One sent ANOTHER then surely whomever said that He was ALONE when He laid the foundation of the earth either forgot about His Spirit Father, His Spirit son or just His Holy Spirit. HOWEVER you choose to count them, anything other than one is NOT alone.
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They must not be. the one talking said "the father" (1 person) and his spirit (another one) sent him.
what does this have to do with who was speaking?
Again, your skirting. Scripture says THEY CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. Not him.. The one who said it did not have to say anything of the father. He did lay the foundation.
If I built something with help. I would not be lying if I said I built it, and did not mention the ones who helped me. i did build it..
your logic is flawed. and you still have not answered the question. what is so hard about saying "the one who spoke is"_____"