The up coming Gay revival what should we do ?

[JIMBO43]

But that is the point for maintaining proper fellowship; we are not to live in sin when we claim to know God and have fellowship with Him.

What's next? The Adulterers church? The Fornicators church? The Masturbaters church? The Pornographers church? The Child Molesters church? The Bigots church? The Seriel Killers church? The manslaughterers church?

Sympathizing and empathizing for homosexuals because they can't help the way they feel and how they think and so we should just give in and let them sin as they please? Then why not for the rest of the works of the flesh?

We have to stop being intimidated by the world when they are oppressing us to accept believers living in sin without any correction nor excommunication when they do not repent.

What do they need Jesus for if they are allowed to live in sin? How can they run that race when they see no need for Jesus to help them lay aside every weight & sin to be that vessel unto honor in His House when sin is no longer sin to them??

Granted, the church cannot stop any other church when it goes astray within, but they can minister outside that church and street witness to them as the Lord leads, but if any church does that, they should tend to their own first because there can be no one sowing to the works of the flesh without repentance in their own church. Not that a church has to be perfect within, but that they should not be ignoring their own members that they know are sowing to the works of the flesh without repentance before engaging in street ministry to that carnal church which again, has to be as the Lord leads.

Any ministry that condemns gays and rebukes which they should not do when they are outside that church should know that when making an appeal, they should be prompting them to call on Jesus Christ for help as their Good Shepherd to deliver them from their sins, and warn them that they are at risk of being left behind at the pre tribulational rapture event until they do repent.

To reason.. to appeal..as the Lord leads... is the only way because rebuking someone is only effective when it involves members within the church that is not thinking this is a serious matter as if it is just your "opinion" wherein the whole church must be called forth when that same sinning believes is purposefully and willfully not listening in defiance to the written words for correction and warning of the consequences thereof whereby excommunication is necessary to lead them to repentance with the message that they will be allowed back in when they do repent by His help and by His grace.

The upcoming gay revival is not a revival but no one can say they are unsaved or not a christian when they profess Him. His disciples can only reprove by the scriptures why they are not abiding in Him as His disciples and that the gays claiming they know God and yet live in sin are reproved by scripture that they are lying when they walk in darkness.

The Book of 1 John would be a good Bible reading for that gay church to lead them into repentance, but prayer is needed because it is a war of principality... not a war against flesh and blood... so don't get in a physcial fight nor a screaming match.

Galatians 5:[SUP]14 [/SUP]For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[SUP]15 [/SUP]But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.[SUP]16 [/SUP]This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

The one thing christians that oppose the gay christian church in the UK should realize, that muslims that protest hatred in public in the UK, may find the gay church just cause for a jihad in doing violence to the gay christians that the christian protesters may find themselves as led by the Lord to give up their lives for those gay christians living in sin in the hopes that one day, God will lead them to repentance.

So I am sure it is different in ever areas of the UK, and so let us pray for those brethren that the Lord will minister and will raise up workers for the harvest wherein God may be peradventuring to recover some from the snares of teh devil.

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.[SUP]23 [/SUP]But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.[SUP]24 [/SUP]And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,[SUP]25 [/SUP]In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;[SUP]26 [/SUP]And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Amen bro that was a long one lol but a do agree with all that is said.. The reason why i said to remember we have all sinned is so we dont judge them or ridicule them but look for a solution that can accomadate them.

 

[JIMBO43]

I don't see a need for a special sect for the gays if they want to claim the title Christian then they have to understand that God has specifically forbid sleeping with another man and I don't look down on the gays but I do not approve of gay marriage and if i am called the worst of things because of it then so be it.

Ok call it the gay believers church.. then lets see how many worshipers they get and how many attend there church. and what they include in the bible and what they dont ?

 

[Miri]

The Church of England has a vary broad spectrum.

There are the true Christian evangelical churches on one side and then there are the
ones that are so entrenched in man made tradition, they might as well call themselves catholic.

I very much doubt the true Christian ones will compromise their faith, so nothing to
bother over. It will just help to differentiate the wheat from the tares.

I wont be losing any sleep over it.

 

[Miri]

Ps the gay community already has its own perversion of the bible.

Church expresses ‘huge regret’ after Cambridge LGBT commemoration service held in gay slang language | The Independent


The scripture and liturgy for the service was printed on to an order of service
at the chapel, and used words from the antiquated slang language which fell
out of use in the 1960s when homosexuality began to be decriminalised.
While receiving permission to hold the service, a source from the Church
of England confirmed a college chaplain had not seen the wording of the
service.
An Old Testament reading from the Prophet Joel which says: “Rend your
heart and not your garments, return to the Lord your God”, was changed
into Polari to read: “Rend your thumping chest and not your frocks – and
turn unto the Duchess your Gloria: for she is bona and merciful”.


They have obviously not read the last few verses of the book of Revelations.

I would add that the Church of England also made the news for allowing Muslim
prayer services.

The C of E is no threat to real Christianity.

 

[plainguy]

I know what I'm doing. I'm shopping for a pretty dress

 

[JIMBO43]

The Church of England has a vary broad spectrum.

There are the true Christian evangelical churches on one side and then there are the
ones that are so entrenched in man made tradition, they might as well call themselves catholic.

I very much doubt the true Christian ones will compromise their faith, so nothing to
bother over. It will just help to differentiate the wheat from the tares.

I wont be losing any sleep over it.

I find it intresting that both obama and david cameron have been well and truly stripped of there crown,, and they both made gay marriage a law of the land.

What bother me now since david cameron has made it law of the land the gay movement has now rapidly expanded and think they now have the right to get married in the church of england. (hence the goverment backing to allow theese debates to continue in the houses of parliment. where there is some pretty influential figures.

It sadens me deepy that my church anglican catholic the true church of england will be forced into submission to the point where they are deemed to be breaking the law for not allowing gay marriage..

The only thing then left to do is find a church that doesnt and that will be Gods Church only i fear,, because the way i see this going is all churches will be breaking the law if they dont allow gay marriage.

Imagine the 45 million christians in the uk no longer having a church they can go to that stands up for the word of God. (very cruel and very dishonest)

This is where we the people come in and where its high time we all spoke up and do not let have gays have there own way for once.

They seem to get there way for just about everything else but not this one i say. batton down the hatches make a stand give them the word of God give them hope but dont encourage sin please.

Malachi 3:13-18New International Version (NIV)

Israel Speaks Arrogantly Against God

[SUP]13 [/SUP]“You have spoken arrogantly against me,” says the Lord.
“Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’
[SUP]14 [/SUP]“You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What do we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? [SUP]15 [/SUP]But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly evildoers prosper, and even when they put God to the test, they get away with it.’”
The Faithful Remnant

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]“On the day when I act,” says the Lord Almighty, “they will be my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as a father has compassion and spares his son who serves him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not.


Malachi 4:1-3New International Version (NIV)

Judgment and Covenant Renewal

4 [SUP][a][/SUP]“Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the Lord Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them. [SUP]2 [/SUP]But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act,” says the Lord Almighty.


We must not give in to the powers of the law of our land we must not.

 

[JIMBO43]

I know what I'm doing. I'm shopping for a pretty dress

Thats not a sin but what you do once you ware it could be just sayin

 

[JIMBO43]

The poll is a bad one. There aren't enough options. There should be options about reaching homosexuals for Christ.

What is meant by 'gay revival'? If it means a revival of homosexuality, when was 'gay' a movement before the past few decades? If you mean 'revival' in the sense of a spiritual awakening the way Christians use it, repentance should be a part of a genuine revival. So forcing accepting the LGBT agenda is not a 'revival' in this sense.

There is an option for that which lets them come to our church but dont allow gay marriage

 

[plainguy]

Thats not a sin but what you do once you wear it could be just sayin

Not to worry. I'd never wear it without the matching heels and handbag

 

[JIMBO43]

It should be allowed. If two people love each other enough to get married they should be allowed to do it in their church of choice. All this hatred towards homosexuals is just driving good people away from the word of god.

Would you be the one to make that decision ? easy for you to say but what about the pastor or vicar who is forced to marry two gay people and if he doesnt he brakes the law,, what about him should he allow it because you approve ?

 

[JIMBO43]

Not to worry. I'd never wear it without the matching heels and handbag

Ok thanks for the info but dont you think that dressing up as a women encourages sexually immorality. ?

 

[JIMBO43]

Deuteronomy 22:5
5"A woman shall not wear man's clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD

An abomination means you shouldnt do this my friend why are you in rebellion ?

 

[Susanna]

Not to worry. I'd never wear it without the matching heels and handbag

Thanks for the laugh, buddy.

 

[plainguy]

Ok thanks for the info but dont you think that dressing up as a women encourages sexually immorality. ?

I'm joking JIMBO. My comments weren't meant to be taken seriously

 

[JIMBO43]

Homosexuality will rise big time,and will soon be a worldwide law that a man and a woman cannot come together in a sexual encounter,so they can only be homosexual if they want human contact for sex.

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very scary thought yikes i think you could call this either rise of the satanists or rise of the pagons.

 

[JIMBO43]

I'm joking JIMBO. My comments weren't meant to be taken seriously

oh ok lol i had the feeling but wasnt sure no probs shirley haha

 

[JIMBO43]

Thats the same as saying "Let's open up a new church for murderers and child molesters- you know, so as not to discriminate against them." Anyone who thinks such thoughts is thinking of money not of souls!

What an abomination!

when i say let them open a new church what i really mean there going to do what they want anyway just tell them to open there own church but keep well away from ours.

 

[JIMBO43]

Ill be the first to admit when I am wrong. I do see your point. I really do not think churches should be forced to perform gay marriage. On this same point I have always wondered why a couple would want to force a minister/church to perform the ceremony. It doesn't make sense when there are so many other options. I mean just go to Vegas, they will hook ya up!

Its because of all the no answers they have recieved from our church over the years,, there goal is to be accepted by everyone.. what they dont get is we can certainly accept gays but we dont have to change our lords words to accept you.

Its more than that they feel the church is discrimiating against them and where evil for doing as such,, thats the real issue there pride is dented. (pride befor the fall ring a bell)

My personal belief is that some gay priest wants to be seen as a hero and the one who gave the gay revival the upcoming that they want

 

[dcontroversal]

I strongly disagree (I would have preferred to use stronger language here). Christ has promised us "Abundant life" in Him. Jesus taught us to pray "Your will be done on Earth, as it is in Heaven", sounds like to me that God's will for our world is a better one, not one getting worse. If you look at history, the world has gotten progressively better and the church has grown to almost all parts of the Earth. Church growth is much like the stock market, it has it's ups and downs, but overtime it heads in the right direction.

I refuse to believe that it is God's will that we (the Church) go underground. Jesus said the gates of hades will not prevail against the Church, and the only reason why it seems to many that we are losing the battle is that the Christian mindset and the focus is off Christ. We are to be the beacon, the light on the hilltop, we are to let our light shine, not put a shade over it!!!

So what........and ask me if I care......the day the government forces inclusion and you bow to it is the day the authority afforded to a N.T. church goes out the window....

Why do you suppose Jesus said he was about to stir away the candlestick and threatened a few churches in Revelation?

Your view belies a lack of understanding....

a. They met in HOMES, small in NUMBER (see Philemon) and other books
b. The field is the world and as you are going<--where you shine your light

Assembly capacity worship has zero to do with your points!

A little leaven does what to the whole lump pal?

 

[dcontroversal]

Thats right God is not raising up a bunch of cowards, He did not tell us to put on the Whole Armor then hide, we are to fight the good fight of faith, not crawl into a hole and hide.

Post 59 and wise up!