The up coming Gay revival what should we do ?

[JIMBO43]

Originally Posted by OneFaith

Thats the same as saying "Let's open up a new church for murderers and child molesters- you know, so as not to discriminate against them." Anyone who thinks such thoughts is thinking of money not of souls!

What an abomination!.

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when i say let them open a new church what i really mean there going to do what they want anyway just tell them to open there own church but keep well away from ours.

[/QUOTE] may i add keep away from ours when it comes to gay marriage

 

[oldethennew]

MATT. 27:35.
And they crucified Him, and parted His garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled
which was spoken by the prophet, They parted My garments among them, and upon
My vesture did they cast lots.

11COR. 6:14-15-16-17-18.
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath
righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath Light with darkness?

And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of The Living God;
as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.

Wherefore come out from among them, and be you separate, saith The Lord, and touch not the unclean
and I will receive you,

And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be My sons and daughters, saith The Lord Almighty.

11TIM. 2:22.
Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace,
with them that call on The Lord out of a pure heart.

LUKE 17:1.
Then said He unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe
through whom they come!

 

[JIMBO43]

I seariosly feal This is the work of satan its makes me feal so sad that gays have this mentality of being accepted is one thing which they are accepted. but to have the mentality of lets change the world to suit our needs,, welll that satan in my book.

The law has changed its rules on so many diffrent laws theres not much left to change.

There a llowed to get married

there allowed to join are armed forces.

There allowed to clubs of there own.

There allowed freedom of free will.

There allowed to live work where ever they like..


What they cant understand is no for an answer from our church.. They condem us as evil we pray for them.

They look upon us as racist we offer them acceptance and eternal security....

There pride wont take no for an answer (remind you of someone in the bible satan..

They speak about us if we are ignorant pigs,, we just say no we want you to be right with God..

They condem us as being persacuters (We say no we love you but want you to be one with christ.)..

There pride is there fall and when they are 65 years of age and sex is no something they no longer something they desire they will look back and say sh**t i went against the word of God and worse than that i turned so many into sinners because of my actions...

Then hopefully they will come to christ but sadly some sinners who never reach 65 what happens to them ?

 

[PrynceNY]

I would be more concerned about not upsetting God & keeping his word than what any homosexual says. They have made their choice.The scriptures tells us not to conform to the world.

 

[Utah]

The time is coming where those who will worship God will be meeting in secret and in small groups...

Yes I know it is taking place worldwide....but in the U.S. the gov will begin to force inclusion and only one way to deal with it...groups....small in number...in secret!

I hear you, bro, but unless God tells me otherwise, the gun will be pried from my cold, dead hands before I'm forced to worship God in secret. I'm that serious.

 

[JIMBO43]

I would be more concerned about not upsetting God & keeping his word than what any homosexual says. They have made their choice.The scriptures tells us not to conform to the world.

oH please for heavens sake man let it go Two people man and women who love each other and in a relationship that is one of the same as marriage obeying all the same rules as marriage. And registered as commonlaw man and wife are not upsetting God my friend.......



Quite the oppersite God rejoices and say become married (amen)

 

[Demi777]

ok send them to Westboro Baptist church. no new denomination needed. theyll take care of it

 

[PrynceNY]

oH please for heavens sake man let it go Two people man and women who love each other and in a relationship that is one of the same as marriage obeying all the same rules as marriage. And registered as commonlaw man and wife are not upsetting God my friend.......



Quite the oppersite God rejoices and say become married (amen)

What are you talking about? Let what go? You mention about you not wanting to upset gays & I stated the only thing that matters is what Gods word says on the matter. Them being upset about it is irrelevant to me. I said nothing about a man & woman being married. However a boyfriend & girlfriend doesn't equal a husband & wife regardless of your personal view.

 

[dcontroversal]

I hear you, bro, but unless God tells me otherwise, the gun will be pried from my cold, dead hands before I'm forced to worship God in secret. I'm that serious.

I hear what your saying.....make no mistake....I am armed to the hilt myself....was just thinking of historically speaking and how during the dark ages small groups would march for hours to the middle of no where in knee deep snow just so they could sing a few psalms and hear the word.....The Churches of the Valleys of Piedmont or Foxes book of Martyrs come to mind....I will defend religious freedoms as well....but if push comes to shove....alive with a small group worshipping God in da woods if need be....is acceptable unto me.....so is putting enough lead in the air to walk on and or darken the sun.......!

 

[JIMBO43]

What are you talking about? Let what go? You mention about you not wanting to upset gays & I stated the only thing that matters is what Gods word says on the matter. Them being upset about it is irrelevant to me. I said nothing about a man & woman being married. However a boyfriend & girlfriend doesn't equal a husband & wife regardless of your personal view.

i have to say you have helped me in some aspects you have reminded me just how sacred my relationship is,, and how sacred Gods word is and to completely say no to lust too,,,, But what ever you believe you do not know if N0 1 God has blessed my relationship.. Just sayin otherwise peace to you and be blessed in your day

 

[Utah]

I hear what your saying.....make no mistake....I am armed to the hilt myself....was just thinking of historically speaking and how during the dark ages small groups would march for hours to the middle of no where in knee deep snow just so they could sing a few psalms and hear the word.....The Churches of the Valleys of Piedmont or Foxes book of Martyrs come to mind....I will defend religious freedoms as well....but if push comes to shove....alive with a small group worshipping God in da woods if need be....is acceptable unto me.....so is putting enough lead in the air to walk on and or darken the sun.......!

Amen to this ^^^^

 

[ROSSELLA]

Perhaps i should of icluded a couple more options. The bible states dont even fellowship with such people dont fellowship with the sexual immoral until they have repented and gave up there sins. God says there like filthy spots in your fellowship meals.

Meaning christ cant dwell in them untill they turn from there wicked ways.

I think you should ask the question how can you put pagons and christians in the same church you cant..

So i say let them have there own church but stay well away from ours until you have come to abide by our church rules.

Matthew 18:15-17 is talking about unrepentant brothers and sisters. In the case of unrepentant members of the Church, yes they must be dealt with and treated like "pagans and tax collectors." Yet, this is different than Christians who struggle with sin. All Christians acknowledge and give up sin, yet backslide. Christians who have same-sex attractions aren't unrepentant if they're struggling against it.
However, while we're not to consider pagans members of the congregation, we're called to witness to them. If we're to treat unrepentant brothers and sisters like unbelievers, we shouldn't be in close fellowship with them, but to bar them from attending the service...I don't think that's what the Bible is talking about. Otherwise, that would mean the one place an unbeliever can't be led to Christ is in Church.


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[NayborBear]

It should be allowed. If two people love each other enough to get married they should be allowed to do it in their church of choice. All this hatred towards homosexuals is just driving good people away from the word of god.

It will make it easier, wouldn't it, to know what baal whorshippers are, wouldn't it?...and just how polluted and corrupted "unconditional love" has become...Wouldn't it?....Yep?....It's THIS bad!

 

[jenniferand2]

This is a tuff one. I feel that Gay people should be allowed in any church. I also feel that church should only keep to their practices and that is to try to save the souls of the Gay people or any people who have gone astray. I do not think I would ever accept a Church that would allow a Gay marriage to take place. As far as worshiping in Secret Nooooo I would lay down my life for God and if it came to a point where I was worshiping and some one wanted to take me out. I would fight with all I got and If I were to be killed then so be it. It would be all worth it to me. Know the song Father I adore you Lay my life before you how I love you..........

 

[JIMBO43]

Matthew 18:15-17 is talking about unrepentant brothers and sisters. In the case of unrepentant members of the Church, yes they must be dealt with and treated like "pagans and tax collectors." Yet, this is different than Christians who struggle with sin. All Christians acknowledge and give up sin, yet backslide. Christians who have same-sex attractions aren't unrepentant if they're struggling against it.
However, while we're not to consider pagans members of the congregation, we're called to witness to them. If we're to treat unrepentant brothers and sisters like unbelievers, we shouldn't be in close fellowship with them, but to bar them from attending the service...I don't think that's what the Bible is talking about. Otherwise, that would mean the one place an unbeliever can't be led to Christ is in Church.


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I understand fully where your coming from that christians now who are gay can have lustfull desires for the same sex.. and in some case fall into temptation ...(i understand that but this is not the issue)

Because christians can have lustful desires does not mean the church should marry them..

Because they have lustful desires is because there being tempted by satan to go the other way.........a still voice that wont quit untill you give in..........

Satan knows when your tempted i fear and when he knows hell keep on with the temtation untill you give in..

The other argument is some men are born with female hormones (but only some please note)

Man born with a womb prepares for hysterectomy

:Man born with a womb prepares for hysterectomy - Telegraph


Now the argument is this man would be perctly natural to desire a man,,, answer correct but that still doesnt give him the excuse to change Gods word..

 

[garee]

[h=2]

Re: The up coming Gay revival what should we do ?[/h]
Pray and preach the gospel , its the kind of fast that can cast out the lying spirits.

 

[Miri]

I find it intresting that both obama and david cameron have been well and truly stripped of there crown,, and they both made gay marriage a law of the land.

What bother me now since david cameron has made it law of the land the gay movement has now rapidly expanded and think they now have the right to get married in the church of england. (hence the goverment backing to allow theese debates to continue in the houses of parliment. where there is some pretty influential figures.

It sadens me deepy that my church anglican catholic the true church of england will be forced into submission to the point where they are deemed to be breaking the law for not allowing gay marriage..

The only thing then left to do is find a church that doesnt and that will be Gods Church only i fear,, because the way i see this going is all churches will be breaking the law if they dont allow gay marriage.

Imagine the 45 million christians in the uk no longer having a church they can go to that stands up for the word of God. (very cruel and very dishonest)

This is where we the people come in and where its high time we all spoke up and do not let have gays have there own way for once.

They seem to get there way for just about everything else but not this one i say. batton down the hatches make a stand give them the word of God give them hope but dont encourage sin please.

It makes no difference whether the Church of England falls or not, in fact if the
churches are preaching a false gospel then I would rather they fail!

There are plenty of other true bible teaching denominations in the Uk.
Ive never been pastored by a Church of England church and I'm a born again Christian.

As far as gay weddings go, the current legislations allows churches to opt out in the UK.
Only the Church of England decided to opt in! Probably because a lot of the priests are
gay. As I say it's far better that a church fails when it's leading people astray.

I would add that I do know of two evangelical Church of England churches which are
pretty much independent and do not follow the crowd. Let's have more of them I say.


http://www.christian.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/ssm-legal-guide.pdf

See page 8 of the above link.

Do churches have to conductsame-sex No. The legislation to create same-sex
marriage was explicitly drafted so thatno church or church
minister can be compelled “by any means” to carry out a same-sex wedding.

The Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act contains the Government’s ‘quadlock’, a set of four
safeguards for churches and ministers who disagree withsame-sex marriage:

 

[JIMBO43]

It makes no difference whether the Church of England falls or not, in fact if the
churches are preaching a false gospel then I would rather they fail!

There are plenty of other true bible teaching denominations in the Uk.
Ive never been pastored by a Church of England church and I'm a born again Christian.

As far as gay weddings go, the current legislations allows churches to opt out in the UK.
Only the Church of England decided to opt in! Probably because a lot of the priests are
gay. As I say it's far better that a church fails when it's leading people astray.

I would add that I do know of two evangelical Church of England churches which are
pretty much independent and do not follow the crowd. Let's have more of them I say.


http://www.christian.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/ssm-legal-guide.pdf

See page 8 of the above link.

Do churches have to conductsame-sex No. The legislation to create same-sex
marriage was explicitly drafted so thatno church or church
minister can be compelled “by any means” to carry out a same-sex wedding.

The Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act contains the Government’s ‘quadlock’, a set of four
safeguards for churches and ministers who disagree withsame-sex marriage:

My church is the acc anglican catholic church.
I know the church of england has gay priests,,,,,,, but its them gay priests who started the revolt,, most of them have left because they havent been able to get there own way and it is them that is fighting the church of england to change there views to allow gay marriage. and the gay comunity. and now the houses of parliment.

I dont know the full circustance around why the church of england had gay priests,, whether they admited they where gay after being ordained to be a priest. or whether its now the church of englands rule to allow gay priests ,, i really dont know.

But whatever the reason is the issue is gay marriage.

 

[john832]

This moment in time i am saddened but not disheartened.

Today are churches spoke of some radical new inclusion is needed for gays but its something that must be discussed as what that radical new inclusion could be ?.

My question to all christians is what do you think all the church fathers of the united kingdome will choose. ?

1 The church allows the gay community have there own sect and call it the G.C.C Gay christian church ?

2 To to allow gay people to fellowship with christians but not allow gay marriage as Jesus said marriage is between a man and a women.

3 To allow gay marriage in our churches. church of england ?
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I dont want to upset gays but how can they ask us to go against what our saviour says ?

I really dont think its fair that gays should change the minds of everybody as we can accept them but we dont have to change our rules to suit them. its totaly unfair to ask a christian to Go against God.


Im posting a poll try to keep this cival if you can and please respect the fact that we all sin.

If the church you attend "chooses a radical new inclusion for gays ", you need to get out of it immediately.

 

[ROSSELLA]

I understand fully where your coming from that christians now who are gay can have lustfull desires for the same sex.. and in some case fall into temptation ...(i understand that but this is not the issue)

Because christians can have lustful desires does not mean the church should marry them..

Because they have lustful desires is because there being tempted by satan to go the other way.........a still voice that wont quit untill you give in..........

Satan knows when your tempted i fear and when he knows hell keep on with the temtation untill you give in..

The other argument is some men are born with female hormones (but only some please note)

Man born with a womb prepares for hysterectomy

:Man born with a womb prepares for hysterectomy - Telegraph


Now the argument is this man would be perctly natural to desire a man,,, answer correct but that still doesnt give him the excuse to change Gods word..

I don't believe the Church should marry them, either. But I also think that that needs to be left up to the individual pastor to decide, as they would be the ones either performing or not performing the ceremony.