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Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
What do you think this rest is from?
What are people laboring at and what is their heavy burden?
The Lord surely didn't destroy the Law or the Prophets. He just destroyed our carnal understanding of them and carnal work at them.
What do you think this rest is from?
What are people laboring at and what is their heavy burden?
The Lord surely didn't destroy the Law or the Prophets. He just destroyed our carnal understanding of them and carnal work at them.
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Grandpa, child, if you read in contest you will see in plain language Jesus is inviting al so learn of Him, and if you checked at least one of the times I have shared this with you you would understand, however it is evident you do not want to pass on what is being taught by Jesus, rather your own agenda.
The teaching above is the fulfillment not the abolishment, of the prophesy that we would be taught of God., Why do you sdnot accept His invitation instead of changing His teaching?
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Grandpa, child, if you read in contest you will see in plain language Jesus is inviting al so learn of Him, and if you checked at least one of the times I have shared this with you you would understand, however it is evident you do not want to pass on what is being taught by Jesus, rather your own agenda.
The teaching above is the fulfillment not the abolishment, of the prophesy that we would be taught of God., Why do you sdnot accept His invitation instead of changing His teaching?
In this thread we have had two glaring examples of perverting the meaning o words of Christ thatare in plain language, and not in dark sayings.
Below you read how Jesus, in fulfilling the law and the prophets, realizes the prophesy that we will be taught of God.
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light
The common dand ontinuous error here is teaching all who believe are automatically given eternal rest. If you believe and you are doing the works of God or even if you simply must work to support the family, you know you are not resting, though you will always have peace. I, for one, do not want to rest in this age for when Yeshua, Jesu, returns I would like to hear "good and faithful servant," as we all woul want to hear.
The other glaring error here in this thread being purported is when Jesus said with this word, destroy, when He teaches us He did not come to destroy the law in the prophets, He continued using this word, fulfill, when He added I have come to fulfill them.
People, very misguided, are teaching this means the law is destroyed. Were this the case He would have said I have not come to destroy the law and the kkprophets, rather I have come to detroy them, which makes absolutely no sense.
A test book on any "ology" is completed when it has been thoroughly studied but any professional worth being called so, though he has finished it, completed it, fulfilled it, will need to refer to it from time to time, by nature of being a professional
So it is with all who believe and teh Word, and this includes having studied the law. No one is save by works of he law, but any may lose good standing by believing we may disobey the laws that rema.
Also, when you know the law , you will see prophesy and wisdome within.....You who do not know it, lease do not come back with a response to a subject you have not thoroughyl studied. It will only lead to bitter dicussion.
Below you read how Jesus, in fulfilling the law and the prophets, realizes the prophesy that we will be taught of God.
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light
The common dand ontinuous error here is teaching all who believe are automatically given eternal rest. If you believe and you are doing the works of God or even if you simply must work to support the family, you know you are not resting, though you will always have peace. I, for one, do not want to rest in this age for when Yeshua, Jesu, returns I would like to hear "good and faithful servant," as we all woul want to hear.
The other glaring error here in this thread being purported is when Jesus said with this word, destroy, when He teaches us He did not come to destroy the law in the prophets, He continued using this word, fulfill, when He added I have come to fulfill them.
People, very misguided, are teaching this means the law is destroyed. Were this the case He would have said I have not come to destroy the law and the kkprophets, rather I have come to detroy them, which makes absolutely no sense.
A test book on any "ology" is completed when it has been thoroughly studied but any professional worth being called so, though he has finished it, completed it, fulfilled it, will need to refer to it from time to time, by nature of being a professional
So it is with all who believe and teh Word, and this includes having studied the law. No one is save by works of he law, but any may lose good standing by believing we may disobey the laws that rema.
Also, when you know the law , you will see prophesy and wisdome within.....You who do not know it, lease do not come back with a response to a subject you have not thoroughyl studied. It will only lead to bitter dicussion.
You have no understanding regarding this issue and you don't pay attention. The law was not destroyed, but was fulfilled by Christ. Big difference! Jesus came to fulfill what mankind could not keep. Anyone who puts themselves under the law, must obey the entire law, not just parts of it. And when you fail at any part of it, it brings death! Jesus met the righteous requirements of the law, satisfying it completely on our behalf.
If you have a leak in your house that you can't fix and you call a professional who can fix it, after he fixes the leak do you continue to try and fix it?
Your trying to sound so spiritual as though you have the answer, but you have no idea what you are talking about. The law has been fulfilled by Christ. He met all of its requirement and brought it to its end for all who believe. Yet, you and others who don't understand this concept continue bring people back under the Law for which Christ freed us from. Furthermore, you ignore all of the scriptures that God gave us demonstrating that we are no longer under the law.
"For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God."
Stop teaching this junk to believers! We are free in Christ and it is you who are distorting the word of God and will be held accountable for it!
My advice to you is reread Galatians and Romans so that you can be retaught regarding salvation by grace through faith vs observing the works of the law.
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Here is the link..... http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...ration-christ-fulfilling-waw.html#post3511244
should you care for the reeply....
should you care for the reeply....
JaumeJ,
That link is just someone else's teaching, which is not going to change the scriptures that I have already cited. The fact that you are offering someone else's teaching is foretelling. In fact, scripture refers to this as the very problem of gathering around you teachers to say what your itching ears want to hear and abandoning the truth and turning aside to myths.
In your teaching of this, you are doing nothing short of what those false teachers were doing to the Galatians who were trying to turn them away from salvation by grace through faith in order bring them back under the law, of which Paul said:
O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?Are you so foolish? After starting in the Spirit, are you now finishing in the flesh? Have you suffered so much for nothing, if it really was for nothing? Does God lavish His Spirit on you and work miracles among you because you practice the Law, or because you hear and believe?
All who rely on works of the Law are under a curse. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”And it is clear that no one is justified before God by the Law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.”The Law, however, is not based on faith; on the contrary, “The one who does these things will live by them.”Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse for us. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”He redeemed us so that the blessing promised to Abraham would come to the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
I thank my God in the name of Jesus Christ that He satisfied the Law completely and fully, freeing all believers from the curse of the Law. For all of you who are reading, if you faith is in Christ and are led by the Spirit, on such there is no Law, for the Law which is empowered by sin is what kills us.
Those in Christ are not under the Law in any way, shape or form, because Jesus rescued us from the curse of the Law.
That link is just someone else's teaching, which is not going to change the scriptures that I have already cited. The fact that you are offering someone else's teaching is foretelling. In fact, scripture refers to this as the very problem of gathering around you teachers to say what your itching ears want to hear and abandoning the truth and turning aside to myths.
In your teaching of this, you are doing nothing short of what those false teachers were doing to the Galatians who were trying to turn them away from salvation by grace through faith in order bring them back under the law, of which Paul said:
O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?Are you so foolish? After starting in the Spirit, are you now finishing in the flesh? Have you suffered so much for nothing, if it really was for nothing? Does God lavish His Spirit on you and work miracles among you because you practice the Law, or because you hear and believe?
All who rely on works of the Law are under a curse. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”And it is clear that no one is justified before God by the Law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.”The Law, however, is not based on faith; on the contrary, “The one who does these things will live by them.”Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse for us. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”He redeemed us so that the blessing promised to Abraham would come to the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
I thank my God in the name of Jesus Christ that He satisfied the Law completely and fully, freeing all believers from the curse of the Law. For all of you who are reading, if you faith is in Christ and are led by the Spirit, on such there is no Law, for the Law which is empowered by sin is what kills us.
Those in Christ are not under the Law in any way, shape or form, because Jesus rescued us from the curse of the Law.
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Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
What do you think this rest is from?
What are people laboring at and what is their heavy burden?
The Lord surely didn't destroy the Law or the Prophets. He just destroyed our carnal understanding of them and carnal work at them.
Is that because you can't answer the simple questions asked?
Or is it because you don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ in fact gives us Rest?
There are those who like to argue that if Jesus did not "abolish" the law, then it must still be binding (Matthew 5:17). According to that logic, such components as the seventh-day Sabbath requirement must still be operative and binding on the Church under the New Covenant, along with other elements of the Mosaic Law. This assumption is grounded in a misunderstanding of the words and intent of the passage.
Christ did not suggest here that the binding nature of the law of Moses would remain forever in effect. Such a view would contradict everything we learn from the New Testament (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15; Hebrews 8:13 etc..).
Christ came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill. Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment and Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a "curse" (Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given.
If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to believers today under the New Covenant as it did to Israel under the Old Covenant, in terms of its binding status, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came to do. On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish His goal, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today under the New Covenant.
Christ did not suggest here that the binding nature of the law of Moses would remain forever in effect. Such a view would contradict everything we learn from the New Testament (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15; Hebrews 8:13 etc..).
Christ came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill. Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment and Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a "curse" (Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given.
If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to believers today under the New Covenant as it did to Israel under the Old Covenant, in terms of its binding status, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came to do. On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish His goal, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today under the New Covenant.
Ok. Since this is so difficult I will answer myself.
Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
People are laboring and are heavily laden by their work at the 10 commandments, the law of Moses.
The Lord Jesus Christ gives us Rest from this work. He gives us His Gift of Righteousness so that we don't have to work at the 10 commandments in order to attain it.
When we are given this Gift of Righteousness we see that we never REALLY were able to keep the law. Because it was a spiritual law that we had interpreted to be a carnal law that could be fulfilled by our will and understanding.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
We are told by Paul that after we come to Christ and receive Rest we are not to go back and be entangled by our work at the law, the yoke of bondage.
But some "wise" think they have outsmarted scripture.
Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
People are laboring and are heavily laden by their work at the 10 commandments, the law of Moses.
The Lord Jesus Christ gives us Rest from this work. He gives us His Gift of Righteousness so that we don't have to work at the 10 commandments in order to attain it.
When we are given this Gift of Righteousness we see that we never REALLY were able to keep the law. Because it was a spiritual law that we had interpreted to be a carnal law that could be fulfilled by our will and understanding.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
We are told by Paul that after we come to Christ and receive Rest we are not to go back and be entangled by our work at the law, the yoke of bondage.
But some "wise" think they have outsmarted scripture.
1COR. 7:37.
Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will,
and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
ECC. 12:13.
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His Commandments:
for this is the whole DUTY of man'...
please, let's just live by what our Holy Bible tells us to do,,.
most of us have been first witness to what happens when we don't do as He Commands...
Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will,
and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
ECC. 12:13.
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His Commandments:
for this is the whole DUTY of man'...
please, let's just live by what our Holy Bible tells us to do,,.
most of us have been first witness to what happens when we don't do as He Commands...