Theory of Final Authority

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What is the question, again? Or the point of this thread?
Sorry, my thread was invaded by angry amateur theologians.

They have almost killed my thread !



Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?

yes or no, please

If yes, then, what exactly are you calling scripture ?


 

maxwel

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Sorry, my thread was invaded by angry amateur theologians.

They have almost killed my thread !



Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?

yes or no, please

If yes, then, what exactly are you calling scripture ?


So you're a PROFESSIONAL theologian?


Ok. Back that up.

What are your credentials?

At which seminary do you teach?




 
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JesusIsAll

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What is the question, again? Or the point of this thread?
There are supposed to be twelve points, don't you know? Haven't located them, but at least I'm ahead of somebody.
 

tourist

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Sorry, my thread was invaded by angry amateur theologians.

They have almost killed my thread !



Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?

yes or no, please

If yes, then, what exactly are you calling scripture ?


I believe that the Word of God is inspired by God. I believe that the bible is scripture, if not then there would be no practical example of final authority as it would be unrecognizable, and based only opinion and assumption.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Sorry, my thread was invaded by angry amateur theologians.

They have almost killed my thread !



Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?

yes or no, please

If yes, then, what exactly are you calling scripture ?


Well, I know I'm not angry or claiming to have any sense, even. But yes, I have a Bible with inspired scripture, from cover to cover. (If you need exact, I call scripture scripture.) There. So, was that a trick question, or do I get a stuffed animal?
 
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Please, may I ask, What bible are you talking about ?

Well, I know I'm not angry or claiming to have any sense, even. But yes, I have a Bible with inspired scripture, from cover to cover. (If you need exact, I call scripture scripture.) There. So, was that a trick question, or do I get a stuffed animal?
 
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Please, may I ask, What bible are you talking about ?

I prefer the King James, but also admire the NASB, don't sneeze at an ASV, and was once caught reading an RSV.
 

maxwel

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Please, may I ask, What bible are you talking about ?

If you want to make an argument for the KJV,
this is an extremely verbose and circuitous way to go about it.

You should really start a new thread, and just argue about the KJV.





 

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Why would I proceed if I don't know

if you agree with my opening statements ?

I'm a doctor, but I'm not your doctor .
I have answered every question you have asked of me for two days, the fact you have not noticed that is concerning...If you are here to heal me, I should probably let you know up front I am already healed...Jesus has done that Himself, unless you want to add to His work.[and that was said with sarcasm]....I want you to know you are playing a cat and mouse game and I am out..I will say your avatar is a beautiful LION what inspired you to use that? Very powerful symbol ...
 
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JesusIsAll

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If you want to make an argument for the KJV,
this is an extremely verbose and circuitous way to go about it.

You should really start a new thread, and just argue about the KJV.
If this is what is going on, I want my money back.
 
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JesusIsAll

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I read a Good News when very young, in the process of getting saved, got the gospel and a lot of truth from it, remember well the wonder of it.
 
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There are supposed to be twelve points,
don't you know? Haven't located them,
but at least I'm ahead of somebody.
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#8. Academic Theology categorically and conclusively
demonstrates the apologetics of the KJV Holy Bible.

99% of the 5,500+ existing N.T. manuscripts support the readings

of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

The N.T. manuscripts of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible
predate the existing 45 Alexandrian manuscripts
and the reconstructed Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus.

The Record Theory independently answers the questions of final authority
and final canonization. The dynamic Purified Text Theory supports
the Record Theory, demonstrated in the manuscript evidence,
bible canonization, bible doctrine, billions of bibles
and computational linguistics.


#9. Every Christian has experienced the leading of the Spirit of God
and are confident the Lord blessed the results.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God,
they are the sons of God.

Over seven years 47 of history’s greatest scholars prayerfully translated
the Authorized King James Holy Bible from the majority manuscripts,
Wycliffe Bible, Erasmus N.T., Luther Bible, Colinaeus N.T.,
Stephanus N.T., Tyndale Bible, Coverdale Bible, Great Bible,
Geneva Bible, Bishop Bible and Beza N.T.

English speaking denominations throughout the world promoted
KJV Holy Bibles. There were no manuscript revisions of the (1611 KJV) Holy Bible
until the (1881 RV) Revised Version, only spelling, punctuation and measurement editions.

John Wesley believed the KJV Holy Bible was inspired scripture.
It is estimated John Wesley won 2,000,000 souls to Christ.

George Washington believed the KJV Holy Bible was inspired scripture.

Abraham Lincoln believed the KJV Holy Bible was inspired scripture.


#10. KJV Holy Bible Christians founded the U.S.A.,
and wrote the Constitution, the Bill of Rights
and the Proclamation of Emancipation.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1983 YEAR OF THE BIBLE
JOINT RESOLUTION OF THE U.S. SENATE S.J. 165
AND THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES H.J. 487
WHEREAS THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD, HAS MADE A UNIQUE CONTRIBUTION IN SHAPING
THE UNITED STATES AS A DISTINCTIVE AND BLESSED NATION AND PEOPLE.
WHEREAS DEEPLY HELD RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS SPRINGING FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURES
LED TO THE EARLY SETTLEMENT OF OUR NATION.
WHEREAS BIBLICAL TEACHING INSPIRED CONCEPTS OF CIVIL GOVERNMENT CONTAINED
IN OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
WHEREAS MANY OF OUR GREAT NATIONAL LEADERS, AMONG THEM PRESIDENTS WASHINGTON,
JACKSON, LINCOLN AMD WILSON, PAID TRIBUTE TO THE SURPASSING INFLUENCE OF THE BIBLE
IN OUR COUNTRY’S DEVELOPMENT, AS IN THE WORDS OF PRESIDENT JACKSON
THAT THE BIBLE IS THE "ROCK UPON WHICH OUR REPUBLIC RESTS".
WHEREAS THE HISTORY OF OUR NATIONS CLEARLY ILLUSTRATES THE VALUE
OF VOLUNTARY APPLYING THE TEACHING OF THE SCRIPTURES IN THE LIVES
OF INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND SOCIETIES.
WHEREAS THIS NATION NOW FACES GREAT CHALLENGES THAT WILL TEST THIS NATION
AS IT HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED BEFORE.
WHEREAS THAT RENEWING OUR KNOWLEDGE OF AND FAITH IN GOD THROUGH
HOLY SCRIPTURE CAN STRENGTHEN US AS A NATION AND A PEOPLE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, RONALD REAGAN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
IN RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND INFLUENCE OF THE BIBLE ON OUR REPUBLIC
AND OUR PEOPLE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM 1983 THE YEAR OF THE BIBLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS, EACH IN HIS OR HER OWN WAY, TO REEXAMINE
AND REDISCOVERING IT’S PRICELESS AND TIMELESS MESSAGE.
FEBRUARY 3, 1983, 9:00 am-est
 
While the U.S.A. was founded by Christians, today the U.S.A. is a pluralistic society.
At the political level we are talking about time and temporal authority.
At the theological level we are talking about eternity and final authority.

KJV Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them,
Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's,
and to God the things that are God's.
And they marvelled at him.
 

#11. The Lord persevered his words unto all generations.

Psalms 12:6-7
6 The words of the LORD are pure words:
as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them
from this generation for ever.

When the Lord gave scripture to O.T. Jews, he gave it to them in their language.
When the Lord gave scripture to N.T. Christians, he gave it to them in the language of the day.
Then the Lord gave nations Holy Bibles in their language.

Finally, the Lord gave the entire world Holy Bibles in the universal language,
which was translated into languages throughout the world.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most translated bible of all time .
The KJV Holy Bible is the most translated book of all time .

#12. Predestination, inspiration and providence continued throughout
canonization and publication of scripture.

While the entire line of scripture are records, the outstanding record of scripture
and the scripture of final authority is the published text and form
of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, read and loved bible of all time .

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, read and loved book of all time .







 
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maxwel

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Sorry, my thread was invaded by angry amateur theologians.

They have almost killed my thread !


So you're a PROFESSIONAL theologian?


Ok. Back that up.

What are your credentials?

At which seminary do you teach?
 
Apr 13, 2015
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So you're a PROFESSIONAL theologian?


Ok. Back that up.

What are your credentials?

At which seminary do you teach?

I'll tell you one time.

I won't discuss it or even considering giving you personal information .

I have a B.S. from a liberal arts college, M.C.E. completing graduate studies at both Catholic

and Baptist Seminaries and 21 yrs. postdoctoral Ed.D. in higher education .

I collate the university sciences and lecture the central university thesis .
 
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If you want to make an argument for the KJV,
this is an extremely verbose and circuitous way to go about it.
#8. Academic Theology categorically and conclusively
demonstrates the apologetics of the KJV Holy Bible.

#10. KJV Holy Bible Christians founded the U.S.A.,
and wrote the Constitution, the Bill of Rights
and the Proclamation of Emancipation.
Maxwell, you are pretty good to understand hidden agenda. Very impressive!
 
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JesusIsAll

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Maxwell, you are pretty good to understand hidden agenda. Very impressive!
Really! Had me oblivious and bamboozilated, though that doesn't take much.
 

crossnote

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Well, maybe we don't need universities, colleges or seminaries !

Maybe, you should contact Harvard, Yale and Princeton and let them know .





What are you calling his Word, scripture ?

What scripture do you have ?


I'm out of the milk line, remember.
 

maxwel

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I'll tell you one time.

I won't discuss it or even considering giving you personal information .

I have a B.S. from a liberal arts college, M.C.E. completing graduate studies at both Catholic

and Baptist Seminaries and 21 yrs. postdoctoral Ed.D. in higher education .

I collate the university sciences and lecture the central university thesis .

That's perfectly fine.

But there's also no reason for anyone here to believe you.



So... you really need to stop being so rude and condescending to everyone.

Seriously, I can claim to be an astronaut.