There Are Many Scriptures That Disprove The Trinity
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Yes there is one God, which consists of three persons. It’s called the God head, God the father which is spirit, God The son Jesus Christ, God the Holy Spirit. The son is submissive to the father and the Holy Spirit to the son. All three are co-equal in being God but have different roles. You can address you prayers to any of the three as they are the same God. What God is NOT is one God in different modes at different times and we see this as all three are present at Jesus baptism. We see all three at creation and we see two of them at the mount of transfiguration.
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So what does Genesis 1:26 prove? English please. It doesn't prove a trinity at all 
God in this verse in the Hebrew is Plural not singular.
Cults like the Watchtower Track society control everything, and its all issued from within its own organization so they can better control people, they also practice something called love bobming so it becomes very hard to leave they will so come around people so that they can cut them off from their own flesh and blood then its very hard to leave.
How come none of the writers of the epistles recognise the holy spirit as God in their introduction check for yourself
[h=3]Galatians 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
[h=3]Ephesians 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
[h=3]Colossians 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
[h=3]Colossians 1:15-19[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
All of creation no trinity
[h=3]Galatians 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
[h=3]Ephesians 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
[h=3]Colossians 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
[h=3]Colossians 1:15-19[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
All of creation no trinity
Does the carnal nature understand the Spirit of God?
1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
How come none of the writers of the epistles recognise the holy spirit as God in their introduction check for yourself
Galatians 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Ephesians 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Colossians 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
Colossians 1:15-19
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
All of creation no trinity
Galatians 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Ephesians 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Colossians 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
Colossians 1:15-19
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
All of creation no trinity
And is not this same Holy Spirit of truth, which is Father that we are delivered to as Holy before Father by Son's death, is who has come to live in us and through us as in the day of Pentecost? And I am not promoting one has to speak in tongues.
So there is and there is not a trinity, yet when another is born again, do theyt not as well become one is Spirit and truth?
Just saying 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 = ONE forever right? Yet many, go figure, God does know what God is doing and this I rest in, even if this mystery can't be expl;ained, yet will be in Heaven when I am finally out of this unredeemed flesh suit
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Are you speaking in plain English or in theological terms?
As far as I know God is not a person and not a being. The bible says He is spirit.
No doubt the Son is submissive to the Father but where in the bible say the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son?
All three are co-equal? The Son says the Father is greater than I and you just said the Son is submissive to the Father.
Prayers to any of the three? The Son teaches us to pray to the Father in His name.
Do you believe in eternal sonship i.e. He is always the Son even before the beginning of time?
As far as I know God is not a person and not a being. The bible says He is spirit.
No doubt the Son is submissive to the Father but where in the bible say the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son?
All three are co-equal? The Son says the Father is greater than I and you just said the Son is submissive to the Father.
Prayers to any of the three? The Son teaches us to pray to the Father in His name.
Do you believe in eternal sonship i.e. He is always the Son even before the beginning of time?
I can't see what you see but if you read the scriptures you would know...Red is not equal to blue
[h=3]1 Corinthians 15:24-28[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
[h=3]1 Corinthians 15:24-28[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
It means there is one God...
John 1:1-3
King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
John 1:1-3
King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
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Biblical literature and mathmatics both proclaim that God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ are 2 separate beings. When ever you put an "and" between 2 names, by literary definition it requires that there are 2 distinct people behind each name. Hence, when Paul is saying hello to the saints, he often opens his epistle by saying grace be with you from God the Father "and" from our Lord Jesus Christ. If they were the same being he would have used different literary verbiage, something like grace be unto you from God. Thats the Biblical literature part.
In mathmatics, when you use "and" it means to "add". For example: there is 1 apple on the table "and" 1 apple on the floor. How many total apples are there? The key word is "and". In mathmatics, the "and" requires you to "add" the 1 apple on the table with the 1 apple on the floor to get the right answer, which is 2 apples. If you were to "multiply" the 1 apple on the table with the 1 apple on the floor your answer would be 1 apple, which is the wrong answer. If you were to "divide" you would get 1, which is the wrong answer. If you were to subtract you would get 0, which is the wrong answer. That is the math part.
So when you read the beginning of the epistles, think about it again and believe in the Bible as it is written, because it does speaks the truth.
In mathmatics, when you use "and" it means to "add". For example: there is 1 apple on the table "and" 1 apple on the floor. How many total apples are there? The key word is "and". In mathmatics, the "and" requires you to "add" the 1 apple on the table with the 1 apple on the floor to get the right answer, which is 2 apples. If you were to "multiply" the 1 apple on the table with the 1 apple on the floor your answer would be 1 apple, which is the wrong answer. If you were to "divide" you would get 1, which is the wrong answer. If you were to subtract you would get 0, which is the wrong answer. That is the math part.
So when you read the beginning of the epistles, think about it again and believe in the Bible as it is written, because it does speaks the truth.
You are absolutely right about the Godhead being present at the baptism of Jesus. This is a rare occasion when all 3 are present at the same time. But has it ever made you wonder how could they be 1 God consisting of 3 persons, or 3 persons in 1 being, when the baptism event clearly testifies of something quite different.
Close your eyes and picture yourself at the baptism. According to scripture you see Jesus coming out of the Jordan river, and at the same time you hear God the Father speaking from the heavens and you look up and see a cloud and hear his voice say, "this is My Son, in whom I am well please, hear ye him". You also see the Holy Spirit coming down from heaven being between Jesus on the ground and God the Father in the cloud and finally settling upon Jesus. This would have been a powerful moment in your life when you were in the presence of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
The next day someone runs up to you and says, "I've been thinking about the nature of God and His Son and the Holy Ghost.
This is what I think. They are 3 persons in 1 being.
You think to yourself, I have just witnessed the true nature of God and His Son and the Holy Ghost and you reply to him, "they are not 1 being or 1 God, they are 3 separate beings, for I was there at the babtism and while Jesus was on the ground by the water, his Father, God was behind a cloud in heaven and the Holy Ghost was between them, all at the same moment in time".
You would continue, "Yes, they are a Trinity because they are 3, but they are not 1 being, they are 3 separate beings, with their special rolls and hierarchy, and equal in glory and majesty in the Holy Godhead".
Reread Matthew 3:16-17 and ask yourself are there 3 separate beings present or is there just 1 being present and you will see what I mean. They, however, are truly 1 God, not because they are phisically in 1 being, but because the 3 are of one mind, and will, and purpose and and the 3 work in perfect harmonious unison. It is the only way that you can reconcile all the scriptures in the Bible about the nature of the Godhead. Then reread the transfiguration of Christ. Same conclusion. Good reading.
Close your eyes and picture yourself at the baptism. According to scripture you see Jesus coming out of the Jordan river, and at the same time you hear God the Father speaking from the heavens and you look up and see a cloud and hear his voice say, "this is My Son, in whom I am well please, hear ye him". You also see the Holy Spirit coming down from heaven being between Jesus on the ground and God the Father in the cloud and finally settling upon Jesus. This would have been a powerful moment in your life when you were in the presence of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
The next day someone runs up to you and says, "I've been thinking about the nature of God and His Son and the Holy Ghost.
This is what I think. They are 3 persons in 1 being.
You think to yourself, I have just witnessed the true nature of God and His Son and the Holy Ghost and you reply to him, "they are not 1 being or 1 God, they are 3 separate beings, for I was there at the babtism and while Jesus was on the ground by the water, his Father, God was behind a cloud in heaven and the Holy Ghost was between them, all at the same moment in time".
You would continue, "Yes, they are a Trinity because they are 3, but they are not 1 being, they are 3 separate beings, with their special rolls and hierarchy, and equal in glory and majesty in the Holy Godhead".
Reread Matthew 3:16-17 and ask yourself are there 3 separate beings present or is there just 1 being present and you will see what I mean. They, however, are truly 1 God, not because they are phisically in 1 being, but because the 3 are of one mind, and will, and purpose and and the 3 work in perfect harmonious unison. It is the only way that you can reconcile all the scriptures in the Bible about the nature of the Godhead. Then reread the transfiguration of Christ. Same conclusion. Good reading.