THERE WILL BE NO SALVATION FOR THOSE THAT WILL BE ON THIS EARTH DURING THE 1000 YEARS

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It is the Jew (Judah and FIRST, then also the gentiles (lost 10 tribes of Israel).
 
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both righteous and the wicked are on the earth during the 1000 years

[h=3]Psalm 72[/h]King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]He shall judge thy people with righteousness, and thy poor with judgment.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]They shall fear thee as long as the sun and moon endure, throughout all generations.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]He shall come down like rain upon the mown grass: as showers that water the earth.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In his days shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.
 
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It is the Jew (Judah and FIRST, then also the gentiles (lost 10 tribes of Israel).
Um. A jew is a person from the tribe of Dan and Judah and levites who lived in the northern kingdom.

A child of Israel would be the rest of the children of Jacob, and in actually would include a jew. No gentile is included.
 

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Um. A jew is a person from the tribe of Dan and Judah and levites who lived in the northern kingdom.

A child of Israel would be the rest of the children of Jacob, and in actually would include a jew. No gentile is included.
Once a "gentile" follows the Messsiah they are no longer a "gentile" but an Israylite.

Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though Yahweh's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are Yahweh's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."

Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is Yahweh our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."

Galations 3:28,29, "Is there not the Yahdai as well as the Greek; Gentile? Is there not the slave as well as the freeman? Is there not the male and the female? For all of you must be in unity in Yahshua Messiah. And if you are in Messiah, then
you are a seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise."

Psalam 89:26-37, "He will call out to Me; You are my Father, O Yahweh! You are the Rock of my salvation! And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish his Seed forever, and his throne will be as the days of heaven. Should his children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change the Law that has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness--I cannot lie, and I say to David: His Seed will endure forever, and his throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky."
 
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both righteous and the wicked are on the earth during the 1000 years


The righteous will rule the wicked with a rod of iron

Revelation 2

[SUP]26 [/SUP]And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

[SUP]27 [/SUP]And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

[SUP]28 [/SUP]And I will give him the morning star.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 12

1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

[SUP]2 [/SUP]And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And she brought forth a man child ( Jesus ), who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne
Obadiah
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.
 
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When Jesus Christ comes again to collect the saved, just before Satan will be bound for 1000 years, there will be no more saved ones on this earth once He has taken them up to Him on the cloud, and for those that is left behind, there will be no more chance to be saved. Only Satan's angels and the living unsaved will remain on this earth and do anyone think that Satan's angels will try and convince the unsaved to repent? Satan will be locked up in the pit of darkness for 1000 years and maybe his angels will then realize that he is not the god of light ie. Lucifer.
satan and his angels will be locked up in the pit for a 1000yrs

Isaiah 24

King James Version (KJV)

24 Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

[SUP]23 [/SUP]Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.




 
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Once a "gentile" follows the Messsiah they are no longer a "gentile" but an Israylite.

Nope. In Christ there is no jew or gentile. But all children of God.


Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though Yahweh's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are Yahweh's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."

Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is Yahweh our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."

Galations 3:28,29, "Is there not the Yahdai as well as the Greek; Gentile? Is there not the slave as well as the freeman? Is there not the male and the female? For all of you must be in unity in Yahshua Messiah. And if you are in Messiah, then
you are a seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise."

Psalam 89:26-37, "He will call out to Me; You are my Father, O Yahweh! You are the Rock of my salvation! And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish his Seed forever, and his throne will be as the days of heaven. Should his children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change the Law that has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness--I cannot lie, and I say to David: His Seed will endure forever, and his throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky."
Yet romans 11 lets us know God still has a plan for natural children of Israel. Mp gentile is incuded in this plan. Paul separates jew and gentile in romans 11. We should not in this context try to make them 1

 
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When Jesus Christ comes again to collect the saved, just before Satan will be bound for 1000 years, there will be no more saved ones on this earth once He has taken them up to Him on the cloud, and for those that is left behind, there will be no more chance to be saved. Only Satan's angels and the living unsaved will remain on this earth and do anyone think that Satan's angels will try and convince the unsaved to repent? Satan will be locked up in the pit of darkness for 1000 years and maybe his angels will then realize that he is not the god of light ie. Lucifer.

satan angels will not realize anything they already know that he is false but he is more powerful that him so they have to obey him
one even told Jesus has thou come to torment us before our time so they all know that they are doomed


But the people of the world will know who satan is and look on him and his angels in the pit on the EARTH

[SUP]ISAIAH 14

12 [/SUP]How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

[SUP]13 [/SUP]For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

[SUP]17 [/SUP]That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
[SUP]18 [/SUP]All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
 
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Nope. In Christ there is no jew or gentile. But all children of God.




Yet romans 11 lets us know God still has a plan for natural children of Israel. Mp gentile is incuded in this plan. Paul separates jew and gentile in romans 11. We should not in this context try to make them 1

Romans 9:6-8, "...For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl"
 
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Um. A jew is a person from the tribe of Dan and Judah and levites who lived in the northern kingdom.

A child of Israel would be the rest of the children of Jacob, and in actually would include a jew. No gentile is included.
Judah is made up of that tribe and Benjamin. Dan is of the 10 and the house of Jacob.
 
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From the clearest Scripture in the Bible, the Gospels and the Epistles, we can gather that Christ has already been "given all authority on heaven and on earth", and that all men who put their trust in Him will be saved. If anyone puts faith in Christ before the Judgement, they will be saved.
Scripture says that the Sanctified Ones (Christians and OT saints) and Christ will be reigning during the "1000 years)... So Christ and His followers will be able to witness to the unsaved personally....
 
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Romans 9:6-8, "...For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl"
Romans 9 speaks of the promise of abraham, In you shall all nations of the world be blessed. Jews do not get an automatic in like they thought.

Your ignoring romans 11. Gentiles are the unnatural branch which were grafted in. But do not get puffed up. For all isreal (National children of Jacob) will be saved.
 
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I am a Child of Abraham. Therefore I am a Hebrew. My old self was Irish Italian Scottish and Swedish. I am a new man in Christ, with a new genealogy that is only one line long: a son of God.
 
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Romans 9 speaks of the promise of abraham, In you shall all nations of the world be blessed. Jews do not get an automatic in like they thought.

Your ignoring romans 11. Gentiles are the unnatural branch which were grafted in. But do not get puffed up. For all isreal (National children of Jacob) will be saved.
NO no no.... only a remnant. not all.
 
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I am a Child of Abraham. Therefore I am a Hebrew. My old self was Irish Italian Scottish and Swedish. I am a new man in Christ, with a new genealogy that is only one line long: a son of God.

Yes, Abraham, who came from Eber. from where the term hebrew comes from. Jacobs 12 children where not the only hebrews!
 
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Romans 9 speaks of the promise of abraham, In you shall all nations of the world be blessed. Jews do not get an automatic in like they thought.

Your ignoring romans 11. Gentiles are the unnatural branch which were grafted in. But do not get puffed up. For all isreal (National children of Jacob) will be saved.

The elect of Israel would be saved for God name sake which is different from gentiles
 
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NO no no.... only a remnant. not all.
The remnant is saved today. God keeps a remnant to keep the line in tack and not destroy the line. But there will come a day when prophesy will be fulfilled. and there will not just be a remnant, but all isreal will be saved.

rom 11: [SUP]25 [/SUP]For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part (the remnant is not blind) has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. [SUP]26 [/SUP]And so all Israel will be saved,[SUP][g][/SUP] as it is written:

“The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For this is My covenant with them,

When I take away their sins.”[SUP][h][/SUP]


 
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The elect of Israel would be saved for God name sake which is different from gentiles
All people are saved for Gods name sake, he is not a respector of persons. He does have a covenant with Israel though. Which still stands. that is the only difference.
 

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Romans 9 speaks of the promise of abraham, In you shall all nations of the world be blessed. Jews do not get an automatic in like they thought.

Your ignoring romans 11. Gentiles are the unnatural branch which were grafted in. But do not get puffed up. For all isreal (National children of Jacob) will be saved.
All Isarayl will be saved, but Israyl is not a physical bloodline, it is the followers of Messiah. Also maybe I misunderstood you but you said, "Jews do not get an automatic in like they thought" and then "For all isreal (National children of Jacob) will be saved" . ??????????????????????


IDK what the Jews thought but I NEVER said anyone gets an automatic pass, actually the verses I just quoted said exactly they dont...

Also this grafting goes before the NT, however only made possible by Yahweh;s plan of Salvation, Yahshua.

Numbers 15:15-16, "One ordinance shall be for you of the congregation, and for the stranger who sojourns with you, as an ordinance forever throughout your generations. As you are, so shall the stranger be in front of Yahweh. One Law and one manner shall be for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you."

Exodus 12:48-49, "And when a stranger lives among you and wants to sacrifice the Passover to Yahweh, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near, and sacrifice it; and he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it. One Law shall be for the nativeborn and for the stranger who dwells among you."

Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing any evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which please Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."