thy law is the truth

[bleekerT]

Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth. - Psalm 119:142, KJV

I was overjoyed when the brothers and sisters arrived and spoke highly of your faithfulness to the truth, shown by how you live according to the truth. - 3Jn3, CEB


I was overjoyed to find some of your children living in the truth, just as we had been commanded by the Father. - 2Jn4, CEB


Therefore, we ought to help people like this so that we can be coworkers with the truth. - 3Jn8, CEB

 

[homwardbound]

So what is the truth?
Galatians 2:14When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?
2 Corinthians 12:6Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say,
2 Corinthians 4:2Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God.
1 Corinthians 13:6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

God just love us all that he sent his only begotten Son to be our redemption for us so by this we can come to newness of life by the resurrection of christ and serve God in truth by the new Spirit of God that God placed in us the very first day of belief
[h=3]Ephesians 1:1-13[/h]New International Version (NIV)

1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God,
To God’s holy people in Ephesus, the faithful in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
[h=3]Praise for Spiritual Blessings in Christ[/h][SUP]3 [/SUP]Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love [SUP]5 [/SUP]he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— [SUP]6 [/SUP]to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. [SUP]7 [/SUP]In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace [SUP]8 [/SUP]that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, [SUP]9 [/SUP]he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, [SUP]10 [/SUP]to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, [SUP]12 [/SUP]in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,

 

[jerusalem]

Matt. 22 :35 - 40 one of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with this question: Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law? Jesus replied: love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. this is the first and greatest commandment. and the second is like it: love your neighbor as yourself. all the law andthe prophets hang on these two commandments.

 

[psalm6819]

Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh to the Father but by Me." John 14:

All truth flows from this foundation. (Jesus)

 

[Bowman]

Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth. - Psalm 119:142, KJV

I was overjoyed when the brothers and sisters arrived and spoke highly of your faithfulness to the truth, shown by how you live according to the truth. - 3Jn3, CEB


I was overjoyed to find some of your children living in the truth, just as we had been commanded by the Father. - 2Jn4, CEB


Therefore, we ought to help people like this so that we can be coworkers with the truth. - 3Jn8, CEB

Jesus is 'The Truth' in both the Holy Bible and the Koran.

 

[piper27]

Holiness is a byproduct of love, not the means by which love is received.(following the law)
Holiness isn't something that God does. It is His very nature. It's who and what He is. All the moral laws revealed in Scripture are just reflections of who God was before Scripture was ever written. Likewise, our holiness is a product of who we are (when we accept our salvation) and not what we do.

Through the new birth, every one of us believers received a righteous nature. Our actions didn't produce the new nature, but the new nature will produce actions if we allow it to dominate our thinking. As we let the love of God that was deposited in our born-again spirits flow through us, holiness becomes a fruit, not a root, of our salvation.

 

[RedTent]

When we read scripture without learning anything about what the people who are talking in scripture were facing in their everyday life, but think it is just like what we face 2,000 years later, we get mixed up. All of it is showing us the eternal principles of God that never changes, but sometimes it uses happenings of that day to show us these principles.

For instance, when they spoke of food it did not include some of the things that we consider food. The idea of eating meat from an animal that ate only refuse from the bottom of the ocean or from the streets simply wasn't, in their vocabulary, food.

For thousands of years, their race knew of God and the people who were not of their race did not. That is just how it was, always had been. If someone saw that they knew the true God and wanted to join them, they had to first go through rituals to become Jews. All of you know how people feel about change, even in little things. If you go to a restaurant, even, you want salad first, the main course, then desert. That is a simple thing you want not to change. This was a BIG thing that changed when the gospel was taken to the gentiles. Our idea that there is Judaism and there is Christ and the two couldn't be together, but a new religion is formed came later. It was at least 70 whole years after the crucifixion when the gentiles took over leadership that idea came in. In their eyes Judaism wasn't only rituals.

When the gentiles accepted Christ, they did that without knowing a thing about God. They were babies in Christ, and they were to go to synagogue to learn for that is the only scripture they had, the only place God principles were taught. They weren't allowed in synagogue unless they obeyed some fundamental rules in living, and that is why they were given these basic laws in Acts.

Some of the Jews, leaders of the church, decided that the change in rules for accepting Christ that were given were not good enough, they had to become Jews first, like had always been. Imagine our missionaries going out telling people to be circumcised instead of giving them the gospel message!!

If you read Galatians, for instance, for God principles, knowing the circumstances the book is addressing, you get a better understanding than if you read it as a book talking to you as things are in 2013.

 

[RedTent]

My point is that some people get what is meant by the law in scripture mixed up with instructions that we don't have to be circumcised to be saved. Or that Christ saves us from death through forgiveness, therefore we aren't under the law to mean that we can forget about the written law, so the law isn't love and truth.

As in psalm 119, explaining to us just what the law is, the law is truth.

 

[Laodicea]

There are 3 texts in the Bible that tell us what is truth.
Psalms 119:142 KJV
(142) Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
John 14:6 KJV
(6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 17:17 KJV
(17) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

 

[Blain]

I do not feel bound to the Law but i try to follow it because I love him, The truth Is Jesus and Jesus an God made the law so therefore the law is truth. But there are hidden truths that the world has yet to know because these truths are only revealed from a hungry heart- a heart that hungers for the father.
I know I have said this many times but it is very important that people listen. If anyone wishes to know the deep hidden things of God, secrets hidden from the eyes and hearts of man then seek the lords heart. If someone wishes to know just exactly who God is and wants to know the depth of his love then one must seek his heart. And if anyone wishes to know the truth then he must seek his heart. Even now the lord searches the world for seekers of his heart, such hearts are hungry for him with a thirst that never seems to be quenched

 

[john832]

Well allrighty then, we finally get to use Rom 10:4 in context...

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

end:

G5056
τέλος
telos
tel'-os
From a primary word τέλλω tellō (to set out for a definite point or goal); properly the point aimed at as a limit, that is, (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state (termination [literally, figuratively or indefinitely], result [immediate, ultimate or prophetic], purpose); specifically an impost or levy (as paid): - + continual, custom, end (-ing), finally, uttermost. Compare G5411.

Christ is the end result of the Law. When you see Christ you see the Law. The Father and Christ do not live by their Law, the Law actually describes how the Father and Christ live. The Law describes them.

 

[homwardbound]

There are 3 texts in the Bible that tell us what is truth.
Psalms 119:142 KJV
(142) Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
John 14:6 KJV
(6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 17:17 KJV
(17) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

You qouted "Psalms 119:142 KJV
(142) Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth."

What Law are you saying is truth, and what Law are you saying to follow when after the new Covenant death and resurrection the Law Ten commandments ands ceremonial Laws are fulfilled
Christ came to fulfill law and Prophets, he did this and then went to the cross and died,
Matthew 5:17[ Christ Fulfills the Law ] “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
After doing this he went to the cross and yelled out it

John 19:28[ It Is Finished ] After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, “I thirst!”
John 19:30So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.

Law all fulfilled, what did this do at his death
Hebrews 9:15And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:16
[ The Mediator’s Death Necessary ] For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Hebrews 9:17For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.

So are we under Law today after the cross form God once we believe?
Romans 10:4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

So righteousness comes form God through Christ at the cross, especially the resurrected part or don't we know
Romans 6:3Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
Romans 6:4Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

By Faith we do this , not by works
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

God gets all the credit, we credit this to God not selfs, ever. It is God's finished work for us to praise God, we did nothiong except come to belief, and works of God burst through in the Love of God towards every man

 

[homwardbound]

I do not feel bound to the Law but i try to follow it because I love him, The truth Is Jesus and Jesus an God made the law so therefore the law is truth. But there are hidden truths that the world has yet to know because these truths are only revealed from a hungry heart- a heart that hungers for the father.
I know I have said this many times but it is very important that people listen. If anyone wishes to know the deep hidden things of God, secrets hidden from the eyes and hearts of man then seek the lords heart. If someone wishes to know just exactly who God is and wants to know the depth of his love then one must seek his heart. And if anyone wishes to know the truth then he must seek his heart. Even now the lord searches the world for seekers of his heart, such hearts are hungry for him with a thirst that never seems to be quenched

And then we might see truth that God can only
John 4:23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
John 4:24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

 

[homwardbound]

Well allrighty then, we finally get to use Rom 10:4 in context...

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

end:

G5056
τέλος
telos
tel'-os
From a primary word τέλλω tellō (to set out for a definite point or goal); properly the point aimed at as a limit, that is, (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state (termination [literally, figuratively or indefinitely], result [immediate, ultimate or prophetic], purpose); specifically an impost or levy (as paid): - + continual, custom, end (-ing), finally, uttermost. Compare G5411.

Christ is the end result of the Law. When you see Christ you see the Law. The Father and Christ do not live by their Law, the Law actually describes how the Father and Christ live. The Law describes them.

and what is the fulfillment of the Law?
Romans 13:10Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Would this be only those that love you or agree with you, what about those that do not love youback or agree with you?
Matthew 5:46For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
Matthew 5:47And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
Matthew 21:31Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said to Him, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you.
Matthew 21:32For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him; but tax collectors and harlots believed him; and when you saw it, you did not afterward relent and believe him.

 

[john832]

and what is the fulfillment of the Law?
Romans 13:10Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Would this be only those that love you or agree with you, what about those that do not love youback or agree with you?
Matthew 5:46For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
Matthew 5:47And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
Matthew 21:31Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said to Him, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you.
Matthew 21:32For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him; but tax collectors and harlots believed him; and when you saw it, you did not afterward relent and believe him.

Just out of curiosity, when you fill a glass full of water (fulfill it) do you smash it? Or has it become more than it was before fulfilling it. Christ came to fill the Law full with a deeper meaning, yet to many, fulfilling the Law seems to mean obliterating it. Just to add a little scripture to this...

Isa 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

magnify:

H1431
גּדל
gâdal
gaw-dal'
A primitive root; properly to twist (compare H1434), that is, to be (causatively make) large (in various senses, as in body, mind, estate or honor, also in pride): - advance, boast, bring up, exceed, excellent, be (-come, do, give, make, wax), great (-er, come to . . estate, + things), grow (up), increase, lift up, magnify (-ifical), be much set by, nourish (up), pass, promote, proudly [spoken], tower.

honourable:

H142
אדר
'âdar
aw-dar
A primitive root; to expand, that is, be great or (figuratively) magnificent: - (become) glorious, honourable.

What part of this statement indicates He did away with the Law? or how about the following...

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

I would tread very softly around the idea that teaching people that you don't have to obey that old "Jewish" Law is acceptable.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

What part of this statement indicates He did away with the Law? or how about the following...

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

I would tread very softly around the idea that teaching people that you don't have to obey that old "Jewish" Law is acceptable.

I would be very careful about trying to ensnare little ones into bondage of the law.

Jesus said that nothing would pass from the law until it was fulfilled. He then fulfilled the law. All of the law has now passed away and been replaced by a newer, better law - the law of faith.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus is 'The Truth' in both the Holy Bible and the Koran.

There are two Jesus' in the different books.

In the Bible. The law brings us to jesus as a tutor. as no mater how hard we try, we can not fulfill the law. We all have sinned and fallen short.

The law also tells us that once we have broken the law. we are separated from God. Access to god could only come through a high priest, and only after he went through massive ceremonial washings and purified himself (if he did not, he would die once he entered the Holy of Holy's)

Also, Since sin was continually present, Sacrifice and burnt offering had to continually be present, because the law also showed, a sacrifice of an innocent was the only means through which sin could be forgiven.

These sacrifices continued until Jesus, who became the "lamb slain for the sins of his people" the perfect sacrifice, which only his could remove the penalty of sin.

the law showed us only one man could mediate between God and us, the high priest, but even his mediation was flawed, because it could never take away sin, The bible tells us Christ, having died once, fulfilled what the law could not do. He fulfilled the perfect sacrifice for all men, no longer is man relegated to only one having the ability to be present before God, but the veil, being torn in two. opened the door for ALL MEN AND WOMEN to have access to God through Christ, the perfect mediator who sits at the right hand of God making intercession for his people every moment of every day. because as he said "It is finished"

The law can not save us, all it can do is condemn us, the first sin we commit, we are judged rightly as condemned under the law. We can not make up for our sin by doing good works, Doing religious ceremony, or doing anything, the guilty can not pay for their own sin, the penalty of sin is death, this death, or separation from God, will continue until that sin debt is paid. We can not pay our own sin debt, only Christ could. if there could be another way, God would have taken the cup from Jesus, As he asked him to. there is NO OTHER WAY to heaven but Jesus and his death burial and resurrection. to teach anything else is to teach another gospel. and that gospel is no gospel at all.

The koran does not treach this. it teaches Jesus was a prophet who was martyred. His death has no eternal significants for the removal of sin, thus the koran is in error and will do nothing but lead people to hell.

 

[Widdekind]

Law = Word(s) of God = Jesus (Rev 19)

There are 3 texts in the Bible that tell us what is truth.
Psalms 119:142 KJV
(142) Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
John 14:6 KJV
(6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 17:17 KJV
(17) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

 

[john832]

I would be very careful about trying to ensnare little ones into bondage of the law.

Jesus said that nothing would pass from the law until it was fulfilled. He then fulfilled the law. All of the law has now passed away and been replaced by a newer, better law - the law of faith.

OK, if all is fulfilled and the Law is passed away, when did this happen?

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

The Great Tribulation has already past?

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Christ has returned and gathered the saints, the elect? Well rats, looks like you and I missed it.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The Devil has been incarcerated? The Millenium has come and gone?

So is all this fulfilled? If all is fulfilled, where is New Jerusalem?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

OK, if all is fulfilled and the Law is passed away, when did this happen?

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

The Great Tribulation has already past?

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Christ has returned and gathered the saints, the elect? Well rats, looks like you and I missed it.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The Devil has been incarcerated? The Millenium has come and gone?

So is all this fulfilled? If all is fulfilled, where is New Jerusalem?

non of the things you spoke of have anything to do with the law. thus are not in context.. The nothing that would pass concerned the law. not the prophesy of future events..