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How many pentecostals would enlist their children here ? Please answer seriously and truthfully.
Children Move Into Intercession - YouTube
Children Move Into Intercession - YouTube
See what I mean ^^^^
All they do is accuse.
I tell you Uncle Fester one thing I wouldn't do.......intrust anyone to an accuser like you.
- (There are much better quality ones...such as Lucifer for instance)
- - I mean, if I really wanted to raise someone to trust God? - The last person I would send them to is you.
- - - You are a patent accuser. You make your living off of it.
- - - - All you have done is accuse.
(Any actual thoughts for yourself?) - (As in representing actual doctrine?)
- Please enumerate them then.
All they do is accuse.
I tell you Uncle Fester one thing I wouldn't do.......intrust anyone to an accuser like you.
- (There are much better quality ones...such as Lucifer for instance)
- - I mean, if I really wanted to raise someone to trust God? - The last person I would send them to is you.
- - - You are a patent accuser. You make your living off of it.
- - - - All you have done is accuse.
(Any actual thoughts for yourself?) - (As in representing actual doctrine?)
- Please enumerate them then.
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Read Acts - Ac 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
For these people their delusion will not even be corrected by scripture. If you want scriptural evidence there it is in Acts 2:11. Pentecostals' claim devotion to scripture but actually they delude themselves by telling themselves they are devoted to the Bible.
As you can see from the pasted verse speaking in tongues is identified easily and clearly as speaking of the works of God.
This scriptural fact will make no difference to true babbling believers because they have an experience which confirms the validity of this gibberish. This is very similar to the Mormons who know they are right because they have a burning in their bosom that makes them certain that they are correct.
They will adhere to their babbling because it is their mark of spirituality.
Brian
For these people their delusion will not even be corrected by scripture. If you want scriptural evidence there it is in Acts 2:11. Pentecostals' claim devotion to scripture but actually they delude themselves by telling themselves they are devoted to the Bible.
As you can see from the pasted verse speaking in tongues is identified easily and clearly as speaking of the works of God.
This scriptural fact will make no difference to true babbling believers because they have an experience which confirms the validity of this gibberish. This is very similar to the Mormons who know they are right because they have a burning in their bosom that makes them certain that they are correct.
They will adhere to their babbling because it is their mark of spirituality.
Brian
From reading I Corinthians 14, I don't really think group intercession in tongues all at the same time is appropriate for the church. One at time with interpretation, otherwise do it outside of church is how I see it.
That doesn't mean I think that all tongues in churches that do this are fake. Of course not. The Corinthians were likely using the gift in a disorderly manner, but the real gift nonetheless.
That doesn't mean I think that all tongues in churches that do this are fake. Of course not. The Corinthians were likely using the gift in a disorderly manner, but the real gift nonetheless.
N
I don't quite understand what it is you are asking. If you mean to ask "Does every believer have the potential to speak in tongues?", then I would have to say, "yes." However, just because believers have the potential to speak in tongues does not necessarily mean that all believers will speak in tongues. Furthermore, there is no part of Scripture which dictates "all believers" are to speak in tongues or have the ability to do so. In fact, Paul states clearly in 1 Corinthians 12 that just as there are many members of the body, so it is with the church. Likewise, just as there are many gifts of the Holy Spirit, they all come from the same Spirit.
J
Lets add abit more weight to this...first of all @zone..your doctrine disagrees with tongues so its understandable...anyway....
Tongues are indeed heavenly..this scripture opens that up further...
1 Cor 13:1
"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."
This is not Paul being hypothetical by saying "if we speak in tongues of angels...then...", this is him implying that we do speak in a heavenly language through the Holy Spirit and love shouldnt be absent or the heavenly tongue would be ineffective.
The day of Pentecost gives us insight into the utterance of earthly languages by the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:5-11)...The book of Acts gives us an indication that prophecy and tongues are a Sign of a Holy Spirit filled believer...
Acts 19:1-6
“And it happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the inland country and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples. And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” They said, “Into John's baptism.” And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.” On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying. There were about twelve men in all.”
Apostle Paul goes deeper here…
1 Cor 14:2
“For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.
This confirms that…
· Tongues are a mysterious connection to the very Spirit of God
· We speak in tongues not to please man, but to enter the very depth of the Spirit of God
· Unveiling the mysteries into our spirits.
· Speaking in tongues opens your spirit up, to the Spirit of God
But 1 Cor 12:10 confirms that it’s a GIFT…that God CHOOSES to instil in a believer…I remember John Piper admitting that he does not have the Gift of Tongues and understands why as a Teacher of the Word
Tongues are indeed heavenly..this scripture opens that up further...
1 Cor 13:1
"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."
This is not Paul being hypothetical by saying "if we speak in tongues of angels...then...", this is him implying that we do speak in a heavenly language through the Holy Spirit and love shouldnt be absent or the heavenly tongue would be ineffective.
The day of Pentecost gives us insight into the utterance of earthly languages by the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:5-11)...The book of Acts gives us an indication that prophecy and tongues are a Sign of a Holy Spirit filled believer...
Acts 19:1-6
“And it happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the inland country and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples. And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” They said, “Into John's baptism.” And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.” On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying. There were about twelve men in all.”
Apostle Paul goes deeper here…
1 Cor 14:2
“For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.
This confirms that…
· Tongues are a mysterious connection to the very Spirit of God
· We speak in tongues not to please man, but to enter the very depth of the Spirit of God
· Unveiling the mysteries into our spirits.
· Speaking in tongues opens your spirit up, to the Spirit of God
But 1 Cor 12:10 confirms that it’s a GIFT…that God CHOOSES to instil in a believer…I remember John Piper admitting that he does not have the Gift of Tongues and understands why as a Teacher of the Word
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some people for various reasons are mute, though they have learned to use sign language.
this is still human communication.
so yes, every believer can speak in language, and does every time they have a conversation.
some people are gifted in languages and learn them easily, speaking two or more.
i speak English (the language of the country in which i was born), and a teensy bit of French (another "official" language of the country in which i was born)...just enough to get the dialect wrong and receive scorn from the native french-speakers
but hey - that's just Quebec.
tongues are human languages.
(this is getting ridiculous)
this is still human communication.
so yes, every believer can speak in language, and does every time they have a conversation.
some people are gifted in languages and learn them easily, speaking two or more.
i speak English (the language of the country in which i was born), and a teensy bit of French (another "official" language of the country in which i was born)...just enough to get the dialect wrong and receive scorn from the native french-speakers
but hey - that's just Quebec.
tongues are human languages.
(this is getting ridiculous)
you're pointing to the CC header?
lol.
rick,
let's just K.I.S.S. for now.
starting with Acts 2.
like...did the jews there hear the unlearned Galileans speaking in the languages of the countries in which they (the jews gathered in Jerusalem at Pentecost) were born? including right down to the particular dialects?
was the gift of tongues known human languages?
___ Yes
___ No
lol.
rick,
let's just K.I.S.S. for now.
starting with Acts 2.
like...did the jews there hear the unlearned Galileans speaking in the languages of the countries in which they (the jews gathered in Jerusalem at Pentecost) were born? including right down to the particular dialects?
was the gift of tongues known human languages?
___ Yes
___ No
B
Your question was for Rickz but I will also answer YES and ask you a question. In the church today, would it be out of the realm of God to give a gift of tongues to a member of his body to communicate a message, even the gospel, because a person or group needed to hear in their own language?
YES ___ or NO ___
YES ___ or NO ___
How many pentecostals would enlist their children here ? Please answer seriously and truthfully.
Children Move Into Intercession - YouTube
?? what accuse?
i saw a question posted with a video filmed by pentecostals.
showing people practicing glossolalia.
where's the accusation?
how come you don't answer the question?
it was a legitimate question.
Uncle didn't make that video.
it's quite telling (imo) that nobody says, yep - that's the supernatural gift of languages poured out at Pentecost at work.
that video accurately represents the gift of languages.
i'm wondering out loud what's the intercession part.
where does the praying in tongues for intercession come from?
who are you interceding for if you don't know what you are saying?
well, i guess i'm wondering - is the video representative of how people can learn to trust God?
how does being coached to utter nonsensical noises help anyone know God or communicate with Him, let alone trust Him?
how does this practice teach anyone to trust God?
Children Move Into Intercession - YouTube
?? what accuse?
i saw a question posted with a video filmed by pentecostals.
showing people practicing glossolalia.
where's the accusation?
how come you don't answer the question?
it was a legitimate question.
Uncle didn't make that video.
it's quite telling (imo) that nobody says, yep - that's the supernatural gift of languages poured out at Pentecost at work.
that video accurately represents the gift of languages.
i'm wondering out loud what's the intercession part.
where does the praying in tongues for intercession come from?
who are you interceding for if you don't know what you are saying?
well, i guess i'm wondering - is the video representative of how people can learn to trust God?
how does being coached to utter nonsensical noises help anyone know God or communicate with Him, let alone trust Him?
how does this practice teach anyone to trust God?