Too young to preach?

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Why bother they will fit in perfectly somewhere with one of the 55.000 differing denominations.
I think PC is mature enough to teach in limited capacity. (More teaching in a home meeting than a pastor.) You, on the other hand, aren't.
 
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Am I not standing on scripture when I said "If God told you to preach then listen to no man?"
Your talking from knowing the full thread. I never I read what he said in his first post and posted what is true.
He never asked for hands to be layed on him. Thats you really adding something that wasnt there.
So no need to try and attempt to correct me on what I was correct on anyway. But I shouldnt be so quick after all your old :)

Rare because of religion
No. You're not standing on scripture. You're standing on your own pride and think it's wisdom. Rather why I believe you're too immature to preach. (Never ask a question unless you want an answer.)
 
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Still, legalistic preaching could have led him to throw in the towel on the Christian faith and instead look elsewhere e.g. rationalism, empirical science etc., for his eternal questions.
Wow. How far did you have to fly through the air to go from step 1 to step 50? Did that have any base whatsoever, or just what you believe about rationalism?
 
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Personally, I've grown more than weary of hearing the word legalism thrown around all over the place and that's not limited to discussions on this forum. A lot of people simply don't want to obey God and then legalism becomes the buzzword. I have a sister who claims to be a Christian and she hates every commandment in the Bible. She once told me that she feels condemned whenever she reads the Bible and, quite frankly, she should because she lives in rebellion against God. I could give you examples of what I mean, but I won't because I'm simply trying to make a point.

Speaking of myself, I typed out a request to have my account here deleted earlier today and then I never sent it. I'll probably be gone shortly nonetheless and one of the reasons, although not the only reason by a longshot, is because I'm sick and tired of hearing so many people here rail against obedience.
You and I rub together like sandpaper and slate, but I would still hate to see you go. You bring something to the table -- unbridled enthusiasm to understand God's word.
 
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You and I rub together like sandpaper and slate, but I would still hate to see you go.
I have no problem with our relationship. We obviously disagree on some things, but I don't detect any guile in you, so I have no complaints.

You bring something to the table -- unbridled enthusiasm to understand God's word.
If I do leave, then this will be the primary reason for my departure. I have too many things vying for my time in this world and that only leaves me limited time for the things of God. I want to make the best use of such time and I doubt that any forum qualifies. In relation to what I don't know about God, I ask a lot of questions, put my own thoughts out there and then I rarely if ever even get a response. In relation to what I believe that I do know about God, it's pretty much the same. I put it out there, I might get a token "like" and then it's seemingly forgotten and no discussion ensues. I'm really not into just hearing myself talk. Bringing this back to the topic of the thread, I've met several pastors who are good speakers and who can put together a sermon, but who also seemingly don't give a damn about the sheep. I just don't ever want to be like that myself. I do care about people and I therefore try to help people, but I doubt that my participation in this forum is helpful to anybody.

For now, I'm just going to lay low for a bit before cancelling my account. I don't want to do anything hasty that I might regret later on.
 
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That's fine. I just thought it right to point out that the young preacher is now a self-professed atheist.
He might be still having notifications by email that someone is contributing to this thread. If so, then a good response may help him if he is having doubts....and all the more reason not to say anything negative that might bomb him further off track.
 
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i will tell you the Truth the Holy Spirit of Truth can teach a person in five minutes what it will take a year in college to grasp and understand. The problem is the people that belong to the Churches, choose a preacher, and they base their choosing, if they had been to college or not.

As i said before, Few are actually called to preach, Many go to college to become preachers because being a preacher appeals to them.

Those who Truly desire to be Preachers of God, will seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost, not the guidance of professors.

Responding to OP
Amen, well said!
 
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I bet Lad is old enough to preach now ;)
 
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I think PC is mature enough to teach in limited capacity. (More teaching in a home meeting than a pastor.) You, on the other hand, aren't.
I was not talking about PC. I was talking about Thread starter. So your confusd.

And I do preach. You just dont like many people in here and get some joy from trashing people. Its clear to see you really dont have a personal relationship with Christ or understand Him at all. If you did you would do what you do. You are so hurt and hurt people hurt people.

 
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I think PC is mature enough to teach in limited capacity. (More teaching in a home meeting than a pastor.) You, on the other hand, aren't.
Again I never mentioned PC what are you talking about. YOU know nothing about me.
 
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1JOHN 2:28-29.
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence,
and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

PS.25:9.
The meek will He guide in judgment: and the meek will He teach his way.

21.
Let integrity and uprightness preserve me, for I wait of Thee.
 
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twotwo

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Hey all,

Im 19 and I know its Gods will for me to be a preacher in the future. When I asked my pastor if I could send him a sermon for him to look over and for me to eventually preach he gave me a look that said "your far too young to preach"

Is it wrong for me to want to do a sermon? Should I wait until ive been trained? What do you guys think?
As Francis of Assisi would say: Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words.
 

DiscipleDave

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DiscipleDave said
When i was 12 years old, i knew i was called to preach. i walked up to the preacher and asked him, what must i do to become a preacher. What he told me, i was not expecting. He said "You must go to college for four years" i immediately said, that is pretty sad if God calls upon a poor person to preach" and walked away.

There are a few who are actually called to be preachers.
There are many who choose to become preachers because it appeals to them.
i was called to be a preacher before i was even born. my Mom was going to be a Nun, then she met my Dad, and fell in Love with him, they married and had me, my Mom felt so guilty about turning away from her calling to be a Nun, that she prayed to God there her firstborn son would be dedicated to the Lord. So when i was in the womb of my Mother, she only read the Bible to me. i can't remember a time in my life that i did not know and believe in Jesus. i believed in Jesus before i even believed in Santa Clause.

my point is. God calls whom He will call. and God will educate a person in what they need to preach. Is it not the Holy Ghost that reveals Truths to a person? No not this generation Truth is revealed to a person through college now, through professors, through books and essays.

Your preacher felt you are far too young to preach, because you have not yet been to college for four years.

i will tell you the Truth the Holy Spirit of Truth can teach a person in five minutes what it will take a year in college to grasp and understand. The problem is the people that belong to the Churches, choose a preacher, and they base their choosing, if they had been to college or not.

As i said before, Few are actually called to preach, Many go to college to become preachers because being a preacher appeals to them.

Those who Truly desire to be Preachers of God, will seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost, not the guidance of professors.

Responding to OP

But a few hours ago you were "preaching" that all the saved wouldn't make it into heaven on Judgement Day. [/quote}

You do error and misquoting another is not of God but is a tool of satan. i did not say that all the Saved wouldn't make it into Heaven on Judgement Day, as you are falsely accusing me now. i said plainly, yet it is apparent you did not understand, that not all who claim to be Saved will be Saved on Judgement Day. Please try to do the Godly thing, and be careful to quote what people actually said instead of quoting what you think they meant. Is not satan the author of confusion. Does it not cause confusion to misquote others?

And now you say you were "born to preach" simply because your mom was going to be a nun and she prayed for you to be a preacher.
Again, you misunderstood what i said, and therefore misquote me. i never said that my mom prayed for me to be a preacher, therefore from whom does this information come from, it is a lie and is not the Truth, who then told you that? If you had the Holy Spirit of God in you, you would not be spreading lies and misquoting people in an attempt to cause confusion and strife.

You're really not. Sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, neither am I.
Who are you to judge if i am or am not a preacher? You know not the Truth, and have no part in it. If you would have known the Truth, you would not be misquoting, causing confusion, and Judging others falsely.

So the only thing you've proved is my point -- people who don't know the subject matter shouldn't be preaching.
And you think i have said differently? People who do not know the Subject matter, should not be preaching that subject matter, have i said differently?

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DiscipleDave said


But a few hours ago you were "preaching" that all the saved wouldn't make it into heaven on Judgement Day. [/quote}

You do error and misquoting another is not of God but is a tool of satan. i did not say that all the Saved wouldn't make it into Heaven on Judgement Day, as you are falsely accusing me now. i said plainly, yet it is apparent you did not understand, that not all who claim to be Saved will be Saved on Judgement Day. Please try to do the Godly thing, and be careful to quote what people actually said instead of quoting what you think they meant. Is not satan the author of confusion. Does it not cause confusion to misquote others?



Again, you misunderstood what i said, and therefore misquote me. i never said that my mom prayed for me to be a preacher, therefore from whom does this information come from, it is a lie and is not the Truth, who then told you that? If you had the Holy Spirit of God in you, you would not be spreading lies and misquoting people in an attempt to cause confusion and strife.



Who are you to judge if i am or am not a preacher? You know not the Truth, and have no part in it. If you would have known the Truth, you would not be misquoting, causing confusion, and Judging others falsely.



And you think i have said differently? People who do not know the Subject matter, should not be preaching that subject matter, have i said differently?

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Responding to post 74
You show up weeks later, wonk out a post, and I'm supposed to go through your pages and pages of "I'll grace you with my might sermons" to find one you would have understood had you actual thought it was important to have a conversation long ago? Nah. I'm not that daffed.
 
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Don't listen to anyone else? Apparently, since starting this thread 4 years ago, he's listened to a lot of the wrong people. Again, according to his latest update, this young man who was called to preach, according to his beliefs back then anyway, is now an atheist.
Maybe he was bombed off track by people being hateful
 
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So if God speaks to someone you recomend they go ask people?
Nothing wrong with what I said.

So how do you know hes an aitheist? Where is this latest update?
Yes, I was wondering that .....:)
 
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Oh! We snooped on different people. Didn't catch that.

You do know I don't consider you too young to preach, right? Had you had the calling, you'd be preaching in your church by now. It requires the education and the degree(s.) (In my denomination, it also requires a few tests and a grueling session in front of the entire local presbytery leaders, mostly to check out if the candidate knows his stuff and really believes it.) And, not being a teacher/preacher myself, I'd be very dumb to look down at other not-teachers/not-preachers. lol

I really was talking about people too young to know how hard it is to become one, and yet think they can do it anyway. (Or some who think they're self-appointed preachers.)
No it doesn't, it requires the equipping of God through the Holy Spirit, and it requires REVELATION which is nothing to do with head knowledge
 
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DiscipleDave said



Again, you misunderstood what i said, and therefore misquote me. i never said that my mom prayed for me to be a preacher, therefore from whom does this information come from, it is a lie and is not the Truth, who then told you that? If you had the Holy Spirit of God in you, you would not be spreading lies and misquoting people in an attempt to cause confusion and strife.

Who are you to judge if i am or am not a preacher? You know not the Truth, and have no part in it. If you would have known the Truth, you would not be misquoting, causing confusion, and Judging others falsely.



Responding to post 74
Yes, I am sorry you had to put up with that. There are some on these discussions who are known to twist your words in order to make you the bad guy and stir up strife.

God sees all however!

I liked what you said very much. I do think that those who have not experienced the revelation God gives through the Holy Spirit are apt to make it all about intellect, the seminary, and maturity in years. This is not how God works, as we know!

1 Cor 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

Those who think they are entitled to teach or preach because of their human endeavours have not reached base one in the Spirit.

Thanks Dave!
 
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atwhatcost

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Yes, I am sorry you had to put up with that. There are some on these discussions who are known to twist your words in order to make you the bad guy and stir up strife.

God sees all however!

I liked what you said very much. I do think that those who have not experienced the revelation God gives through the Holy Spirit are apt to make it all about intellect, the seminary, and maturity in years. This is not how God works, as we know!

1 Cor 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

Those who think they are entitled to teach or preach because of their human endeavours have not reached base one in the Spirit.

Thanks Dave!
When I saw you posted on here, I knew it would come down to a side-swipe at me, because you had no comeback for what I told you on your thread. Still childish, huh? Like I said, I don't usually bother with you because you don't listen. Your prove-a-point is your god. I bet you didn't notice your verse says the opposite of your last swipe, (before pretending this was to thank Dave, of course.)

Feel free to come back and get more out of your system.
 
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When I saw you posted on here, I knew it would come down to a side-swipe at me, because you had no comeback for what I told you on your thread. Still childish, huh? Like I said, I don't usually bother with you because you don't listen. Your prove-a-point is your god. I bet you didn't notice your verse says the opposite of your last swipe, (before pretending this was to thank Dave, of course.)

Feel free to come back and get more out of your system.
The good thing in this post is that finally you recognized YOURSELF as the one who twists things, projects evil upon people in order to appear right yourself, and stirs up strife.

Well done! Good step forward. Keep up the good work. Stop being the elephant in the room, and progress towards repentance.