Turning From Sin = Repentance?

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Exert: Like faith, repentance has intellectual, emotional, and volitional ramifications. Berkhof describes the intellectual element of repentance as "a change of view, a recognition of sin as involving personal guilt, defilement, and helplessness." The emotional element is "a change of feeling, manifesting itself in sorrow for sin committed against a holy God." The volitional element is "a change of purpose, an inward turning away from sin, and a disposition to seek pardon and cleansing." (Berkhof, Systematic Theology, 486) Each of those three elements is deficient apart from the others. Repentance is a response of the total person; therefore some speak of it as total surrender.

From:
http://www.gty.org/resources/Articles/A330/What-Is-Biblical-Repentance

What are your thoughts on repentance and its place in the NT, even so under the new covenant? The link above describes another understanding of repentance as such...


Exert: But the predominate no-lordship view on repentance is simply to redefine repentance as a change of mind—not a turning from sin or a change of purpose. This view states, "In both the Old and New Testaments repentance means 'to change one's mind' " (Ryire, So Great Salvation, 92). "Is repentance a condition for receiving eternal life? Yes, if it is repentance or changing one's mind about Jesus Christ. No if it means to be sorry for sin or even resolve to turn from sin" (SGS 99). Repentance by that definition is simply a synonym for the no-lordship definition of faith. It is simply an intellectual exercise.

Note that the no-lordship definition of repentance explicitly denies the emotional and volitional elements in Berkhof's description of repentance. No-lordship repentance is not "be[ing] sorry for sin or even resolv[ing] to turn from sin." It means simply "changing one's mind about his former conception of God and disbelief in God and Christ" (SGS 98). Again, one could experience that kind of "repentance" without any understanding of the gravity of sin or the severity of God's judgment against sinners. It is a remorseless, hollow, pseudorepentance.

Thoughts?
i will take the bibles account. trying to answer about an other persons thoughts or written work, is pointless.

simply ask, who needed to be reassured about oral repentance v taking an animal to the temple for forgiveness.

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,Romans 3

the jewish grew up with the jewish religion , being taught at an early age, all about god and his ways(to keep it short)etc
if all the jewish have sinned, then reentering law, the law again will condemn them. this is why paul wrote gal5 v1-4

paul again addresses this, here
The Righteous Shall Live by Faith
10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them."11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith."12 But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them."13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us---for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree"---14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.Romans 3

18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.Romans 5

please note
license to sin ,is a phrase use by the jewish converts that pointed to the gentile converts.

14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.1Romans 2


70 ad,also brought the thought ,they could not see into the future.


6 he says:
"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."Isaiah 49

points to note, the world was not fully discovered , (in the bible )

for example
usa discovered, around 1610 ad,

but the, good new, death has been conquered by a saviour. etc
 
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I hear these statements that "surrendering to God" isn't in the Bible, therefore I don't believe in it.
Then the same person calls Jesus his Lord. Does anybody see anything wrong with this?

How many parables did Jesus teach that included masters & bondslaves?

How many times in the epistles does the writers call themselves "bondservants"(greek)?

How many times did Jesus refer to Himself as the same?

WHEN has there been ANY kingdom in the Bible where its citizens didn't consider themselves servants to the crown?

Should not a citizen of Heaven submit to his King?

Should not a bondslave submit fully to his Master?

He who doesn't surrender to Christ doesn't have Him as Lord.

No Lord, no Savior, no salvation. You can't have it both ways.

So many want a fire escape from Hell on their own terms. They won't bow, they won't surrender, they won't yield, they won't submit to their Lord. Oh, but they will brag they have irreversible salvation thru radical grace.
:rolleyes:
 
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The sentence surrendering to God is not very wise.

God is the Lord, he owns and rules everything. We can only rebel if He gives us grace to,
so there never is the idea of surrendering, because it suggests we can have victory over the.
creator which is absurd.

What we are called to do is humble ourselves, repent and bow the knee which is acknowledging
who He is and his rights over us, before He exercises them anyway.

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
James 4:10

that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth
Phil 2:10

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.
1 Tim 1:17
 

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The sentence surrendering to God is not very wise.

God is the Lord, he owns and rules everything. We can only rebel if He gives us grace to,
so there never is the idea of surrendering, because it suggests we can have victory over the.
creator which is absurd.

What we are called to do is humble ourselves, repent and bow the knee which is acknowledging
who He is and his rights over us, before He exercises them anyway.

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
James 4:10

that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth
Phil 2:10

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.
1 Tim 1:17
But that is exactly what it is. It is surrendering your will and your way and receiving His Will and His Way instead.

Surrendering is giving up right?

Matthew 11:28 [FONT=&quot]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

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I suppose you have to do it first before you can see it. But its right there, if that helps. I hope so.
 
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The sentence surrendering to God is not very wise.

God is the Lord, he owns and rules everything. We can only rebel if He gives us grace to,
so there never is the idea of surrendering, because it suggests we can have victory over the.
creator which is absurd.

What we are called to do is humble ourselves, repent and bow the knee which is acknowledging
who He is and his rights over us, before He exercises them anyway.

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
James 4:10

that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth
Phil 2:10

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.
1 Tim 1:17
Actually, surrendering is the only way. We have the OT as the example. When a kingdom was overtaken by another, that kingdom had no choice to surrender or be destroyed. When they surrendered, they were either taken captive or left to pay tribute.

When we were sinners, we were already captives of Satan to do his bidding. But when Jesus saves us, He conquered Satan's domain, taking Satan's captives as His own. Now we are God's servants. Jesus taught us if we want to be great, we must become servant of ALL. That includes God. If we don't surrender to be God's servant, we WON'T be a servant of men.

Yes, God owns everyone, but each person has the choice to serve or rebel.

The word 'minister' is diakonos, which means servant. Therefore, the declarer of the Gospel must do so as a servant, not an independent, rogue dictator with his own ruleset.

Unless the christian is surrendered & submitted to God, the Holy Spirit won't empower nor use him.
 
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This is an interesting post, for I have done some studying on this issue. And I am convinced that true Biblical Repentance does and will involve a turning from sin. It does involved a conviction of sin, brought about by the mighty Holy Ghost. It involves being broken and contrite over one's own sin and rebellion against an holy God. There are a number of 'teachers' today that are redefining repentance to only mean 'a turning from unbelief to belief.' But we do not see this new teaching in the Scriptures.

For consider these verses on Ezekiel:

Ezekiel 14:6 King James Version (KJV)[SUP]6 [/SUP]Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.


Ezekiel 18:30 King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]30 [/SUP]Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord God. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.


Ezekiel 18:32 King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP]For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

And so notice with these three Scriptures alone, we already see that Repentance does indeed involve a turning. And it is not simply unbelief. It involves a turning form iniquity, a turning from transgressions, a turning from idols and idolatry. Which to sum up, can also be concluded as a turning from sin.


Let's also consider an example from the new testament:

Acts 17:16-30
King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.
[SUP]21 [/SUP](For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
[SUP]27 [/SUP]That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:


Given this passage, Repentance defined here would not simply be of unbelief, but it would also be a turning from idolatry which in effect, would ultimately be, once again, a turning from sin. Because concerning the Context of the Acts 17 passage, Paul's spirit was stirred in him when he saw the city wholly given over to the sin of idolatry.
 

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For those interested in a really good article, check out this work on Biblical Repentance by David Cloud:

Biblical Repentance


Also, here is an excerpt from the article itself:


"REPENTANCE IS NOT MERELY CHANGING FROM UNBELIEF TO BELIEF

The late Pastor Jack Hyles, First Baptist Church, Hammond, Indiana, who was an influential independent Baptist preacher, defines repentance to mean turning from unbelief to belief. He stated this in his 1993 book, The Enemies of Soul Winning. One chapter is titled “Misunderstood Repentance: An Enemy of Soul Winning.” He builds his doctrine of repentance largely on human reasoning: since unbelief is the only sin that sends men to Hell (so he claimed), unbelief is the only sin that must be repented of. That sounds reasonable, but it is contrary to the clear example and teaching of the Word of God. Biblical repentance as preached by John the Baptist, the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Apostles, involved a change of mind TOWARD GOD AND SIN. Note the following summary of Paul’s gospel message: “But showed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and DO WORKS MEET FOR REPENTANCE” (Acts 26:20). The gospel message preached by Peter on the day of Pentecost and by Paul after Pentecost required repentance and defined that as a turning to God from evil works. Biblical repentance is a change of mind toward God and sin that results in a change of life. To say that it has nothing to do with one’s attitude toward sin is to throw away 19 centuries of Christian preaching." - David Cloud
 
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I'll state my post again so that we can see "in context" what is really being said as I know there are some people that love to twist what is said to mean something else entirely but we can't help it if some do that.

It's the teaching of "constantly surrendering" that to me can be mis-leading because the absolute truth is that we are one with Christ - the same as Jesus was one with the Father.

There are times of "consecration" as Jesus did that one night in the garden for the Father's will to be done and not His.

Those times - I understand completely but it's this constant appeal to always be surrendering when in fact we need to have the mindset that
"we are surrendered" to the Lord and we are in fact one spirit with Him forever.

That was my point in this surrendering thing and having our minds renewed to the truths of the gospel. But if some can't see what I am really saying here - that's ok...All is well. Jesus is still Lord....:)

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Personally I don't believe in the teaching as a whole about "surrendering" to God. I understand the concept behind the saying and the rational for saying it.

I think it is a by-product of not really hearing the true gospel of the grace of Christ.

The truth is that we have died and our life is hidden with Christ in God. Th
e gospel is about an exchanged life - not a re-forming of morality principles or in striving to do things for God. We died with Jesus on the cross and we rose with Him too.

Does our behavior change now that we are in Christ and we are a new creation in Christ? Yes - it does but it stems and originates from the life of Christ which is already in us in Christ. We can't dictate or produce this change on our own.

We Christians see the words of the apostles in their writings about what the Christian life should look like and then try to "mandate or dictate" this way of life onto people without really preaching the gospel to them.

Paul always at the start of his letters told the people who they were in Christ - sanctified, loved, complete in Christ, they were the righteousness of God in Christ...etc. Then he explained to them what this Christian life looks like when it is being manifested "after" telling them about this exchanged life in Christ.

I firmly believe that if we preached the true gospel of the grace of Christ - people will walk in who they are in Christ - being completely dependent on the life of Christ in them for living. This "surrendering" thing will be automatic and un-conscious as we walk out who we already are in Him.

I hope I am articulating what I am seeing in my spirit. I am NOT saying that people do not follow the Lord with all their lives - I'm saying the complete opposite. He is our life - there is no other life for the Christian.


We have died and our true life is hidden with Christ in God. Col. 3:3

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I'll state my post again so that we can see "in context" what is really being said as I know there are some people that love to twist what is said to mean something else entirely but we can't help it if some do that.

It's the teaching of "constantly surrendering" that to me can be mis-leading because the absolute truth is that we are one with Christ - the same as Jesus was one with the Father.

There are times of "consecration" as Jesus did that one night in the garden for the Father's will to be done and not His.

Those times - I understand completely but it's this constant appeal to always be surrendering when in fact we need to have the mindset that
"we are surrendered" to the Lord and we are in fact one spirit with Him forever.

That was my point in this surrendering thing and having our minds renewed to the truths of the gospel. But if some can't see what I am really saying here - that's ok...All is well. Jesus is still Lord....:)

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Personally I don't believe in the teaching as a whole about "surrendering" to God. I understand the concept behind the saying and the rational for saying it.

I think it is a by-product of not really hearing the true gospel of the grace of Christ.

The truth is that we have died and our life is hidden with Christ in God. Th
e gospel is about an exchanged life - not a re-forming of morality principles or in striving to do things for God. We died with Jesus on the cross and we rose with Him too.

Does our behavior change now that we are in Christ and we are a new creation in Christ? Yes - it does but it stems and originates from the life of Christ which is already in us in Christ. We can't dictate or produce this change on our own.

We Christians see the words of the apostles in their writings about what the Christian life should look like and then try to "mandate or dictate" this way of life onto people without really preaching the gospel to them.

Paul always at the start of his letters told the people who they were in Christ - sanctified, loved, complete in Christ, they were the righteousness of God in Christ...etc. Then he explained to them what this Christian life looks like when it is being manifested "after" telling them about this exchanged life in Christ.

I firmly believe that if we preached the true gospel of the grace of Christ - people will walk in who they are in Christ - being completely dependent on the life of Christ in them for living. This "surrendering" thing will be automatic and un-conscious as we walk out who we already are in Him.

I hope I am articulating what I am seeing in my spirit. I am NOT saying that people do not follow the Lord with all their lives - I'm saying the complete opposite. He is our life - there is no other life for the Christian.


We have died and our true life is hidden with Christ in God. Col. 3:3

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It might be wiser for me not to post more in this thread, but it saddens me to see how many of these threads end in division.
I agree with you that surrender doesn't have to be this big ordeal. It could be automatic and unconscious. I view surrender to Christ in very simple terms. We see our sinfulness the way God views it, we are tired of trying to live our lives through our own strength, and we joyfully give everything of ourselves to Christ. I view this as a privilege not a defeat. It's overwhelming to think that Christ desires to fill us and give us a new life. Why would I want to maintain control in any area when I've failed so miserably?
 
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It might be wiser for me not to post more in this thread, but it saddens me to see how many of these threads end in division.
I agree with you that surrender doesn't have to be this big ordeal. It could be automatic and unconscious. I view surrender to Christ in very simple terms. We see our sinfulness the way God views it, we are tired of trying to live our lives through our own strength, and we joyfully give everything of ourselves to Christ. I view this as a privilege not a defeat. It's overwhelming to think that Christ desires to fill us and give us a new life. Why would I want to maintain control in any area when I've failed so miserably?

I agree. The more we see our complete union with Christ as one spirit joined forever - the more our mind becomes renewed to this truth. We will see that we have in fact died and our only life is hidden with Christ in God.

When we die and leave this earth suit and are with the Lord in heaven - there will be none of this "constant surrendering appeals" from others. It'll be a natural response of the life that is truly in us now. I do believe in times of "consecration" as our minds become renewed to the truths of our life in Christ now.


Maybe some of this aspect was what Paul had in mind when he wrote this?

Colossians 3:1-4 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.

[SUP]2 [/SUP] Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth.

[SUP]3 [/SUP] For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

[SUP]4 [/SUP] When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.

The more we get of the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ and that He is our true life - the more His life is revealed in us.

This goes along with "Keeping your eyes on Jesus - the Author and Finisher of faith" and how we grow from glory to glory by the Holy Spirit as we behold as in a mirror the glory of the Lord. 2 Cor. 3:17-18

I find sometimes trying to articulate things we see in our spirit can be somewhat difficult to express and there is the very real possibility of being mis-understood and then mis-represented too.

This is where this type of discussion back and forth in an environment where others don't insult others is helpful to try to iron things out with the way we communicate/articulate some truths.

I am always impressed with your Christ-like attitude when discussing things with you. I see the Lord in you. ...:)
 
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This is probably beating a dead horse, debating this concept with you. I worked in a mental hospital for children. I could tell you some horror stories of the things that I witnessed. These children and adolescents were mentally ill- not as a result of their sins, not as a result of demon possession or oppression. They were sick because we live in a fallen world, and in this fallen world, people are sick. Sometimes, their illnesses were in part caused by their horrible environments and the sins of their parents- but NOT by their own sins.

Christians can not be demon possessed. We are indwelled by the Holy Spirit, and demons can not enter. This line of argument is getting off track from the original post. I just could not let the statement that mental illness is a result of sin or demonic possession or oppression slip by without commenting.
Your perspective is only allowing you to look at the physical and not the spiritual. The "spirit of infirmity" is real! The Bible is clear that spiritual warfare exists. Ephesians 6:12 says, “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” Paul admonishes in Ephesians 4:27 not to give place to the devil.

Many human ailments are simply caused by living in a fallen world, and there are many instances in Luke’s gospel of people being healed of diseases with no mention of a demonic cause. The WOF doctrine says Health is a blessing…sickness and disease is a curse. In Luke 13 Jesus specifically speaks of Satan having bound this woman who is saved (verse 16). But, in many other cases of healing, He simply heals with no mention of evil spirits involved.

In Christianity you are either on the side of the Cross or you are on the side of Cain. You are on Jesus side or Cain side. Jesus side is the Lamb of God slain on Calvary's Cross two thousand years ago that shed His Blood; to not only atone for my sin, but to allow me to walk and live a victorious sanctified life.

The religion of Cain says, "I am to good to put my faith in a bloody sacrifice. I can make myself better and I can offer up the work of my hands (self will). They believe no repentance is required.

God insists that man accepts everything done for him on the premise of faith; Faith in the victory won on Calvary's Cross.
 
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I agree. The more we see our complete union with Christ as one spirit joined forever - the more our mind becomes renewed to this truth. We will see that we have in fact died and our only life is hidden with Christ in God.
love that thanks for explaining how the mind gets more renewed
 
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I see surrender to God as a simple means of obeying the commands which God says will fulfill the law and prophets, yet not so simple.

It is stepping out in FAITH and saying OK God, You said I need to love these people. Whether I think they deserve it or not. And allow YOU to take care of my needs.

That is what Jesus did in his ministry, Every time it came up to serving someone, He gave up his own needs for the needs of others. Even when the disciples told him he needed to eat or rest. He said no I have work to do, people to serve.

This is not somethign that happens over night, It takes great faith, and takes patience and perseverance. but the end result is you will be blessed..
 
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  1. All to Jesus I surrender,
    All to Him I freely give;
    I will ever love and trust Him,
    In His presence daily live.
    • Refrain:
      I surrender all,
      I surrender all;
      All to Thee, my blessed Savior,
      I surrender all.
  2. All to Jesus I surrender,
    Humbly at His feet I bow;
    Worldly pleasures all forsaken,
    Take me, Jesus, take me now.
  3. All to Jesus I surrender,
    Make me, Savior, wholly Thine;
    Let me feel the Holy Spirit,
    Truly know that Thou art mine.
  4. All to Jesus I surrender,
    Lord, I give myself to Thee;
    Fill me with Thy love and power,
    Let Thy blessing fall on me.
  5. All to Jesus I surrender,
    Now I feel the sacred flame;
    Oh, the joy of full salvation!
    Glory, glory, to His Name!
 
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I'll state my post again so that we can see "in context" what is really being said as I know there are some people that love to twist what is said to mean something else entirely but we can't help it if some do that.

It's the teaching of "constantly surrendering" that to me can be mis-leading because the absolute truth is that we are one with Christ - the same as Jesus was one with the Father.

There are times of "consecration" as Jesus did that one night in the garden for the Father's will to be done and not His.

Those times - I understand completely but it's this constant appeal to always be surrendering when in fact we need to have the mindset that
"we are surrendered" to the Lord and we are in fact one spirit with Him forever.

The thing about being one in Christ is that His bride can & does play the harlot, rebelling from their previously dedicated life to Him.

All thru the OT we see the prophets declaring Israel was a harlot, signifying they ran after other lovers(gods).

If the church stayed in a right relationship with God, there would be no need for revivals & restorations. Just like Israel, the church hasn't always been faithful.

Solomon said, "there's nothing new under the sun".
 

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For those interested in a really good article, check out this work on Biblical Repentance by David Cloud:

Biblical Repentance


Also, here is an excerpt from the article itself:


"REPENTANCE IS NOT MERELY CHANGING FROM UNBELIEF TO BELIEF

The late Pastor Jack Hyles, First Baptist Church, Hammond, Indiana, who was an influential independent Baptist preacher, defines repentance to mean turning from unbelief to belief. He stated this in his 1993 book, The Enemies of Soul Winning. One chapter is titled “Misunderstood Repentance: An Enemy of Soul Winning.” He builds his doctrine of repentance largely on human reasoning: since unbelief is the only sin that sends men to Hell (so he claimed), unbelief is the only sin that must be repented of. That sounds reasonable, but it is contrary to the clear example and teaching of the Word of God. Biblical repentance as preached by John the Baptist, the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Apostles, involved a change of mind TOWARD GOD AND SIN. Note the following summary of Paul’s gospel message: “But showed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and DO WORKS MEET FOR REPENTANCE” (Acts 26:20). The gospel message preached by Peter on the day of Pentecost and by Paul after Pentecost required repentance and defined that as a turning to God from evil works. Biblical repentance is a change of mind toward God and sin that results in a change of life. To say that it has nothing to do with one’s attitude toward sin is to throw away 19 centuries of Christian preaching." - David Cloud
I met Jack Hyles and I heard him preach. He was a fervent evangelist and soul winner. He was old school and the flavor of his ministry is greatly missed in the church today.

The first sin that must be repented of is the sin of unbelief. Really when you think about it all sin is based on unbelief. Instead of going all legalist why don't we simply believe what God says and live accordingly? There is no righteousness apart from grace. Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.

Jack Hyles never taught that one did not need to live for Christ.

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Biblical repentance is a change of mind toward God and sin that results in a change of life.
I agree. Now what is that change of mind towards God and sin that results in that change of life?
 
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I agree. Now what is that change of mind towards God and sin that results in that change of life?
Who convicts of sin?

Who leads us to repentance?

But WHO make the decision? We possess the faith God gave us, we are shown by the Holy Spirit what we should do, We are giver the ability by the Holy Spirit to do it, but we are the ones that chooses & does the repenting. We make the commitment. That's a work with God's power & ability, but it's still a necessary work if we want forgiveness.