What do we believe?

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Kerry

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Look my friend, i know that if I hit the switch the light comes on. If you want to talk atomically and cohesion of molecules and how they react at sub temperatures. Then applied to the rapid action that they are given to at higher temps, or how photons penetrate the darkest substrates. Clue, you have found the wrong thread. Flicker, flicker. Accept Jesus Christ or die trying flicker , flicker
 
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Look my friend, i know that if I hit the switch the light comes on. If you want to talk atomically and cohesion of molecules and how they react at sub temperatures. Then applied to the rapid action that they are given to at higher temps, or how photons penetrate the darkest substrates. Clue, you have found the wrong thread. Flicker, flicker. Accept Jesus Christ or die trying flicker , flicker
Why do light flicker at night when looking at the city lights? - Yahoo! Answers

Lecture 16: Pulsating Stars

* Pulsate - (Astronomy): Definition

Hosea 4:6My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.


1 Corinthians 1:22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom,

John 3:12
I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?


Does it makes you wonder why God had put the Jews under the control of Rome. You have to know how earthly things work so that you can understand the heavenly things.

Matthew 8
8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”
10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith.
 
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Bryancampbell

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dinosaurs were land animals so God made them on the sixth day of creation week...

also many scholars believe that the 'behemoth' mentioned in job was some kind of dinosaur...possibly an apatosaurus type dinosaur...
Some say the Brontosaurus​ never really existed. It was skeleton manipulation or something, and believed for many years. I might be wrong.
 

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I personally don't hold to a literal six day creation. The Hebrew word for day doesn't have to mean a literal 24 hour day. I haven't made my mind up on the specifics yet, but I tend to think it's a balance of natural selection and progressive creations. God introduced organisms at key moments, but over a long time period. I think natural selection, whatever you think in terms of evolution, certainly accounts for fluctuating populations of species since we've been able to measure it. As I said, though, still playing with a few different ideas.

But really, the early chapters of Genesis aren't about providing a comprehensive textbook on creation. They are about showing the supremacy of God, the greatness of his creative majesty, and his plan to make mankind in his image, before we turned away from him. They also refute address creation accounts from other earlier civilisations, so they're partially apologetic in structure and nature. They're almost beautifully poetic in their construction, so appreciate their description of God.

Thinking about creation is really important, but for me, the real battleground for faith is not in creation, but in Christ. Scientists and theologians both cannot make up their minds about what happened at creation, so long ago. We will probably never have a full understanding of exactly how the world and everything came into being, down to fine details. Only God knows. However, the claims of Christ are much easier to analyse, given they're only 2000 years old. Did Christ say what the Bible records him saying? Did he do those things? Did he die and rise again? If yes, then everything else becomes secondary. Jesus claimed he was God. He reportedly died and rose again. If he was right, he can answer all your questions. Planksh, I recommended you start there. What do you make of Jesus?
 

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I personally don't hold to a literal six day creation. The Hebrew word for day doesn't have to mean a literal 24 hour day. I haven't made my mind up on the specifics yet, but I tend to think it's a balance of natural selection and progressive creations. God introduced organisms at key moments, but over a long time period. I think natural selection, whatever you think in terms of evolution, certainly accounts for fluctuating populations of species since we've been able to measure it. As I said, though, still playing with a few different ideas.

Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
There's no 'thousand' before evening and morning. It was in actual days.
 

Nick01

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Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
There's no 'thousand' before evening and morning. It was in actual days.
I think you missed the point(s) of my post.
 
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leonardronaldo

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Really were you there and witnessed these events. Who is to say that were not beings that walked as a man. They certainly built cities ( jeremiah). I was not there and can only go by the word of God. Why would God create a planet that was void and full of darkness. If look more closely the sun was allowed not made but allowed to shine on the earth. Why because it was already made in time past.
lol because i am not there, that's why we are counting on historical inventions. not assumption.
i can't get your way of thinking
 
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If there weren't a six days creation then all the acts of miracles in the scriptures are false.

Matthew 21:19
Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered. ( Jesus didn't pour any root killer at the base of the tree, and if He had did, it still will take some month for it to wither away.)

Matthew 8:3
Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!” Immediately he was cleansed of his leprosy. ( This miracle happened within seconds and their isn't any known cure in those times for this disease that I know of.)

People claims to be with God, but they aren't because they believe what man tell them over what God has said. Basically they might as well file the scriptures under Greek's Myths and Legends.

John 20:27

Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”

Revelation 2:4
Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first.
 
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I am confused because the time of creation seems much later than the time that dinosaurs lived, according to scientists.
If you ask me,, dinasaurs had to exist at the sametime that Adam & Eve did. Here's why:

We know that some dinasaurs were meat-eaters. Such as T-rex and the Allsarus. So, if they were killing and eating flesh,, this must have occured AFTER Adam and Eve sinned.

I can't see the animals killing and eating each other in a sin-free planet. And if Dinos were killing and eating,, one would have to believe that other animals were doing the same.
 
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xXTamXx

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To be honest it is something I have wondered,too. My theory is that they were created way back in creation but something happened for them to die out (after the flood, maybe?). Remember people in those days we're giants so it's possible. but in the end we don't need to know because it's not a salvation issue. Whether or not we do know for sure, isn't important in the fight against temptation. It's one of those I'm looking forward to asking Jesus myself :D
 
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Some say the Brontosaurus​ never really existed. It was skeleton manipulation or something, and believed for many years. I might be wrong.
Yeah I heard that too. Apparently it was a combination of at least two sets of bones or something.
 

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[h=3]Deuteronomy 29:29[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]29 [/SUP]The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

God doesn't tell us everything but what He has told us is in the instruction manual called Torah is sufficient.

 
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Nancyer

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My pastor always said the Bible, specifically the book of Genesis is not about How but about Why. The How is unimportant, it is the WHY we are to discern.

God made Adam as a full grown man. Not a baby. He made Eve a full grown woman. Again, not a baby. So do we think He would have made baby animals? Probably not, they would have needed parent animals to raise them. So, it stands to reason that if God started these living beings out as 'adults', then why not the mountains, land, etc., so it could support Adam and Eve and the animals and plants in the garden so they could eat.

This is why I don't care that scientists say dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. God could have made the land "full grown" the day He made it. So if a scientist could have carbon dated it THAT DAY it was have been millions of years old already.

This also answers the chicken and egg question. God created a chicken because an egg would have required a chicken to sit on it and hatch it.
 

ForthAngel

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My pastor always said the Bible, specifically the book of Genesis is not about How but about Why. The How is unimportant, it is the WHY we are to discern.

God made Adam as a full grown man. Not a baby. He made Eve a full grown woman. Again, not a baby. So do we think He would have made baby animals? Probably not, they would have needed parent animals to raise them. So, it stands to reason that if God started these living beings out as 'adults', then why not the mountains, land, etc., so it could support Adam and Eve and the animals and plants in the garden so they could eat.

This is why I don't care that scientists say dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. God could have made the land "full grown" the day He made it. So if a scientist could have carbon dated it THAT DAY it was have been millions of years old already.

This also answers the chicken and egg question. God created a chicken because an egg would have required a chicken to sit on it and hatch it.
The bible also says in many places that God stretched out the heavens which would explain how they judge the age of the universe by the different galaxies that are moving apart from each other. I agree with you that he could have created everything with an "ancient" appearance or already in its adulthood, including the universe itself.


 
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ed2

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But I can't do what God from the Bible wants if I don't believe he exists. What made you believe in the Bible?
God caused me to believe. He intervened on my behalf because I couldn't believe on my own. Trust me, I didn't want to believe in God or His Bible. First thing God had to show me was that I was an evil, wicked person that hated Him and that I was doomed to face His wrath (hell). This showed me that I needed someone to save me from God's wrath. This is where Jesus comes in. He appeased the wrath of God on my behalf in His death, burial, and resurrection. He stood in my place and took the punishment I deserved. He paid my penalty. Once God opened my eyes to this truth, He granted me repentance and faith. God gave me the ability to have faith in Christ. Along with that came the ability to believe the Bible. He totally regenerated me (made me new). It required a supernatural act of God because I couldn't do it, nor did I want to. Nobody wants to come to God or have saving faith in Him, apart from God drawing them.

If you see how wicked and evil you really are (according to God's standards and not yours), see that you need a Savior, and see that Jesus is that Savior, God can give you the ability to believe like He did for me and others. My prayer is that God will open your eyes like He did mine.
 
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wordhelpsme

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There is no doubt of the existence ofdinosaurs. Fossils are found on everycontinent. When God created them and howlong they existed is unknown to man, they times are conjectural.

When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, Godended their life. The Bible does nottell us how, when or why.

We can be sure that they were created by God for apurpose, even if we do not fully understand that purpose at this time.
 
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One3Seven

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There are just so many stories that seem made up. Noah's Arc, parting the red sea, walking on water. How can I believe all these things happened?
If its hard to believe in Noah's Arc, then do you actually believe that there was a catastrophic flood?
 
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Sanashankar

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creation happened millions of years ago...the six days mentioned in genesis, is six stages of creation, not literal six days. dinosaurs are mentioned in the chapter job,some other member has given the verse already. if u want more clarification on the matter of creation read this
Nashville Conference 2008 - audio #1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6

Hope u find the answer you are looking for