What Do You Think Comes Next - In Biblical Prophecy?
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In current world events, that is a good assumption it could be the Islamic State but in what role? You have to remember the Islamic State want Damascus in their Caliphate. DO you also know how big Damascus really is? Population of 2 million covering 40 square miles.
It is a good assumption that the descriptions of desolation of Damascus can only come about from being flooded with radiation, can not see it being biological.
ANother question if it is the Islamic State then what would be the circumstances? would it be in future where they ruled Syria or in a last ditch destructive act as their final swan song after they have just all but been annihilated?
Could it be after capturing Damascas with the mass evacuation taken place, Assad nukes the place himself?
It is a good assumption that the descriptions of desolation of Damascus can only come about from being flooded with radiation, can not see it being biological.
ANother question if it is the Islamic State then what would be the circumstances? would it be in future where they ruled Syria or in a last ditch destructive act as their final swan song after they have just all but been annihilated?
Could it be after capturing Damascas with the mass evacuation taken place, Assad nukes the place himself?
I didn't get from the text that no human would ever settle/reside either in or near Damascus ever again. Considering Isaiah 17 as a whole, reading the surrounding chapters, and considering the historical context in which it was written, it seems that it's talking about the events of Judah and Israel's "Assyrian Crisis."
The basic story is found in 2 Kings and the first chunk of Isaiah. Ahaz is faced with a problem of Israel and Syria becoming allies to fight against him/Judah. In response, Ahaz appeals to the then superpower of Assyria (and it's king Tiglath Pileser III) for help. This appeal occured even though Ahaz receives a word through Isaiah to "remain calm" and "trust the Lord" and everything would be Ok (see Isaiah 7-9). Instead, Ahaz asks Assyria for help, and to obtain their assistance he looted the Temple and sent the treasury to Tiglath Pileser. Assyria reponds positively and sacks Syria and Israel resulting in the exile and conquest of both nations.
Isaiah tells Ahaz in reponse to his distrust in Yahweh, and trusting Assyria instead, that Assyria would eventually turn to sacking Jerusalem as well, but would be unable to conquer it. Indeed Assyria did beseige Jerusalem, but was unable to conquer it, though it did pretty much ravage most of Judah in the process of moving toward Jerusalem.
Many of the judgment oracles in Isaiah, though maybe not all, seem to be directed at the specific nations that either allied with Syria and Israel in their attack on Judah, or those nations that later allied with Assyria in it's attack on Judah.
The basic story is found in 2 Kings and the first chunk of Isaiah. Ahaz is faced with a problem of Israel and Syria becoming allies to fight against him/Judah. In response, Ahaz appeals to the then superpower of Assyria (and it's king Tiglath Pileser III) for help. This appeal occured even though Ahaz receives a word through Isaiah to "remain calm" and "trust the Lord" and everything would be Ok (see Isaiah 7-9). Instead, Ahaz asks Assyria for help, and to obtain their assistance he looted the Temple and sent the treasury to Tiglath Pileser. Assyria reponds positively and sacks Syria and Israel resulting in the exile and conquest of both nations.
Isaiah tells Ahaz in reponse to his distrust in Yahweh, and trusting Assyria instead, that Assyria would eventually turn to sacking Jerusalem as well, but would be unable to conquer it. Indeed Assyria did beseige Jerusalem, but was unable to conquer it, though it did pretty much ravage most of Judah in the process of moving toward Jerusalem.
Many of the judgment oracles in Isaiah, though maybe not all, seem to be directed at the specific nations that either allied with Syria and Israel in their attack on Judah, or those nations that later allied with Assyria in it's attack on Judah.
What is the Value seeing that we are entering the End Times, even though we do not know for sure how many years they will last? Hopefully it will give us a sense of urgency to witness to those that GOD has brought into our path, so that we can FINISH the task at hand:
Matthew 28:19-20 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.
So, do you think we will see the Third Temple being built, before GOD calls us out of the earth to go to the Wedding of the Lamb?
[video=youtube;F6prYdPPPaQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6prYdPPPaQ[/video]
Matthew 28:19-20 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.
So, do you think we will see the Third Temple being built, before GOD calls us out of the earth to go to the Wedding of the Lamb?
[video=youtube;F6prYdPPPaQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6prYdPPPaQ[/video]
We may be in Revelation 13:1-3 right now. Isis could be the Beast from the Sea.
2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.
The mouth was the Lion - Iraq - which was mortally wounded. Isis will continue to take over all of Iraq thus "healing" it.
3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed.
Isis beheads Christians - anyone who will not convert to Islam. This is exactly the way the saints are killed in the end times.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God...
Isis acknowledges Allah as their god and Mohammed as their prophet. This is the spirit of AntiChrist. Is there anything more offensive to God than this?
6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven...
Isis does not have the leader yet spoken of in Rev 13 and Dan 11.
Therefore I believe the next thing on the Biblical calender is for the Beast to receive its "mouth" and continue for 42 months. The war he wages against the saints has only started. It will worsen and become global. Christians will be slaughtered all over the globe.
7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
How do we know Christians will be slaughtered globally in huge numbers? From Rev 7:
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Yes, I believe we have either just entered the Tribulation or are on the verge of entering it any day.
2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.
The mouth was the Lion - Iraq - which was mortally wounded. Isis will continue to take over all of Iraq thus "healing" it.
3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed.
Isis beheads Christians - anyone who will not convert to Islam. This is exactly the way the saints are killed in the end times.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God...
Isis acknowledges Allah as their god and Mohammed as their prophet. This is the spirit of AntiChrist. Is there anything more offensive to God than this?
6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven...
Isis does not have the leader yet spoken of in Rev 13 and Dan 11.
Therefore I believe the next thing on the Biblical calender is for the Beast to receive its "mouth" and continue for 42 months. The war he wages against the saints has only started. It will worsen and become global. Christians will be slaughtered all over the globe.
7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
How do we know Christians will be slaughtered globally in huge numbers? From Rev 7:
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Yes, I believe we have either just entered the Tribulation or are on the verge of entering it any day.
You can clean yourself in Javex if u want. It won't make a difference. The filthiest bum at the dump might go before you. It is your heart that counts. Are you practicing any of the sins listed in Galatians or Ephesians? Don't be ignorant brethren. Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Well Jimmy, from what I read Damascus will be uninhabited, a pile of rubble with no one living in it to chase the animals away, apartently the sacking of Damascus by the Assyrians did not leave it totally unpopulated or in ruins. Further the events after do not quite match up in my mind, the enemies will be scattered and destroyed, this does not fit a siege.
I can however see how this is thought to have been fulfilled, but I do not think it has. I also like to change my mind a bit regarding the Original post, I think if this whole Damascus thing is to take place in future, then it has to be right on top of the Tribulation, or during it due to the destruction of the Northern cities of Israel.
Magog Gog war next up maybe, but who knows.
We will only know when it happens, speculation is waste of time to be honest, things change so much in a few years, we could be 100 years away from next events for Christs return.
I can however see how this is thought to have been fulfilled, but I do not think it has. I also like to change my mind a bit regarding the Original post, I think if this whole Damascus thing is to take place in future, then it has to be right on top of the Tribulation, or during it due to the destruction of the Northern cities of Israel.
Magog Gog war next up maybe, but who knows.
We will only know when it happens, speculation is waste of time to be honest, things change so much in a few years, we could be 100 years away from next events for Christs return.
Revelation 7:9-17 (KJV) [SUP]9 [/SUP]After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; [SUP]10 [/SUP]And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, [SUP]12 [/SUP]Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? [SUP]14 [/SUP]And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. [SUP]16 [/SUP]They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
Not one poster has commented on that I think what has come next are events pointing us to uniting the church under Christ. We have taught division: Jew/gentile, OT/NT, Old covenant/new covenant, cancel ten commandments/keep them, God speaks to only Israel/God speak to all in scripture---all sort of ways to divide so we aren't strong. No one is commenting on this!
I listed the events that I think point to this. You aren't even objecting to this idea while many comment on how to just watch what God is doing in current events that are mostly up to God, only asking us to prepare for Christ's return.
I listed the events that I think point to this. You aren't even objecting to this idea while many comment on how to just watch what God is doing in current events that are mostly up to God, only asking us to prepare for Christ's return.
There are many different interpretations of this scripture. But there are clues within the scriptures to identify who it is speaking of. This is not Isis. First the dragon is the whore of Rev 18 who has blasphemous name. is is the Vatican with its 6 other religions as the new one world religion. Look at the beast in chapter 13 compared to the dragon in chapter 12. Notice that the crowns are on the 7 heads in 12 while on the 10 horns in 13. This tells you which part of the beast he is addressing. In chapter 17 we see the whore Babylon the great and the description there could only belong to the new one world religion with the Vatican as its leader. So the one world religion is the dragon. The beast cannot be ISIS because they do not have a working relationship with the dragon. Some teach that the 10 unions around the globe are the beast but this to fails because the dragon does not control all 10 Unions in this new world order, at least not yet.
However, there are 10 full members in the EU which is trying very hard to form a new world order. It is one of the heads that seems to be killed and brought back, not one of the horns. Therefore it is a religious leader that he is referring to. If we look at Daniel's description of the beast with 10 horns we see that there is another little horn that joins the first 10 horns. If the beast is the EU then this 11th horn could be Turkey. They are trying very hard to become a full member of the EU.
There is a second beast in Rev 13 that has 2 horns. Daniel tells us that horns are kings or nations so we know that these 2 horns are 2 nations that will support the EU with powerful armies. Many teach that these 2 horns are the false prophet and the anti-Christ but then they would not be 2 kings or nations. God is not the god of confusion so the 2 horns have to be 2 nations. They cause all to take the mark. The US has developed the micro chip that can be implanted and already claims it wants to place one in every human. This should be watched. If the US is one of the horns then Canada is likely the second nation in that pair.
The fact that ISIS beheads Christians has nothing to do with the wounded head of the beast. This interpretation ignores to many scriptures.
Rev 13's beast and Daniel 11's king of the north have nothing to do with each other. The king of the north simple is against Egypt, not Israel. He attempts to attack the king of the south which scripture tells you is Egypt. Because of the covenant there are ships in the Mediterranean that stop him. He has knowledge of Israel transgressing the covenant and because the covenant was the reason for the ships being there he squeals on the transgressors. He does not set up the abomination that Jesus said to watch for. Arms rise up on his part and do this. According to Daniel 9:27 the prince of the covenant does not set up the abomination either, he just cause it to be done or orders it. It is the little horn of Daniel 8 that actually sets up the abomination. Again this could be Turkey.
If we read Daniel 9 we find that a 7 year covenant must be signed and it is only in the midst of this 7 years that the abomination Jesus said to watch for is set up.
Daniel 9 tells us that it is a prince of the people who destroyed the temple and sanctuary that will make the covenant. The people who destroyed the temple and the sanctuary were the Roman soldiers in 70 AD. So the prince must come out of Rome somehow. But the only entity in Rome today of importance is the Vatican. However, the one world religion that is now rising is controlled by the Vatican and is the religion of all EU states. So it is conceivable that the prince could belong to the EU.
So the thing to look for is a 7 year covenant between the prince related to Rome and many nations.
Have you heard of the European Neighborhood Partnership Instrument?
It is an agreement between the EU and many nations in the Middle East to help bring prosperity to the region. It was first signed on Jan 1st 2007. The EU promised to financially support each nation in different areas such as agriculture. Since this agreement curtails much financial assistance it had to be included in the EU's budget. The EU coincidentally has a 7 year budget.
However, that 7 year budget expired on Dec 31st, 2013. There was no abomination set up. However, when translating Daniel 9:27 the word confirms can also be translated as strengthens. When the EU renewed the 7 year covenant on Jan 1st 2014 they used much stronger language and included the ambition to bring an end to the Middle East conflict.
It is a 7 year covenant that has been strengthened.
So what is the next thing to watch for? It is the abomination of desolation that Jesus said to watch for or the rebuilding of the temple of God in Jerusalem in preparation for the wicked to sit in it. However, if we go back again and look at Dan 11 we see that the king of the north must come against the king of the south and be stopped by the ships from Cyprus. According to Daniel 8 this should occur 2300 days from Jan 1st 2014, provided that the EPNI is the covenant we are watching for.
O yes, in order for Dan 8 13-17 to make perfect sense the word middle in Daniel 9:27 has to be midst like in the king James. Daniel 8:17 puts the 2300 days at the end of the age.
So the order should be:
Temple rebuilt
10 Iraq comes against Egypt (perhaps ISIS against the Muslim Brotherhood)
The child of Rev 12 is caught up
2300 days from Jan 1st,2014 (Apr 17th, 2020) an abomination set up
Great tribulation in Israel
Signs in the sun moon and stars (asteroid hit)
The beast comes out of the pit for 5 months
The last, 7th, great trumpet sounds and Jesus gathers his elect from the 4 winds
The wrath of the lamb
We know the temple has been replaced by Christ, we don't need a new one of brick and mortar. Yet, the Lord is allowing one to be built.
I notice in the video you show that there is a statue of a Levi high priest, even of the breastplate he wore with the Urim and Thummim. Perhaps the purpose of this rather useless temple that has been replaced is to let us picture just what our real temple and high priest is, we have lost the understanding of it, we don't know what Christ replaced.
I wonder how many know what a Urim and Thummim is, what it's place was, and when and how it was lost? It is important to our understanding of Christ that we know.
I notice in the video you show that there is a statue of a Levi high priest, even of the breastplate he wore with the Urim and Thummim. Perhaps the purpose of this rather useless temple that has been replaced is to let us picture just what our real temple and high priest is, we have lost the understanding of it, we don't know what Christ replaced.
I wonder how many know what a Urim and Thummim is, what it's place was, and when and how it was lost? It is important to our understanding of Christ that we know.
I don't have the least idea what you are talking about, I am simply a lover of the Lord and of scripture. I don't believe in anything "new". God is eternal and everything was in the beginning and is now. I don't understand all of the symbolism of Daniel, and I don't even think we are meant to fully understand it. So you go ahead with all this, but count me out!!
I might think it is "new" to understand all of God without adding divisions, but I advocate "new" only in understanding all of God.
I might think it is "new" to understand all of God without adding divisions, but I advocate "new" only in understanding all of God.
So maybe you are looking at the wrong Prophecy:
Jeremiah 50:41-42 (NKJV)
[SUP]41 [/SUP] "Behold, a people shall come from the north, And a great nation and many kings Shall be raised up from the ends of the earth.
[SUP]42 [/SUP] They shall hold the bow and the lance; They are cruel and shall not show mercy. Their voice shall roar like the sea; They shall ride on horses, Set in array, like a man for the battle, Against you, O daughter of Babylon.
Jeremiah 50:46 (NKJV)
[SUP]46 [/SUP] At the noise of the taking of Babylon The earth trembles, And the cry is heard among the nations.
Jeremiah 51:1 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Thus says the LORD: "Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, Against those who dwell in Leb Kamai, A destroying wind.
Jeremiah 51:2-4 (NKJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And I will send winnowers to Babylon, Who shall winnow her and empty her land. For in the day of doom They shall be against her all around.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Against her let the archer bend his bow, And lift himself up against her in his armor. Do not spare her young men; Utterly destroy all her army.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, {Kuwait - Desert Storm, but the prophecy has not been fully fulfilled YET.} And those thrust through in her streets.
Jeremiah 51:6 (NKJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Flee from the midst of Babylon, And every one save his life! Do not be cut off in her iniquity, For this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; He shall recompense her.
Jeremiah 51:11 (NKJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Make the arrows bright! Gather the shields! The LORD has raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes {IRAN}. For His plan is against Babylon to destroy it, Because it is the vengeance of the LORD, The vengeance for His temple.
Jeremiah 51:18 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] They are futile, a work of errors; In the time of their punishment they shall perish.
Jeremiah 51:19-24 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] . . . And Israel is the tribe of His inheritance. The LORD of hosts is His name.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] "You are My battle-ax and weapons of war: For with you I will break the nation in pieces;With you I will destroy kingdoms;
[SUP]21 [/SUP] With you I will break in pieces the horse and its rider; With you I will break in pieces the chariot and its rider;
[SUP]22 [/SUP] With you also I will break in pieces man and woman; With you I will break in pieces old and young; With you I will break in pieces the young man and the maiden;
[SUP]23 [/SUP] With you also I will break in pieces the shepherd and his flock; With you I will break in pieces the farmer and his yoke of oxen; And with you I will break in pieces governors and rulers.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] "And I will repay Babylon And all the inhabitants of Chaldea For all the evil they have done In Zion in your sight," says the LORD.
Jeremiah 51:26 (NKJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] They shall not take from you a stone for a corner Nor a stone for a foundation, But you shall be desolate forever," says the LORD.
Jeremiah 51:27-29 (NKJV)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] Set up a banner in the land, Blow the trumpet among the nations! Prepare the nations against her, Call the kingdoms together against her: Ararat, Minni, and Ashkenaz. Appoint a general against her; Cause the horses to come up like the bristling locusts.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] Prepare against her the nations, With the kings of the Medes{IRAN}, Its governors and all its rulers, All the land of his dominion.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] And the land will tremble and sorrow; For every purpose of the LORD shall be performed against Babylon, To make the land of Babylon a desolation without inhabitant.
Jeremiah 51:33 (NKJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: "The daughter of Babylon is like a threshing floor When it is time to thresh her; Yet a little while And the time of her harvest will come."
Jeremiah 51:41 (NKJV)
[SUP]41 [/SUP] "Oh, how Sheshach is taken! Oh, how the praise of the whole earth is seized! How Babylon has become desolate among the nations!
Jeremiah 51:43 (NKJV)
[SUP]43 [/SUP] Her cities are a desolation, A dry land and a wilderness, A land where no one dwells, Through which no son of man passes.
Jeremiah 51:47 (NKJV)
[SUP]47 [/SUP] Therefore behold, the days are coming That I will bring judgment on the carved images of Babylon; Her whole land shall be ashamed, And all her slain shall fall in her midst.
Jeremiah 51:50 (NKJV)
[SUP]50 [/SUP] You who have escaped the sword, Get away! Do not stand still! Remember the LORD afar off, And let Jerusalem come to your mind.
Jeremiah 51:58 (NKJV)
[SUP]58 [/SUP] Thus says the LORD of hosts: "The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, And her high gates shall be burned with fire; The people will labor in vain, And the nations, because of the fire; And they shall be weary."
Jeremiah 51:61-62 (NKJV)
[SUP]61 [/SUP] And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, "When you arrive in Babylon and see it, and read all these words,
[SUP]62 [/SUP] then you shall say, 'O LORD, You have spoken against this place to cut it off, so that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but it shall be desolate forever.'
It sounds like to me, that ISRAEL with a coalition of Nations from the North, will get into a Nukear War with IRAN and the majority of the damage will take place in the territory of the old Babylonian Empire, and Damascus was once part of that Empire. Damascus was ruled by Babylonians between 572 (Nebuchadnezzar) and 538 B.C.
The Rapture has been imminent (from man's POV threatening to happen at any time) at least since James us so in Jas 5, the Judge is at the doors. The Rapture has no signs, as opposed to Christ's coming to take over earth.
In 1948 it would appear that prophecy was fulfilled (at least in part) with the re-establishment of Israel. That is surely a sign of her Kingdom coming.
IMHO, all the sensationalism going with the Olivet Discourse as when an earthquake happens, etc., is phony Newspaper Exegesis. I don't see the Beginning of Birthpangs in Mat 24 as happening during the Church Age.
So I don't know of any prophecy to be fulfilled before the Rapture now. We appear to be in the gap between Daniel's 69th & 70th week. We are also in the era called the Times of the Gentiles in which Jerusalem is trodden down by Gentiles (e.g., the Temple Mount).
The Destruction of the USA could be next after the Rapture, as the USA seems absent from prophecy. But that is just a guess. Whatever makes this people think that can get away with murdering millions of babies & becoming a New Sodom?
We can expect the fragmentation of the Roman Empire to continue as predicted in Daniel 2. The 2 legged Roman empire is fragmented in later stage. I think the break up of the Soviet Union (Eastern leg) was part of that. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Western leg fragment more (break up of EEC). Scotland might be the latest piece to fragment off -- we shall see in less that 2 weeks now.
In 1948 it would appear that prophecy was fulfilled (at least in part) with the re-establishment of Israel. That is surely a sign of her Kingdom coming.
IMHO, all the sensationalism going with the Olivet Discourse as when an earthquake happens, etc., is phony Newspaper Exegesis. I don't see the Beginning of Birthpangs in Mat 24 as happening during the Church Age.
So I don't know of any prophecy to be fulfilled before the Rapture now. We appear to be in the gap between Daniel's 69th & 70th week. We are also in the era called the Times of the Gentiles in which Jerusalem is trodden down by Gentiles (e.g., the Temple Mount).
The Destruction of the USA could be next after the Rapture, as the USA seems absent from prophecy. But that is just a guess. Whatever makes this people think that can get away with murdering millions of babies & becoming a New Sodom?
We can expect the fragmentation of the Roman Empire to continue as predicted in Daniel 2. The 2 legged Roman empire is fragmented in later stage. I think the break up of the Soviet Union (Eastern leg) was part of that. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Western leg fragment more (break up of EEC). Scotland might be the latest piece to fragment off -- we shall see in less that 2 weeks now.
No the USA is not absent. The statue of Liberty was modeled after a Babylonian Goddess statue, and John would have recognized it:
Revelation 17:15 (NKJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Then he said to me, "The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.
There is a High Degree of Probability that this is New York City where the Statue of Liberty and United Nations is.
Revelation 17:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these {the European Union} will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. {Nukes}
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
Revelation 18:9-13 (ESV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, “Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come.”
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls.
The USA is there but it is not a pretty end.
I also believe the USA is pictured in this verse:
Jeremiah 50:41-42 (NKJV)
[SUP]41 [/SUP]"Behold, a people shall come from the north, And a great nation and many kings Shall be raised up from the ends of the earth.
Revelation 17:15 (NKJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Then he said to me, "The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.
There is a High Degree of Probability that this is New York City where the Statue of Liberty and United Nations is.
Revelation 17:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these {the European Union} will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. {Nukes}
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
Revelation 18:9-13 (ESV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, “Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come.”
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls.
The USA is there but it is not a pretty end.
I also believe the USA is pictured in this verse:
Jeremiah 50:41-42 (NKJV)
[SUP]41 [/SUP]"Behold, a people shall come from the north, And a great nation and many kings Shall be raised up from the ends of the earth.
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