What does it mean to die to the world and law?

[Josh321]

Dying to the world is pretty much as dying to the law of sin.. but i'll use scripture to back up my saying, we all know that the law of sin is the commandments, without the commandment they wouldn't be any sin, [h=3]Galatians 2:19[/h]King James Version (KJV)

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

you see.. when we die to sin we die to the law also, because sin comes from the law, the law no longer has control over us because sin no longer has control over us, makes sense?

[h=3]Romans 8:2[/h]King James Version (KJV)

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

we are then under the spirit of the law which is christ Jesus himself, we now live for christ when we receive him.

doesn't it make sense though? if we die to sin we also die to the law because the law made sin, sin but now through christ Jesus sin no longer has control over us


[h=3]Romans 7:4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

i know a few people gonna ask this question so i'm just gonna get it out of the way before you do, " so what then are we free to commit adultery, steal etc etc " well of course not... you see when we receive christ we are a new being also our old man ( old person full of sin ) is dead and his nature is dead, and this new nature that we receive is a nature of God, so by nature we will live to please God no matter what, but you would have to experience this to know what i mean it's not easy to explain but that's how it is will just have to trust me, you see that is the power of God's grace sin will not have dominion over us
[h=3]Romans 6:14[/h]King James Version (KJV)

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.


take a look at what is being discussed here please read it carefully and try to understand this passage and what it is trying to say


[h=3]Romans 7:2-4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.


here paul is using this an example to show what happens between the law and christ, you see before we knew God we were bound by the law until we die, and when we die and put on christ we die to the law because sin has no dominion over us anymore it is dead, just like how if a woman husband dies he has no dominion over her anymore he has passed on she is free well it's the same thing with christ, i know most of you will just ignore most of what i said here but atleast it was worth an effort God bless

 

[Josh321]

i would love to see someone come and tell me different.. because that is exactly what it is saying all i did was say a little extra

 

[reuben26]

Q:When is a man saved?
A:When God calls him unto faith and repentance.

What happens during salvation?

A: The believer is made right(justified) before the sight of God for all eternity, though the believer might still sin because of the corruption from its inherited nature from his ancestor, Adam and Eve. During salvation a believer is given a new nature(divine nature) and becomes regenerated by the Holy Spirit. The believer's sin is joined into Christ's death on the cross(Gal 2:20) and he is buried with Christ in his baptism(Romans 6:3) so that as Christ was buried and raised to new life we might also live in the newness of life that Christ gives us(Rom.6:4)

Q: Having then the believer justified before God for all eternity, is he then free to sin?
Justification is followed by sanctification, sanctification is wherein the justified sinner is set apart by God for the purpose of glorifying God through the believer's journey in earthly life, the sanctified believer is set apart for Good works.(2 Tim. 2:21) Further speaking, a regenerate man, justified before the sight of God, genuine believer, will have Christ indwelling in him leading the believer into holiness and Christ-likeness. The notion that after being saved you can freely do whatever you want because you are justified by God for eternity is plain ridiculous and ignorant, the said believer has never been saved in the first place, because if the man was saved he would have a new life and God abiding in him that he would despise sin as much as Christ despises sin. Collectively, we are made 'dead unto sin' and have a new life found in Christ.

Q: Does a Christian need to maintain the commandments of God in order to maintain salvation?
A. Let me answer the question with a rhetorical question, If salvation was not attained by us to begin with, why is it our job to maintain it? Can we keep what is not ours? Having God given us the salvation, will He not maintain it? The saint will be a vessel of God and a display of God's glory. As a believer, we longer have to strive in maintaining our salvation via works of the law since Christ already fulfilled the law on our behalf. Before Christ came in his bodily form on earth the law was only to show mankind of its sinfulness and it's inability to make himself right before a righteous holy God. The law is simply a shadow of Christ's coming. Christ fully paid the demands of God's righteousness and satisfied the fullness of the law. As Christ's righteousness was imputed unto us in His death on the cross, we as believers, were justified by this grace of God and not by the works of the law. Our righteousness comes from the sacrifice of Christ, not from the works of law. Therefore, we are no longer obliged in doing the laws since it has already been fulfilled by Christ in his death and his righteousness imputed unto us, and in the first place we don't maintain our salvation, since God maintains our salvation. Having been died unto the obligations of the law, we are now*(EDIT) under the grace of God.

God bless us all.

 

[Kerry]

MY friend dying to the world is the same as dying to yourself. How do we that, by placing our faith exclusively in the work of the cross. That is saying that there is nothing that I can do when Christ said it is finished He meant what he said. You can read more and pray more and fast more. While that is good, It will do nothing for you if your faith is placed in what your doing. By placing your faith in the work of the cross, the Spirit will lead you to read more and pray more and fast more and then it will be profitable to you. Because it is the work or fruit of the Spirit and not that of your flesh. Am I making sense?

 

[crossnote]

MY friend dying to the world is the same as dying to yourself. How do we that, by placing our faith exclusively in the work of the cross. That is saying that there is nothing that I can do when Christ said it is finished He meant what he said. You can read more and pray more and fast more. While that is good, It will do nothing for you if your faith is placed in what your doing. By placing your faith in the work of the cross, the Spirit will lead you to read more and pray more and fast more and then it will be profitable to you. Because it is the work or fruit of the Spirit and not that of your flesh. Am I making sense?

Yes we have been placed into HIS death by an operation without hands where we have died to sin the world and the law and satan AND have been raised to NEW LIFE in Christ Jesus through His resurrection.

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
(Rom 6:4)

In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
(Col 2:11-15)

 

[Yahshua]

Yes we have been placed into HIS death by an operation without hands where we have died to sin the world and the law and satan AND have been raised to NEW LIFE in Christ Jesus through His resurrection.

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
(Rom 6:4)

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This is a good point that I want to emphasize even more for this thread...because I've read a few threads of brothers and sisters suffering with different trials and I think it's because - though we honestly and eagerly confess our belief in what Christ did for us - we don't really understand it. And if we don't really understand it plainly how can we really believe in it?

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This passage is basically another way of Paul explaining what Christ explains to Nicodemus in John 3; being born a second time (from above).

So here's a great way to know whether or not you have died to the world...and I challenge you to seriously ask yourselves these questions every day and night [and I am not excluded in this either]:

Are you still a child from your parents, OR are you a child from God? Who is really your brother and your mother and your sister (Matt 12:46-50)? Do you still identify yourself by your earthly family name in your heart...OR do you now identify by your heavenly father's family name only?​

The answer is not "both". You can not be from the 1st Adam AND the 2nd Adam at the same time. You are either in one or you're in the other. Your answer will determine whether or not you've really died to this world; whether or not you've really been born anew into the next life. Quoting passages and sharing biblical scholarship doesn't make what's written in those passages true for us, unless we live it.


For instance, I am a Joshua. My earthly father's name is David. My earthly mother's name is Manese...but if I still identify myself as being "Joshua, son of David & Manese" then have I really accepted Romans 6:4 (and the other Roman passages) and John 3:3 as true? Are these passages really true for me? No, they are not.

I can only have one bloodline: either my bloodline still traces back to the 1st Adam...or my bloodline now traces back to the 2nd Adam. Either "Joshua, son of David & Manese" is dead (and "Joshua, son of God in Christ" is alive) or the old man is still alive (and "Joshua, son of God in Christ" is not yet born). No matter how many times I confess that I'm "born again", if I believe my earthly family tree is still my heritage in my heart then that's proof I'm STILL alive to this world; I haven't died yet...and everything I've received from Adam's tree - including any characteristics, predispositions, vices, corruptions, as well as Adam's punishment - is still upon me.

But if I'm completely convinced in my heart that Christ and the Father are my only family tree now (i.e. "the tree of life"), and no longer my earthly family, then everything from Christ's heritage is upon me instead. Then and only then, has the "old man" truly died, and the death I owe is served (as it's appointed for every person to die once; Heb 9:27).

John 12:24-26

24"Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies [Christ's death], it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. 25"He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it to life eternal. 26"If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me [We must also die]; and where I am, there My servant will be also; if anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him.…
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Luke 9:24

For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will save it.​

This is the "renewing/change of the mind" that transforms us. This is how we die daily. You must make the choice of who lives. Every day. You must take up *your* cross and actually follow Christ TO **YOUR** DEATH...and if you are TRULY dead (i.e. the life of CC member ____, of the family of ____ has ended; is no more), THEN and only then are the OP passages true for you because the law has been satisfied by your death (in Christ).


1. THEN God's justice (your death) is served in Christ's body.

2. And a dead person can not beak the law of God anymore. You're dead.

3. Neither does a dead person suffer from illnesses, sadness, depression, lusts, cravings, unforgiveness, hate or other evils tempted by the flesh of Adam. You're dead.

4. Neither can a dead body die any more. You're dead already.

5. And if you're dead, the only life that now animates your dead body is Christ (Matt 24:27-28).

6. And the only life who has the power to obey the law of God in this flesh of Adam is Christ; the same Christ that now animates your dead body of the *same* flesh from Adam.

7. And the only life who God gave to be everlasting is Christ's.


This is why Christ is called The "Pass...Over" lamb, who's body went to the cross on Passover. Because it's a passing over of lives and you MUST participate in for it to be true for you (by taking up your cross and choosing to die too).

This is what it means to die to the world and the law.

 

[Hizikyah]

the law of sin and death is NOT Yahweh's Law

Romans 7:7, "What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet"

12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."

14, "For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin."

8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to
the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; bitterly opposed to, Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."

2 Kepha 3:15-16, "And recognize that the longsuffering of Yahweh our Savior is salvation; just as our beloved brother Shaul, in accordance with the wisdom given to him, has written to you, As also in all his letters, speaking in them about these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which those who are unlearned and unstable twist, as they also do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

I think the Lawless misunderstand Shaul

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

the word Law is: 3551. nomos
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law

Romans 13:9, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and all other commandments are briefly summed up in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself."

Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

could be properly translated:

Mattithyah 24:12, "And because the condition of without law will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

 

[Josh321]

the law of sin and death is NOT Yahweh's Law

Romans 7:7, "What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet"

12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."

14, "For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin."

8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to
the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; bitterly opposed to, Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."

2 Kepha 3:15-16, "And recognize that the longsuffering of Yahweh our Savior is salvation; just as our beloved brother Shaul, in accordance with the wisdom given to him, has written to you, As also in all his letters, speaking in them about these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which those who are unlearned and unstable twist, as they also do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

I think the Lawless misunderstand Shaul

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

the word Law is: 3551. nomos
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law

Romans 13:9, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and all other commandments are briefly summed up in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself."

Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

could be properly translated:

Mattithyah 24:12, "And because the condition of without law will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

instead of reading in parts bro, read the full thing, because that's exactly what the bible said when we accept christ we die to the law of sin we are no longer under the law but under christ and his grace

you can't just put this Romans 7:7, "What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet"

without reading this

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

instead of just reading for reading sake we should read and understand and ofcourse the law is holy, if there wasn't a law there wouldn't be any sin but when we die to the world we die to the law of sin and we are under new management in christ

 

[Josh321]

take a long thought about it though, if we die to sin don't we also die to the law automatically? think about it sin comes from the breaking of the law and if there wasn't a law there wouldn't be any sin but if we die to sin what longer have control over us? because we are not under sin anymore, that is why we die to the law also if we die to sin, we are now fully in the battlefield of trusting christ completely

 

[Hizikyah]

instead of reading in parts bro, read the full thing, because that's exactly what the bible said when we accept christ we die to the law of sin we are no longer under the law but under christ and his grace

you can't just put this Romans 7:7, "What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet"

without reading this

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

instead of just reading for reading sake we should read and understand and ofcourse the law is holy, if there wasn't a law there wouldn't be any sin but when we die to the world we die to the law of sin and we are under new management in christ

I would have to say you did this in your first post, and I quoted the verses I did because they are key conponets of understanding certian terms Shaul uses. believe me I have read all of Shauls writing many times, and I take what he says as a whole, one thing alot of people dont consider is that his writings are LETTERS, he didnt write them and say hey guys look at my Scriptures I just wrote, they were LETTERS to different people, particular people in diferent locations, so certian things he says can and will be misunderstaood without TRULY knowing the issues of each recipient of each letter. and studying a bit of theology on what each congregation was doing is not going to produce all the answers.

With that said, trying to understand Shaul outside of Yahshua is error, and yet today all we have is people that isolate Shaul from the rest of Scripture.

 

[Hizikyah]

take a long thought about it though, if we die to sin don't we also die to the law automatically? think about it sin comes from the breaking of the law and if there wasn't a law there wouldn't be any sin but if we die to sin what longer have control over us? because we are not under sin anymore, that is why we die to the law also if we die to sin, we are now fully in the battlefield of trusting christ completely

I trust Yahshua completely, not someone interpretation of Yahshua but His words:

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

Yahchanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:20-30, ""For I say to you: Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will certainly not enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment; But I say to you: Whoever is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment! Again, anyone who says; Raca! insulting your brother, will be in danger of the Sanhedrin, but whoever says: Nabel! desiring them to fall away, will be in danger of the fire of Gehenna. Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there you remember that your brother has something against you; Leave your gift there before the altar, and go first and be reconciled with your brother; then come and offer your gift. Settle a controversy with your accuser quickly, before he gets you into court; or your adversary may deliver you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be put into prison. Truly I say to you: You will never come out of there until you have paid the last penny. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not commit adultery; But I say to you: Whoever looks on a woman with lust for her, has already committed ladultery with her in his heart. So if your right eye causes you to offend; sin, gouge it out and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna. Or if your right hand causes you to offend, cut it off and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna."

 

[Josh321]

I would have to say you did this in your first post, and I quoted the verses I did because they are key conponets of understanding certian terms Shaul uses. believe me I have read all of Shauls writing many times, and I take what he says as a whole, one thing alot of people dont consider is that his writings are LETTERS, he didnt write them and say hey guys look at my Scriptures I just wrote, they were LETTERS to different people, particular people in diferent locations, so certian things he says can and will be misunderstaood without TRULY knowing the issues of each recipient of each letter. and studying a bit of theology on what each congregation was doing is not going to produce all the answers.

With that said, trying to understand Shaul outside of Yahshua is error, and yet today all we have is people that isolate Shaul from the rest of Scripture.

this is very true without the holy spirit the bible is a complete mystery to the unbeliever, must have the spirit to understand the bible

 

[Hizikyah]

this is very true without the holy spirit the bible is a complete mystery to the unbeliever, must have the spirit to understand the bible

I agree, I read it for my whole life but did not understand until I was humbled and Yahweh truly illustrated His power in my life.

 

[Josh321]

I agree, I read it for my whole life but did not understand until I was humbled and Yahweh truly illustrated His power in my life.

i was wondering what was going on when i read the bible cause i never read it like this before after i received christ, anyways i'm off to work will discuss this later God bless and have a wonderful day

 

[Hizikyah]

i was wondering what was going on when i read the bible cause i never read it like this before after i received christ, anyways i'm off to work will discuss this later God bless and have a wonderful day

praise and glory to Yahweh you have a great day also

 

[Josh321]

i would like to see what others think about this though.. or are they scared to reply? the bible said those born of christ are dead to sin and the law, what do you have to say about that?

 

[Brother_Don]

Christ Jesus is all the world to me, my life, my joy, my all, He is my strength from day to day, without Him i would fall. Christ Jesus is my friend. To every man openeth a high way and a low, and every man decideth the way his soul shall go. By the yard it is hard, by the inch its a cinch.

 

[Simiel]

Hello. Sorry I'm not going to throw up a whole bunch of scriptures, pretty sure y'all know what it say. Going to talk to you from my life and relationship wit the Farther. Dieing to yourself is putting on Jesus. In your walk, and talk. When you put off the old and on the new. The renewing of the mind. That means God doesn't see you as a sinner anymore and that your pure. When he looks at you he sees the same as Jesus. Y'all are 1..

 

[stonesoffire]

Mat 3:10
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 3:11
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mat 3:12
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

This scripture brought more understanding to me when I asked what tree is being cut.

Repentance and water baptism is Holy Spirit laying the axe to the tree of knowledge of good and evil that Adam ate of, and is what we all inherit from him.

Yeshua then baptizes us with fire of the Holy Spirit. This is sancfifying cleansing fire of God that purifies us. Now of the tree of life. Our "inheritance". Being formed in His image. The Spirit of God.

God is Spirit, Love, Light!

 

[Apostol2013]

instead of reading in parts bro, read the full thing, because that's exactly what the bible said when we accept christ we die to the law of sin we are no longer under the law but under christ and his grace

you can't just put this Romans 7:7, "What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet"

without reading this

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

instead of just reading for reading sake we should read and understand and ofcourse the law is holy, if there wasn't a law there wouldn't be any sin but when we die to the world we die to the law of sin and we are under new management in christ

The law of sin and death I suggest do some further study youlle be amazed what you find