What does the Dead Sea Scrolls mean to Christians?

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cdc1973

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I'm unsure why there are ideas that Jeremiah had the Ark at any given time. The ark was actually lost, no one has it and probably never will. God always works in mysterious ways and this is one that is probably best. Can you imagine what greed would come about if it were to be found.

The Dead Sea Scrolls are not all public and not all of them are known to even have been found. There are many more out there. The Vatican has as much as they can get their hands on in hiding for the purpose of keeping their power. The Scrolls tell a lot about other prophecies that are to come before Jesus comes back. They tell more about Jesus' life and his marriage to Mary Magdalene. There are even writings from Jesus himself that were destroyed as well as hidden from the public because of certain very political and powerful religions. If we all were exposed to ALL of the truth, there would be churches crumble, lose all of their power and wealth. With this said, I am sure there are those who read and wonder what the heck I am talking about. I cannot disclose my way of knowing right now but I assure you, be patient and you will be blessed to find out exactly what I am speaking of. The world is in for a huge surprise and the sad thing is, they should all be aware of it already but like I said, a very powerful church has hidden it. This church is also the one that the Antichrist will emerge from, in OUR TIME. We are living in biblical times and I am not speaking of the end of times. God is not giving up on earth just yet. He has given us one last chance, a new beginning for all that believe. His Wrath is going to turn this world around and make Christianity cool again, stop the non-sense and bring the true fear of God back into our lives.

Here are some hints biblical scholars :) See if anyone can figure it out.
Hebrews 1:6 And again, when He brings in the First Begotten into the world, He says, And let all the angels of God worship Him.

Romans 2:5 What if God, willing to shew his Wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction

Read Luke chapter 17 VERY CAREFULLY. Begin at 22 Jesus is not speaking of HIM coming. Jesus did suffer but if you have the correct dead sea scroll, you can apply it to many scriptures in the Holy Bible and find there is more. I am not a Jew, I believe in Jesus Christ, he is my Savior and God's Son. So for those of you who might question that, there is your answer. So many believe that Jesus is love but then who is God's Wrath?

More scripture about the same upcoming biblical time: Isaiah 10:6 - 7 Don't mistake this time for a time of the past, it is not. There is a lot in Isaiah.

Then look at the book of Daniel as well. Specifically 12:5 -7. The two on the bank of the river are Jesus and.....

This one is my favorite: John 3:13 And no manhas ascended up to heaven, but He that came down from heaven, even the SON OF MAN WHICH IS IN HEAVEN. Make anyone want to study this more and figure it out? God bless and I wish you all the best.
 

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I think the fact that the men how had the dead sea had so many scolls of scripture shows how important it was to them. It also shows how they copied down the texts carefully
 

Shilo

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Cdc1973,
None of the Gospels talk about Yeshua being married. The Gospels talk about his father , mother, brothers and sisters if there was a wife they would have said so.

Matthew 19:12 For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
 
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cdc1973

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Hi Shilo
Jesus kissed Mary on the lips. Men did NOT kiss women on the lips back then. Plus I have had access to scrolls that are not public.
 

zone

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Hi Shilo
Jesus kissed Mary on the lips. Men did NOT kiss women on the lips back then. Plus I have had access to scrolls that are not public.
*cough*

November 12, 1979 Vol. 12 No. 20 'Jesus Kissed Mary Magdalene on the Mouth': the Gnostic Gospels Could Rewrite Religious History:rolleyes:
People Magazine
 

tribesman

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...The Dead Sea Scrolls are not all public and not all of them are known to even have been found. There are many more out there. The Vatican has as much as they can get their hands on in hiding for the purpose of keeping their power. The Scrolls tell a lot about other prophecies that are to come before Jesus comes back. They tell more about Jesus' life and his marriage to Mary Magdalene. There are even writings from Jesus himself that were destroyed as well as hidden from the public because of certain very political and powerful religions. If we all were exposed to ALL of the truth, there would be churches crumble, lose all of their power and wealth...
These sounds have been heard many times before. Usually when time comes of revealing the "great news" it is oftenmost just reruns of old gnostic heresy and Bible denial that are the emperor's clothes. Or something in support of "book of Mormon" and similar..."fascinating" stuff for sensationalist "what's new for the day" people who think "organized religion" and "the church" is boring. People who not seldom are bordering on new age. This aside, there are, really, nevertheless some good arguments for that Jesus was married...and also Paul for that matter. However, for christians it does not matter which. As for any scriptural finds any sort, they must be proven to line up with the law and the prophets and have clear evidences of inspiration.
 
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zone

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This aside, there are, really, nevertheless some good arguments for that Jesus was married...and also Paul for that matter.
tribesman, i agree there's some support for the idea paul was a widower.
but Jesus married?
where does that come from?
 

tribesman

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but Jesus married? where does that come from?
Well...as you probably know, usually the drive to make a huge issue out of it and have it as a "fact" comes mainly from masonic, new age and mormon circles. Other sources however would just mention the possibility without stating it as fact.

You have some instances of his relation to Mary Magdalene which are sometimes seen as indications...plus the tradition that jewish men of his age usually were married. Especially those who were to be teachers.
 
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cdc1973; said:
Hi Shilo
Jesus kissed Mary on the lips. Men did NOT kiss women on the lips back then. Plus I have had access to scrolls that are not public.
All of what you say may be truth about God, but I am not going to buy it just yet. I don't go by what men say, I only follow what I know is of God. Paul warned Timothy about listening to men. Gnostism was preached in those days, and from what Paul says it is very probable that it was something Paul warned Timothy about. I am sure if Paul was here today he would warn us about many man made ideas of God and what they say scripture says.

Much of what I have found from the scrolls has given new depth and understanding to scripture that is there for us now, not something new. I am grateful, I thank my Lord for this. When it is something new, I think we are wise to be very careful.
 
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kenisyes

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In 500bc Greece was making city –states along the black and Mediterranean seas for trade. Their trade went all the way down to Egypt. This makes it possible for Greek letters to be on something from the first Temple time period. If you want to hide something you would want anyone who camea cross it not to understand the message. A mix of different languages would help out with that.
Jeremiah was just a little earlier than 500, maybe 570 right? It's certainly possible, but Israel was looking eastward to the babylonian threat, not westward to the Medieterranen. That's why I think it unlikely. Wouldn't the early Greek Mycean script be more in evidence at this time? The Greek in the Copper Scroll is regular NY style, I believe.
 
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kenisyes

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The Dead Sea Scrolls are not all public and not all of them are known to even have been found. There are many more out there. The Vatican has as much as they can get their hands on in hiding for the purpose of keeping their power. The Scrolls tell a lot about other prophecies that are to come before Jesus comes back. They tell more about Jesus' life and his marriage to Mary Magdalene. There are even writings from Jesus himself that were destroyed as well as hidden from the public because of certain very political and powerful religions. If we all were exposed to ALL of the truth, there would be churches crumble, lose all of their power and wealth. With this said, I am sure there are those who read and wonder what the heck I am talking about. I cannot disclose my way of knowing right now but I assure you, be patient and you will be blessed to find out exactly what I am speaking of. The world is in for a huge surprise and the sad thing is, they should all be aware of it already but like I said, a very powerful church has hidden it. This church is also the one that the Antichrist will emerge from, in OUR TIME. We are living in biblical times and I am not speaking of the end of times. God is not giving up on earth just yet. He has given us one last chance, a new beginning for all that believe. His Wrath is going to turn this world around and make Christianity cool again, stop the non-sense and bring the true fear of God back into our lives.
Are you sure you are not confusing the DSS with the Nag Hammadi find? They occurred at nearly the same time, and both were international sensations. These topics sound like they are from NH.
 
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Abiding

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I found a recipe for dead sea rolls. Best rolls ive ever tasted.
I dont know if im going to share them with the world or not.:p
 

Shilo

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Jeremiah was just a little earlier than 500, maybe 570 right? It's certainly possible, but Israel was looking eastward to the babylonian threat, not westward to the Medieterranen. That's why I think it unlikely. Wouldn't the early Greek Mycean script be more in evidence at this time? The Greek in the Copper Scroll is regular NY style, I believe.
Greeks began colonizing the shore regions of the Mediterranean and Black seas in 750 BC. Through trade their language would have been know. From what I understand there were a few different versions of the Greek Alphabet in used at one time. They were closely linked but had some differences. I think it was around 500 BC that there became a standard. Israel was worried about Babylon so it would be logical for them to put in a language they would not understand. People have worked on this for years and every idea does have possibilities.
 
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These dead sea rolls were found in a cave
near qumran.



to the far right. Some believe inhabitants
in the village ate these and most likely hid
them due to the leaven. Others have objected
to this theory.
 
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kenisyes

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I found a recipe for dead sea rolls. Best rolls ive ever tasted.
I dont know if im going to share them with the world or not.:p
This solves the problem of how Ezekiel and John in Revelation are to eat a scroll. It's just a misprint.
 
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cdc1973

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There is proof but these are NOT anything that a mormon has found. Not to step on anyone's toes but I disagree with that religion and several others. I am Biblical Christian, straight Holy Bible and no justification. As I stated earlier, I cannot disclose the details, only offered hints but so many people go by their own thoughts instead of letting God do the thinking for them. This is not going to be a secret for much longer. I am hoping less than a year. I wonder what people who think they understand the bible will think then because not many men can figure it out. Only the Chosen are revealed to very few secrets. In the end, all is known. We are no where near the end. There will never be peace on earth but Christianity will become stronger and stronger because God is tired of being slapped in the face. I'm sure all you Christians understand that. Hypocrites and non believers are about to find out how wrong they are. The Wrath of God is more powerful than any word or thought that any man can even begin to think. I wish I could say more. God bless you all.
 
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There is proof but these are NOT anything that a mormon has found. Not to step on anyone's toes but I disagree with that religion and several others. I am Biblical Christian, straight Holy Bible and no justification. As I stated earlier, I cannot disclose the details, only offered hints but so many people go by their own thoughts instead of letting God do the thinking for them. This is not going to be a secret for much longer. I am hoping less than a year. I wonder what people who think they understand the bible will think then because not many men can figure it out. Only the Chosen are revealed to very few secrets. In the end, all is known. We are no where near the end. There will never be peace on earth but Christianity will become stronger and stronger because God is tired of being slapped in the face. I'm sure all you Christians understand that. Hypocrites and non believers are about to find out how wrong they are. The Wrath of God is more powerful than any word or thought that any man can even begin to think. I wish I could say more. God bless you all.
What do you mean ? Just message me then .
 

tribesman

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...As I stated earlier, I cannot disclose the details, only offered hints but so many people go by their own thoughts instead of letting God do the thinking for them. This is not going to be a secret for much longer. I am hoping less than a year. I wonder what people who think they understand the bible will think then because not many men can figure it out. Only the Chosen are revealed to very few secrets. In the end, all is known. We are no where near the end...
OK. Unless you are willing to privately communicate the matter, me and other interested as well as basically the whole world will have to wait until the publication comes. Best wishes!