What does the Law REALLY say?
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No such thing is written. There is twisting of words, which you accuse others of doing, and there is adding to words, which is what you do here.
When God gave His commandments, He gave them to Israel, not you and me. You don't even keep the two He gave you, because if you loved Him as commanded, you wouldn't add to His words.
"And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment."
When God gave His commandments, He gave them to Israel, not you and me. You don't even keep the two He gave you, because if you loved Him as commanded, you wouldn't add to His words.
"And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment."
Elin, perhaps you are under the curse of the law because you do not have Christ to forgive you, for me, I depend on Christ so I am not under the curse of the law, I am under grace. Through that grace I am given I love my Savior and because of that love I do what my Savior asks, I try my best. My Savior told me I am never going to do that perfectly, I will always need Him, but when He tells me to try, that is what I do.
You're grasping there, aren't you?
I am not under the curse of the Mosaic Law because, like Paul, I am not under the Mosaic Law (1Co 9:20).
Like Paul (1Co 9:21), I am under Christ's law (Mt 22:37-39), which fulfills (accomplishes) the Law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8-10).
I don't need to be under two sets of laws, which would be redundant,
particularly when the first set is fulfilled (accomplished) in the second set (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8-10).
I am neither under the Mosaic law nor under its curse,
for I am under the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-39; 1Co 9:20-21; Gal 6:2) which fulfills (accomplishes)
the law.
Which would be all the NT commands spoken by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers.
Which is what the born again do.
I am not under the curse of the Mosaic Law because, like Paul, I am not under the Mosaic Law (1Co 9:20).
Like Paul (1Co 9:21), I am under Christ's law (Mt 22:37-39), which fulfills (accomplishes) the Law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8-10).
I don't need to be under two sets of laws, which would be redundant,
particularly when the first set is fulfilled (accomplished) in the second set (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8-10).
I am neither under the Mosaic law nor under its curse,
for I am under the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-39; 1Co 9:20-21; Gal 6:2) which fulfills (accomplishes)
the law.
Which would be all the NT commands spoken by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers.
Which is what the born again do.
K
[SUP]Matthew 22:37-40
[/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP] [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP] [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP] [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets
The reason this scripture says all the law and the prophets hang on these two commandments is because if you truly love the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind and love your neighbor as yourself. You would not want to kill, steal, lie, destroy or see any other harm befall anybody rather enemy or not.
True love does believe in discipline, correction as our Lord will discipline and correct us if we start to falter.
The new covenant of our Lord does not support death penalty. ( We are called to love, forgive, minister, and help lead them to repentance. )
I do believe not all the old testament applies, but some of it does as long as it falls under love. The 10 commandments show what one will or won't do out of love for God.
Our Lord Jesus did not do away with the commandments, He made additions to them.
Old testament ( Do not kill )........New testament ( He who hates his brother, is a murderer )
Old testament ( Do not commit adultery ).......New testament ( He who lusts in heart has already committed adultery )
Changed to include thoughts.
As well as others as well. People who claim the 10 commandments do not apply misread the bible. Nowhere does it say they were done away with, it says they are fulfilled through love.
[/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP] [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP] [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP] [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets
The reason this scripture says all the law and the prophets hang on these two commandments is because if you truly love the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind and love your neighbor as yourself. You would not want to kill, steal, lie, destroy or see any other harm befall anybody rather enemy or not.
True love does believe in discipline, correction as our Lord will discipline and correct us if we start to falter.
The new covenant of our Lord does not support death penalty. ( We are called to love, forgive, minister, and help lead them to repentance. )
I do believe not all the old testament applies, but some of it does as long as it falls under love. The 10 commandments show what one will or won't do out of love for God.
Our Lord Jesus did not do away with the commandments, He made additions to them.
Old testament ( Do not kill )........New testament ( He who hates his brother, is a murderer )
Old testament ( Do not commit adultery ).......New testament ( He who lusts in heart has already committed adultery )
Changed to include thoughts.
As well as others as well. People who claim the 10 commandments do not apply misread the bible. Nowhere does it say they were done away with, it says they are fulfilled through love.
If every person in the new age says that God is against God, and they dig in every scripture to "prove" it, saying how modern they are and new, I am not going to buy it for one minute, and all those who belong to the Lord does not buy it, either. I don't think for a minute God changed from the time God created the world and us and I love the Lord and trust Him. Christ and the Father were there from the first, they are the same, and they are with me right now in this day.
The commandments of God are the commandments of Christ (Mt 22:40).
"Word of God" = given to Jesus as its trustee (Rev 1:1)
"testimony (witness) of Jesus" = testimony from God, which Jesus gave to the angel,
who gave it to the churches (Rev 1:1)
The testimony of Jesus is the word of God. . .in Rev and all the other NT writings.
"Word of God" = given to Jesus as its trustee (Rev 1:1)
"testimony (witness) of Jesus" = testimony from God, which Jesus gave to the angel,
who gave it to the churches (Rev 1:1)
The testimony of Jesus is the word of God. . .in Rev and all the other NT writings.
O
Jesus Christ's Words were the first,
Jesus Christ's Words are the last,
Jesus Christ's Words are the present,
Jesus Christ's Words are the past,
He never changes, and neither do
His Words.
when you find yourself in a battle with yourself,
then it's time to go back to the basics of
God's Words with a humble heart.
Jesus Christ's Words are the last,
Jesus Christ's Words are the present,
Jesus Christ's Words are the past,
He never changes, and neither do
His Words.
when you find yourself in a battle with yourself,
then it's time to go back to the basics of
God's Words with a humble heart.
Where is the Savior in the covenant with Abraham to fulfill the promise of the land (Ge 15:9-21),
or in the covenant to be Abraham's God and the God of his descendants (Ge 17:1-22)?
The new covenant was not inaugurated until the resurrection of Christ.
The Mosaic laws were not revealed until Moses,
and the new covenant is based on grace, not law (Jer 31:31-34).
or in the covenant to be Abraham's God and the God of his descendants (Ge 17:1-22)?
The new covenant was not inaugurated until the resurrection of Christ.
The Mosaic laws were not revealed until Moses,
and the new covenant is based on grace, not law (Jer 31:31-34).
K
Hebrews 8:7
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second
This scripture sums if up to, that there was issues with the first covenant because it could not truly reconcile man to God.
Our Lord Jesus had to come in the flesh and die on the cross to give us that way to be reconciled to God through the remission of sins by believing in the Lord and repenting of our sins. The law was placed to show us our flaws so that we would see that we needed a savior to help us escape the evilness of this world.
Now that we have accepted Jesus we should no longer need that tutor ( law ) for we should know how bad we are/were. Therefore knowing what we need to repent of.
If you say things have not changed from the OT to the NT you do away with our Lords clear teaching.
Another example of change;
Old testament ( who ever sheds mans blood, his blood shall be shed by man )...........
New testament ( love, forgive, minister to )
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second
This scripture sums if up to, that there was issues with the first covenant because it could not truly reconcile man to God.
Our Lord Jesus had to come in the flesh and die on the cross to give us that way to be reconciled to God through the remission of sins by believing in the Lord and repenting of our sins. The law was placed to show us our flaws so that we would see that we needed a savior to help us escape the evilness of this world.
Now that we have accepted Jesus we should no longer need that tutor ( law ) for we should know how bad we are/were. Therefore knowing what we need to repent of.
If you say things have not changed from the OT to the NT you do away with our Lords clear teaching.
Another example of change;
Old testament ( who ever sheds mans blood, his blood shall be shed by man )...........
New testament ( love, forgive, minister to )
You can say on and on that Christ and the Father are not one, so Christ had nothing to do with Abraham, but what you say can not change the facts. Scripture tells us exactly what Christ completed and all you say to try to change it cannot do it, in truth. You can say that the Mosaic Law is only what was written on the stone tablets all you want, God is love and the law is of love, you cannot change that with your words. So you just go ahead and try to change God all you want, God simply is. So is scripture. What I say about it, and what you say about it has nothing to do with what is, that is told in scripture unless we use our reason to change what scripture says.
B
JaumeJ, when one soul repents and believes the gospel, the angels and all of heaven rejoices over that one soul. Do we rejoice with heaven and do we have joy when a sinner repents and receives the gospel of Jesus Christ by grace through faith or are we too busy keeping the law that we miss the beauty of heaven in all of its joy and splendor? When the prodigal son returned from his riotous living, his father ran out to meet him and kissed him over and over with joy in his heart. Later they had a celebration of great joy of his return in the father's house and all were invited, even the elder brother who was busy doing his duty not transgressing his father's commandment. But he would have nothing to do with his brother's return because he transgressed and lived in sin with prostitutes and the like, including his time eating with swine.
His younger brother was dead to him and wanted nothing to do with that transgressor. The mood and tenses reveal that the elder brother was very upset that his father never slew a kid for him and his friends to make merry and was outraged that the father was going to restore unto his younger brother all that he had before he left, the ring, the robe and put shoes on his feet. Think of it. The prodigal son was a transgressor and spent all of his inheritance on a wretched lifestyle of unbridled sin. Yet on his return to the father and his house he was met with mercy and grace and complete restoration with no limitations or probation. The prodigal was free to receive and experience all that the father wanted to give to him and those gathered in the father's house rejoiced together with great joy.
The elder brother missed out and forfeited the joy he could have had, because his heart was not filled with mercy and had no appreciation of the love of the father had for his younger son. The joy I am speaking of is the eternal dividend when we enter into the joy of the Lord. The elder brother was faithful in not transgressing the father's commandment but forfeited a certain degree of joy in heaven because his heart was not filled with mercy toward his younger brother. Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy, a mercy that rejoiceth against judgment. There will be believers in heaven who had sin problems in this life and transgressed the law, but will have more joy in heaven then some who did not transgress the law yet had little mercy in their heart for others. Those who are not merciful will suffer the loss of joy. You can't love someone without being merciful and you can't be like our Father in heaven without being full of mercy.
His younger brother was dead to him and wanted nothing to do with that transgressor. The mood and tenses reveal that the elder brother was very upset that his father never slew a kid for him and his friends to make merry and was outraged that the father was going to restore unto his younger brother all that he had before he left, the ring, the robe and put shoes on his feet. Think of it. The prodigal son was a transgressor and spent all of his inheritance on a wretched lifestyle of unbridled sin. Yet on his return to the father and his house he was met with mercy and grace and complete restoration with no limitations or probation. The prodigal was free to receive and experience all that the father wanted to give to him and those gathered in the father's house rejoiced together with great joy.
The elder brother missed out and forfeited the joy he could have had, because his heart was not filled with mercy and had no appreciation of the love of the father had for his younger son. The joy I am speaking of is the eternal dividend when we enter into the joy of the Lord. The elder brother was faithful in not transgressing the father's commandment but forfeited a certain degree of joy in heaven because his heart was not filled with mercy toward his younger brother. Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy, a mercy that rejoiceth against judgment. There will be believers in heaven who had sin problems in this life and transgressed the law, but will have more joy in heaven then some who did not transgress the law yet had little mercy in their heart for others. Those who are not merciful will suffer the loss of joy. You can't love someone without being merciful and you can't be like our Father in heaven without being full of mercy.
C
If one reads the letter to the Galatians chapter 3.
If one reads the letter to the Hebrews chapter 11.
His law exists long before Moses.
Jeremiah 31:33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel, after that time, " declares the Lord "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts, I will be their God, and they will be my people."
If one reads the letter to the Hebrews chapter 11.
His law exists long before Moses.
Jeremiah 31:33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel, after that time, " declares the Lord "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts, I will be their God, and they will be my people."
C
Rather, the commandments of Christ is the commandments of God. All the law and the prophets hang on the two commandments hang on a. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind - which He spoke through Moses in Deuteronomy 6:5.
b. Love your neighbor as yourself - Leviticus 19:18
The testimony of Jesus in NT writings includes "man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God" which He spoke through Moses in Deuteronomy 8:3.
b. Love your neighbor as yourself - Leviticus 19:18
The testimony of Jesus in NT writings includes "man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God" which He spoke through Moses in Deuteronomy 8:3.