What does the Law REALLY say?
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Grandpa, please open your eyes and don't blind yourself to truth because you know a half truth. Half truth's just won't do. This "place your faith in your own works" label is blinding you, people who do that are not "placing their faith for salvation" in those works. When you throw those judgments and labels out, you are just hurting yourself. You can rest in the Lord and work through love of Him, honestly. You can depend completely on the Lord, and try to please Him at the same time. Open your heart to the Lord, don't close Him out.
Psa 119:165
Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
Psa 119:166
LORD, I have hoped for thy salvation, and done thy commandments.
Psa 119:167
My soul hath kept thy testimonies; and I love them exceedingly.
Psa 119:168
I have kept thy precepts and thy testimonies: for all my ways are before thee.
Psa 119:169
TAU. Let my cry come near before thee, O LORD: give me understanding according to thy word.
Psa 119:170
Let my supplication come before thee: deliver me according to thy word.
Psa 119:171
My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy statutes.
Psa 119:172
My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
Psa 119:173
Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.
Psa 119:174
I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law is my delight.
Psa 119:175
Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me.
Psa 119:176
I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.
Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
Psa 119:166
LORD, I have hoped for thy salvation, and done thy commandments.
Psa 119:167
My soul hath kept thy testimonies; and I love them exceedingly.
Psa 119:168
I have kept thy precepts and thy testimonies: for all my ways are before thee.
Psa 119:169
TAU. Let my cry come near before thee, O LORD: give me understanding according to thy word.
Psa 119:170
Let my supplication come before thee: deliver me according to thy word.
Psa 119:171
My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy statutes.
Psa 119:172
My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
Psa 119:173
Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.
Psa 119:174
I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law is my delight.
Psa 119:175
Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me.
Psa 119:176
I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.
K
No a goat is one who believes they don't have to do anything but sit back and not help others.
Our Lord Jesus said we are not to hide our faith, but show it in what we do. Helping others is one of the biggest things we are told to do. The scriptures from the words of our Lord put this along with repentance, forgiveness, and being born again.
Our Lord Jesus said we are not to hide our faith, but show it in what we do. Helping others is one of the biggest things we are told to do. The scriptures from the words of our Lord put this along with repentance, forgiveness, and being born again.
Matthew 7:21-23
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Maybe you need to re-think your position.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Maybe you need to re-think your position.
K
James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
Once again we have another scripture from an apostle that matches what Jesus taught.
This scripture shows also that you must visit/help and minister to those in need, and keep yourself from being entangled in the sins of the world.
Non-responsive, all. . .because you don't have an answer.
Gal 3:16: "The promises were spoken to Abraham and. . .to Christ."
A promise (e.g., Ge 12:2-3, 15:4-6; Jer 31:31) is not a covenant (e.g., Ge 17:1-22; Lk 22:20)
unless the promise is sealed by a covenant.
The promises, not the covenants, were spoken to Christ
Indeed, he did.
But Abraham did not share the same covenant of grace NT believers do.
His covenant was conditioned on performance, on keeping it (Ge 17:9-14), under penalty of death.
That's not grace.
Slippin' and a slidin'. . .where you gonna' land. . .on Abraham, or on the covenant?
Abraham believed (Ge 15:6), and the covenant was based on performance (Ge 17:9-10), not grace.
Fundamentally initiated?
Entirely initiated.
Slippin ' and a slidin' again. . .where you gonna' land. . .on God or on the covenant.
God is a God of both law and grace.
The Abrahamc covenant is not, it is of performance (Ge 17:9-10), not grace.
No performance (Ge 17:10), no covenant (Ge 17:14).
So the new covenant of grace was neither promised, nor given, to Abraham.
The Abrahamic covenant was one of performance (Ge 17:10-11), not of grace.
Gal 3:16: "The promises were spoken to Abraham and. . .to Christ."
A promise (e.g., Ge 12:2-3, 15:4-6; Jer 31:31) is not a covenant (e.g., Ge 17:1-22; Lk 22:20)
unless the promise is sealed by a covenant.
The promises, not the covenants, were spoken to Christ
Indeed, he did.
But Abraham did not share the same covenant of grace NT believers do.
His covenant was conditioned on performance, on keeping it (Ge 17:9-14), under penalty of death.
That's not grace.
Slippin' and a slidin'. . .where you gonna' land. . .on Abraham, or on the covenant?
Abraham believed (Ge 15:6), and the covenant was based on performance (Ge 17:9-10), not grace.
Fundamentally initiated?
Entirely initiated.
Slippin ' and a slidin' again. . .where you gonna' land. . .on God or on the covenant.
God is a God of both law and grace.
The Abrahamc covenant is not, it is of performance (Ge 17:9-10), not grace.
No performance (Ge 17:10), no covenant (Ge 17:14).
So the new covenant of grace was neither promised, nor given, to Abraham.
The Abrahamic covenant was one of performance (Ge 17:10-11), not of grace.
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Ps 119:97-105:
Oh, how I love your law (the word of God)!
I meditate on it all day long.
Your commands make me wiser than my enemies,
for they are forever with me.
I have more insight than all my teachers,
for I meditate on your statutes.
I have more understanding than the elders,
for I obey your precepts.
I have kept my feet from every evil path
so that I might obey your word.
I have not departed from your laws,
for you yourself have taught me.
How sweet are your words to my taste
sweeter than honey in my mouth!
I gain understanding from your precepts;
therefore, I hate every wrong path.
Your word is a lamp to my feet
a light for my path.
Oh, how I love your law (the word of God)!
I meditate on it all day long.
Your commands make me wiser than my enemies,
for they are forever with me.
I have more insight than all my teachers,
for I meditate on your statutes.
I have more understanding than the elders,
for I obey your precepts.
I have kept my feet from every evil path
so that I might obey your word.
I have not departed from your laws,
for you yourself have taught me.
How sweet are your words to my taste
sweeter than honey in my mouth!
I gain understanding from your precepts;
therefore, I hate every wrong path.
Your word is a lamp to my feet
a light for my path.
P
Matt. 7:22
Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles'?
the thing i notice here is people saying, 'i did, i did, i did, i did...'.
'look what I DID for you, God!'
the Christian faith is not about the life of the Christian and what we do.
it's about the Lord Jesus and what He has done!
i remember hearing a story of an old pastor who, on his deathbed, told his wife he was sure he was going to heaven because he could not think of one good thing he had done.
he had ministered faithfully to his flock and loads of others throughout his lifetime,
but he understood that even his best deeds had a stain of sin on them.
even my tears of repentance need to be washed by the blood of Jesus.
Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles'?
the thing i notice here is people saying, 'i did, i did, i did, i did...'.
'look what I DID for you, God!'
the Christian faith is not about the life of the Christian and what we do.
it's about the Lord Jesus and what He has done!
i remember hearing a story of an old pastor who, on his deathbed, told his wife he was sure he was going to heaven because he could not think of one good thing he had done.
he had ministered faithfully to his flock and loads of others throughout his lifetime,
but he understood that even his best deeds had a stain of sin on them.
even my tears of repentance need to be washed by the blood of Jesus.