What Image do you have of Jesus?
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i love Carravagio 
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Yet Carravagio himself didn't know love...
'...he never lacked commissions or patrons, yet he handled his success poorly. He was jailed on several occasions, vandalized his own apartment, and ultimately had a death warrant issued for him by the Pope.An early published notice on him, dating from 1604 and describing his lifestyle three years previously, recounts that "after a fortnight's work he will swagger about for a month or two with a sword at his side and a servant following him, from one ball-court to the next, ever ready to engage in a fight or an argument, so that it is most awkward to get along with him." In 1606 he killed a young man in a brawl and fled from Rome with a price on his head. He was involved in a brawl in Malta in 1608, and another in Naples in 1609, possibly a deliberate attempt on his life by unidentified enemies. This encounter left him severely injured. A year later, at the age of 38, he died under mysterious circumstances in Porto Ercole in Tuscany, reportedly from a fever while on his way to Rome to receive a pardon...'
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravaggio
Yet Carravagio himself didn't know love...
'...he never lacked commissions or patrons, yet he handled his success poorly. He was jailed on several occasions, vandalized his own apartment, and ultimately had a death warrant issued for him by the Pope.An early published notice on him, dating from 1604 and describing his lifestyle three years previously, recounts that "after a fortnight's work he will swagger about for a month or two with a sword at his side and a servant following him, from one ball-court to the next, ever ready to engage in a fight or an argument, so that it is most awkward to get along with him." In 1606 he killed a young man in a brawl and fled from Rome with a price on his head. He was involved in a brawl in Malta in 1608, and another in Naples in 1609, possibly a deliberate attempt on his life by unidentified enemies. This encounter left him severely injured. A year later, at the age of 38, he died under mysterious circumstances in Porto Ercole in Tuscany, reportedly from a fever while on his way to Rome to receive a pardon...'
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravaggio
Yes he had a gift from God that would bless people 400 years later
the lamp itself doesn't illuminate the scene - the lighting in the painting is from another source.
this isn't a mistake - Caravaggio was a brilliant realistic painter, and knew exactly how light sources work in an image. ..
Caravaggio was very different from other artists of his time. he 'broke the mold' of religious iconography, choosing scenes from the life of Christ and other passages of scripture which were not typically portrayed, and almost never including backgrounds. he is famous for his use of chiaroschuro, the contrasting interplay of light & darkness, and for compositions that are far removed from the standard & static posed frontal or 3/4 views of the subjects. his figures are candid, animated, expressive, and captured in the middle of action, sometimes unflatteringly - this is very different from most of the artists of his time and before him. they are very human.
Carravagio shows us a candid and unlikely side of the scriptures through his art, faithful to the scripture and with great visual emphasis on light and shadow. he held up a lantern to these images, but the light that illuminated it came from without.
it's interesting to me how that although this artists's life was troubled, and he did not live piously, a work was done through him that endures for centuries, revealing Christ and pointedly provoking thought about His humanity, divinity and sacrifice.
Carravagio did the work of holding up a lantern for the world to see, but the light that reveals what he showed us did not come from his lamp, but from heaven above
we hold up a light to the world, but the light that reveals these things is not of us, but from the true light of the world!!
we should work for an enduring prize too, one that long outlasts our mortal bodies.
i love how John is completely freaking out, and looking toward heaven (on the left) and Peter is meaning well, but doing the wrong thing, trying to forcibly take Christ away from what must come to pass, and neither looking at Christ or to heaven, but laterally in the distance, at the world. i love how Caravaggio is holding up his ineffectual lamp, trying to see past the law and the apostle to glimpse Jesus Himself.
and how Christ, meek as a lamb, with His hands folded, is simply & obediently giving Himself up, with a look of sadness, but not despondency, as though in mournful prayer for everyone in the scene, with no touch of anger or defiance. not judging, but loving, and empathetic. He is not bound, but binds Himself with His own hands.
(please excuse the effect of my Art degree... i hope i'm not taking the thread too off-topic)
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This is so true. You don't have to believe me, but I have seen Jesus in a dream. Now I have heard many people say they have seen Jesus and give details of Him, but dude. Dude, man, when I saw Jesus He was exactly like the sun, I mean, I could barely even SEE Him man, like WHAT. He was like just, I could NOT even see His FORM. I can only give specifics of the light that was emitting from Him and it was living, like fire, but moved and shone like if you were in darkness and you saw a door and light was behind that door and if you were to open it light would just burst through, almost like that and it was shimmering and glimmering and it was almost like He was literally shining gold and white, but it wasn't like white, white, it was an otherworldly kind of color of gold and white, like snow but different?
Personally I do not know what Jesus looks like, I only hear what He looks like. My earthly eyes and everything I have does not understand that. I could use my imagination all I want but it doesn't really do much for it. Also, I have heard that the generic Jesus you see all the time is because of some famous artist painted Jesus, except the man this person USED was there boyfriend (the painter was also a male). Now I don't remember which artist this was or where I heard it from. I don't really care what Jesus appearance is because Jesus himself says to not ponder on appearance.
"3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price." 1 Peter 3:3-4
But, if someone says that had seen Jesus, yeah I believe they had. I'm not saying that it's bad to physically see all the details on Him, no. But if someone just makes it all about His appearance rather than His heart and makes it like as if it is an idol rather than the reason He came then yes, that is a problem. In fact I even have pictures of Jesus that Akiane had drawn in my room, not as an idol though, but to FOCUS on Jesus, when I see that picture I don't say "Oh, so, that's what Jesus looks like". No. But rather a reminder to just keep my eyes focused on Him.
Personally I do not know what Jesus looks like, I only hear what He looks like. My earthly eyes and everything I have does not understand that. I could use my imagination all I want but it doesn't really do much for it. Also, I have heard that the generic Jesus you see all the time is because of some famous artist painted Jesus, except the man this person USED was there boyfriend (the painter was also a male). Now I don't remember which artist this was or where I heard it from. I don't really care what Jesus appearance is because Jesus himself says to not ponder on appearance.
"3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price." 1 Peter 3:3-4
But, if someone says that had seen Jesus, yeah I believe they had. I'm not saying that it's bad to physically see all the details on Him, no. But if someone just makes it all about His appearance rather than His heart and makes it like as if it is an idol rather than the reason He came then yes, that is a problem. In fact I even have pictures of Jesus that Akiane had drawn in my room, not as an idol though, but to FOCUS on Jesus, when I see that picture I don't say "Oh, so, that's what Jesus looks like". No. But rather a reminder to just keep my eyes focused on Him.
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Hahaha, okay I need to add this as well, because God wants me to. It IS important to know what He looks like, but not in a judgemental way. It's not like, you see Jesus and that's it. Because when I saw Him (I forgot to add this part) I was terrified, and it wasn't like fear, but it was, I have been afraid all my life (and still am A LOT) of SEVERAL things. But this fear, the fear of The Lord is greater and righteous if ANY of that makes sense. I was beyond afraid. It was like, just, Jesus is so powerful, if He wanted to He can destroy me, you, whoever if He wanted.
"13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." Revelation 1:13-16
"5 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
7 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his thronewas like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire." Daniel 10:5-6
I don't know if this is of relevant but I think I need to add this:
"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." Matthew 24:5
"13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." Revelation 1:13-16
"5 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
7 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his thronewas like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire." Daniel 10:5-6
I don't know if this is of relevant but I think I need to add this:
"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." Matthew 24:5
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do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
(Matthew 10:28)
the Father judges no one,
but has entrusted all judgment to the Son
(John 5:22)
the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom
BUT OKAY I HAVE TO PUT THIs verse here too, then I will stop replying on here hahaha:
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:14
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The first painting that you posted, Jakob, is my favorite of Akiane's.
Some of you know the story but many don't. The first painting that Jakob posted was painted by a four year old girl (at the time) named Akiane who claimed to have gotten a word from God about what Jesus looked like or had seen Jesus ( i can't remember exactly )
It's kind of hard not to believe that she had gotten a vision, or whatever you want to call it from, God because because how can a four year old paint something that amazing? I'm just saying, that's my opinion.
((( This is a very Delayed post so if anyone has said what i have said, i apologize i.a. )))
Some of you know the story but many don't. The first painting that Jakob posted was painted by a four year old girl (at the time) named Akiane who claimed to have gotten a word from God about what Jesus looked like or had seen Jesus ( i can't remember exactly )
It's kind of hard not to believe that she had gotten a vision, or whatever you want to call it from, God because because how can a four year old paint something that amazing? I'm just saying, that's my opinion.
((( This is a very Delayed post so if anyone has said what i have said, i apologize i.a. )))
i love how John is completely freaking out, and looking toward heaven (on the left) and Peter is meaning well, but doing the wrong thing, trying to forcibly take Christ away from what must come to pass, and neither looking at Christ or to heaven, but laterally in the distance, at the world. i love how Caravaggio is holding up his ineffectual lamp, trying to see past the law and the apostle to glimpse Jesus Himself.
The first painting that you posted, Jakob, is my favorite of Akiane's.
Some of you know the story but many don't. The first painting that Jakob posted was painted by a four year old girl (at the time) named Akiane who claimed to have gotten a word from God about what Jesus looked like or had seen Jesus ( i can't remember exactly )
It's kind of hard not to believe that she had gotten a vision, or whatever you want to call it from, God because because how can a four year old paint something that amazing? I'm just saying, that's my opinion.
((( This is a very Delayed post so if anyone has said what i have said, i apologize i.a. )))
Some of you know the story but many don't. The first painting that Jakob posted was painted by a four year old girl (at the time) named Akiane who claimed to have gotten a word from God about what Jesus looked like or had seen Jesus ( i can't remember exactly )
It's kind of hard not to believe that she had gotten a vision, or whatever you want to call it from, God because because how can a four year old paint something that amazing? I'm just saying, that's my opinion.
((( This is a very Delayed post so if anyone has said what i have said, i apologize i.a. )))
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In my opnion accordign to the Bible we should not be making pictures of our savior. Many will disagree and say they are not worshipping the picture but you are calling that your god. The reason I say that is when you are shown a picture like that and your response for the most part is That is a picture of Jesus. Therefore you are calling that your god.