What is faith ? Faith is not believing.

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#61
once saved always saved is the most subtle deception of the devil.

Read galations, corinthians Paul tells everyone there to keep striving walking and putting away sin, cleaning up life, live with poverty give up self struggle to obtain the victory

if it was once saved always saved there would be no struggle

there is a church that baptises by immersion to put on a good show, then they ignore the entire Bible, throw out the old testament so children dont learn about true salvation and sanctification and ignore revelation and junk the gospels sinse that was the old dispensation

the only thing that they keep from the bible that we must DO is pay tithe and offereings!
every other thing that the bible says to do will be works and you go to hell!
but you must pay tithe and offerings

it is obvious they are all bout the money
they dont follow Jesus
they teach people should not follow Jesus for then that is works and you go to hell
Dont keep the commandments cause you will go to hell

only commandment breakers and those who dont follow Jesus are once saved always saved

how much more devilish can you get?

it is the synagogue of satan

when you hear SISPENSATION then you should RUN LIKE HELL if it existed


they also teach salvation from a Greek mythology

when the bible clearly teaches we need salvation from SIN

they teach salvation from HELL which doesnt even exist except in the catholic church...
Bible says you will DIE if you sin for eternity
death
ashes
gone

totally twisted it all up

anyway
I would woship at home like Paul did and read my bible through a few times marking as you go and applying every verse to yourself.

stay away from shysters that twist the sacrificial system removal to say the TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GODS LOVE are removed
these people are plain ignorant, dangerous and you will loose your sanctification and your crown

Paul told the corinthians and galations to KEEP AWAY from the super saints who came in and gave another gospel ignoring all the things Paul told them to DO

in the end
the few true bible KEEPERS will be persecuted and killed by the false billions of bible SPEAKERS calling THEMSELVES GOD and worshipping on THEIR OWN INVENTED DAY and alowing people to LIVE IN ADULTERY REMARRIAGE AND FORNICATION and the ANTICHRIST will WALK on earth pretending he is JEsus but he

1. Keeps sunday
2. Goes to nude beaches
3. allows sexual perversion and blesses perverts.
 
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nomos10

Guest
#62
So, what is the evidence then? works?

What I am reading is an incomplete thought, nomos10.

If faith = evidence, then give an example of how you would use this in your life, or even in a sentence or devotional.

I just cannot possibly understand what the application of this thought could be.
Faith is a knowledge, spiritual knowledge I go back to heb11:3 "through faith we understand" only a knowledge can give understanding. Not Believing , assurance, confidence , trust etc.
 
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nomos10

Guest
#63

You have not convinced me, it still does not make sense. If you have no hope. you can not have faith, You have to have an assurance the the thing hoped for (in this case, eternal life) is assured, or there is no hope. thus there is no faith.
Ok EG , Let me try another way. Gal 2:16 "knowing that a man is not JUSTIFIED by the works of the law, but by the FAITH OF JESUS, even we have believed in Jesus Christ that we might be JUSTIFIED BY THE FAITH of Jesus Christ "
1.we see here that believing is apart from the faith of Jesus
2.we are not justified by the assurance of Jesus or the confidence of Jesus .JESUS confidence and assurance is his personal confidence and assurance
3.so we are justified by faith.the revealed truths which is the faith of Jesus which contains righteousness
 
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nomos10

Guest
#64
once saved always saved is the most subtle deception of the devil.

Read galations, corinthians Paul tells everyone there to keep striving walking and putting away sin, cleaning up life, live with poverty give up self struggle to obtain the victory

if it was once saved always saved there would be no struggle

there is a church that baptises by immersion to put on a good show, then they ignore the entire Bible, throw out the old testament so children dont learn about true salvation and sanctification and ignore revelation and junk the gospels sinse that was the old dispensation

the only thing that they keep from the bible that we must DO is pay tithe and offereings!
every other thing that the bible says to do will be works and you go to hell!
but you must pay tithe and offerings

it is obvious they are all bout the money
they dont follow Jesus
they teach people should not follow Jesus for then that is works and you go to hell
Dont keep the commandments cause you will go to hell

only commandment breakers and those who dont follow Jesus are once saved always saved

how much more devilish can you get?

it is the synagogue of satan

when you hear SISPENSATION then you should RUN LIKE HELL if it existed


they also teach salvation from a Greek mythology

when the bible clearly teaches we need salvation from SIN

they teach salvation from HELL which doesnt even exist except in the catholic church...
Bible says you will DIE if you sin for eternity
death
ashes
gone

totally twisted it all up

anyway
I would woship at home like Paul did and read my bible through a few times marking as you go and applying every verse to yourself.

stay away from shysters that twist the sacrificial system removal to say the TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GODS LOVE are removed
these people are plain ignorant, dangerous and you will loose your sanctification and your crown

Paul told the corinthians and galations to KEEP AWAY from the super saints who came in and gave another gospel ignoring all the things Paul told them to DO

in the end
the few true bible KEEPERS will be persecuted and killed by the false billions of bible SPEAKERS calling THEMSELVES GOD and worshipping on THEIR OWN INVENTED DAY and alowing people to LIVE IN ADULTERY REMARRIAGE AND FORNICATION and the ANTICHRIST will WALK on earth pretending he is JEsus but he

1. Keeps sunday
2. Goes to nude beaches
3. allows sexual perversion and blesses perverts.
Amen to that!