What Is Sin?

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Jruiz

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When Jesus is called the Lamb of God in John 1:29 and John 1:36, it is referring to Him as the perfect and ultimate sacrifice for sin. In order to understand who Christ was and what He did, we must begin with the Old Testament, which contains prophecies concerning the coming of Christ as a “guilt offering” (Isaiah 53:10). In fact, the whole sacrificial system established by God in the Old Testament set the stage for the coming of Jesus Christ, who is the perfect sacrifice God would provide as atonement for the sins of His people (Romans 8:3; Hebrews 10). https://gotquestions.org/Jesus-Lamb-of-God.html
Hmm...the "guilt offering",covered the sins of those who sinned out of ignorance.Those who boldly sinned against God were not covered.

Leviticus 5:15“When anyone is unfaithful to the LORD by sinning unintentionally in regard to any of the LORD’s holy things, they are to bring to the LORD as a penalty a ram from the flock, one without defect and of the proper value in silver, according to the sanctuary shekel. It is a GUILT OFFERING.
''But anyone who sins defiantly,(which means bold disobedience ) whether native-born or foreigner, blasphemes the LORD and must be cut off from the people of Israel. …

Numbers 15:29 You shall have one law for him who does anything unintentionally, for him who is native among the sons of Israel and for the alien who sojourns among them.
30But the person who does anything defiantly, whether he is native or an alien, that one is blaspheming the LORD; and that person shall be cut off from among his people. 31Because he has despised the word of the LORD and has broken His commandment, that person shall be completely cut off; his guilt will be on him.'"…

Can you really live in sin and believe your sins are covered? I don't know...well not according to the guilt offering.
Isaiah 53:10But the LORD was pleased To crush Him, putting Him to grief; If He would render Himself as a GUILT OFFERING, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
 

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There is nothing wrong with the 10 commandments on their own. But the law of Moses has now been replaced by Christ Himself. Christ in us fulfills the whole intent of the law of Moses.

We do have laws in the New Covenant. They are exciting laws that bring life and wholeness to us all - because these are all Christ Himself in us.

There is no greater revelation than to know Him and the Father and to plumb the depths of their love and grace towards us which Paul says in Eph. 2:7 - the Father will be doing for all the ages to come to us.

Ephesians 2:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

Jesus fulfilled the law. The law was a mere shadow of the real thing which was Jesus.

Read the law to see Jesus in it and to know that Jesus did that for us and His life in us now leads us in all things. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.

We now live by:

1) The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. ( Romans 8:2 )

2) The law of love ( Romans 13:10 James 2:8 )

3) The law of faith ( Romans 3:27 and the law of Moses is NOT of faith - Gal. 3:12 )

4) The law of liberty ( James 1:25 )

5) The law of Christ - which is Christ Himself in us. ( Gal. 6:2 )

We can trust the Holy Spirit in us to lead us in all affairs of life. We don't go back to the beggarly elements that were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ in us.. Jesus is more then enough.

Yes...we glory in the laws that we have in the New Covenant because they are all Christ Himself living in and through us. ( Gal.2:20 and Col. 3:3 )

Galatians 5:22-23 (NASB)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

[SUP]23 [/SUP]gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law
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Good post and true words....but where is your 'evidence of Christ in you ?
I do not see you 'walk with Jesus as His true disciple 24/7....no Sir - come the weekend you walk a different way from Him as does most of the world. Yet you deride me for being His faithful follower.
We can all say/speak the right words but not actually LIVE them, and that separates the wheat from the chaff !
 
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Good post and true words....but where is your 'evidence of Christ in you ?
I do not see you 'walk with Jesus as His true disciple 24/7....no Sir - come the weekend you walk a different way from Him as does most of the world. Yet you deride me for being His faithful follower.
We can all say/speak the right words but not actually LIVE them, and that separates the wheat from the chaff !
So, this weekend thing is your Sabbath keeping?...and all of us that don't follow the law of Moses in the Sabbath shadow - we are living in sin?

No one is deriding you - people are trying to show you that we live by Christ now and not by the law of Moses.

You are free to observe a day special if you want. You have that liberty in Christ. - but to call others not keeping your law "come the weekend you walk a different way from Him" - is sheer nonsense and religious foolishness.
 

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So, this weekend thing is your Sabbath keeping?...and all of us that don't follow the law of Moses in the Sabbath shadow - we are living in sin?

No one is deriding you - people are trying to show you that we live by Christ now and not by the law of Moses.

You are free to observe a day special if you want. You have that liberty in Christ. - but to call others not keeping your law "come the weekend you walk a different way from Him" - is sheer nonsense and religious foolishness.
Sorry you see it like that, but I did not say any other than what you are doing.
Telling us Christ is 'in you is not the whole truth and will stop you from following HIM. I don't want to be the one to correct you or fill up your lack of knowledge - Christ does that ! We are just talking, and still being CHILDREN we will sometimes talk nonsense....but even in childish chatter God can reveal secrets.
To learn to understand God we need to first realize the 'despicable depths the human heart sinks to to discredit God and what is 'holy to Him. Our DOWNWARD slump begins with disrespect/disobedience and denying what is dear and holy to God...it's human nature raising it's ugly head.
Removing and abolishing all Commandments of God from Him is to practically strip Him of His power. Do you see JESUS doing that ? No, He did everything His Father asked Him to do and that included keeping the Sabbath. The reason people can't is because they deny God's Commandments. Can you see how that has a 'far-reaching effect down to our time and into the distant future ? Because like Jesus, God does not change----WE must change to 'join with the Lord, go where HE goes....WE must be 'in Christ so He can bring us to God !
And that is what human nature is kicking against, not wanting to relinquish selfwill. This can only change when we are completely honest and allow scripture to deal with our wayward heart.