What is the Messianic Kingdom?

[Elin]

Messiah = "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come."
Christ = "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come."
Messiah/Christ is about ruling and reigning (as king) in his kingdom.

"Messiah" is used only twice in the OT, in two consecutive verses of the book of Daniel.
"Christ" is used about 300 times in the NT to refer to the "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come," as having come in Jesus of Nazareth.

According to the prophet Daniel (Da 2:31-45), the Messiah/Christ, "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come,"
set up his kingdom during the Roman empire, at his first coming. And according to the Messiah ruler/king at that time,
it was not an earthly kingdom of this world (Jn 18:36), but invisible (Lk 17:20), set up within the hearts of men (Lk 17:21).
It is in their hearts that he rules and is king of those who believe in him, which hearts are his kingdom.
Since, according to the prophet Daniel, this temporal kingdom set up at his first coming endures forever (Da 2:44),
that would mean there will be no second temporal kingdom (nor do the NT Jewish writers anywhere mention such in the clear, specific revelation of the NT ).

KEY: While the Jews believed the Messiah would come exclusivly to them, we learn in Paul's letter to Ephesian Gentiles that before the foundations of the world (Eph 1:4) the Gentiles, to whom his letter is addressed, were made people of God.
Even before the beginning of time, the Messiah ruler/king was to rule and reign in the hearts (his kingdom--Lk 17:21) of those who believe in him, both Jews and Gentiles, his one people in Christ (Eph 2:15).

This spiritual kingdom (Lk 17:21) in the hearts of both Jews and Gentiles, God's one people (Eph 2:15) is that most valuable (segullah) treasure (Ex 19:5; Dt 7:6; Mal 3:17) closest to God's heart (Zep 3:17), and his personal inheritance (Dt 9:29, 32:9; 1Kgs 8:51, 53; Ps 28:9, 33:12; Eph 1:18), which gives him more glory than any physical earthly kingdom ever could.

This is the Messianic kingdom. . .in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of Jews and Gentiles now, his one people, which he ransomed/purchased back from the justice of God (Mt 20:28; 1Co 6:20; 1Tim 2:6; 1Pe 1:18-19), in order that he would have a kingdom, in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of his one people now.

This is the Messianic kingdom (Lk 17:21) of which he is the Messiah ruler/king now.
A future physical earthly kingdom would be anti-climatic (and which Jewish NT writers nowhere mention in the clear, certain word of God).

The "next" kingdom would be this everlasting Messianic kingdom (Da 2:44), in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of his one people,
being moved at his second coming into eternity--the new heavens and new earth, the home of righteousness (2Pe 3:13), where there is no death (Rev 21:1-4).

In the next everlasting Messianic kingdom we will see fulfilled all the symbolic and glorious unfulfilled prophecies regarding the eternal state of this now-temporal Messianic kingdom, in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of his one people, which is the one kingdom of the Messiah ruler/king.

So again, we see the marvelous unity of God's divine plan in Jesus Christ, to unite Jews and Gentiles (Eph 2:15) into one people of God, in the one Messianic kingdom (Lk 17:21) of both time and eternity, in and under his one Christ ruler/king.

God is about uniting his one people in Christ, not about dividing into two people, two kingdoms, two revelations, two futures.

 

[Abiding]

Elin when you have the time can you address or comment about Jesus on the throne of David?Acts 2
And Heb 12:18-29 a comment? ty ty ty

 

[nathan3]

These four scriptures come to mind :

Acts 1:9-14
King James Version (KJV)


9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.

14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

Zechariah 14:4



4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.



Isaiah 9:6-7

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.






Luke 1:32-33

King James Version (KJV)

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

 

[Pilgrimer]

Actually, there is no "messianic kingdom" in Scripture. The Kingdom that Jesus Christ came to open the way into and which he was given to reign over is God's Kingdom, the Kingdom of Heaven, which was typified and foreshadowed by the Kingdom of Israel. Which rather simplifies the whole issue of eschatology to my way of thinking.

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

 

[Abiding]

According to 1 Cor 15 Jesus will put down all rule and authority and all enemies
including the last enemy, death. then the end will come and He will deliver
The present kingdom up to God. Eternity.

It would be quite impossible to then have another kingdom with death and war.
Because all enemies and death are gone forever.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A few problems of note.

In Daniel 4

The final kingdom (not the roman empire which was in power at the time of Christs death until LONG after 70 AD) will be crushed by God personally. With it all gentile kingdoms will be destroyed (the age of the gentile is fulfilled) and God will set up his kingdom

In daniel 7

Again, not the roman empire in power at the time of Christ or 70 AD. But one which comes after it gains control over every nation tribe and tongue (the whole world) which has never occured. This kingdom will last 3 1/2 years, This kingdom too is Crushed by Christ, only this time we are given more detail, the leader is cast into eternal fire.. Again the king sets up his kingdom.. which every nation tribe and tongue will serve and worship him, again, never happened.

in rev

Again this king takes power over the new roman empire. Again given authority to persecute saints for 3 1/2 years. again gains total dominion over the whole earth again crushed by the return of Christ in the sky.. where the gentile powers are destroyed, and his kingdom is set up..


Thus we see in these prophesies..

1. A power of ten kingdoms will unite and form a kingdom which has come out of Rome (Dan 2: 41, Dan 7: 7, 24, Rev 17: 12-13)
2. A little horn, or beast, will come out from among these ten (Dan 7:8, Rev 17: 12)
3. Will gain control of the whole earth (Dan 7: 23, Rev 7: 7)
4. Will be given power for 3 ½ years (Dan 7: 25, Rev 13:5)
5. Will speak blasphemies (Dan 7: 25, Rev 13: 5)
6. Will make war with the saints of God, and given permission by God to do so (Dan 7: 21, Rev 13: 7)
7. God puts and end to his reign by defeating him (Dan 2: 45, Dan 7: 11, 22, 26, Rev 19: 20)
8. Will is cast into fire (Dan 7: 11, Rev 19: 20)

sorry but these things have not occurred yet..to say they have is to twist scripture!

 

[Abiding]

A few problems of note.

In Daniel 4

The final kingdom (not the roman empire which was in power at the time of Christs death until LONG after 70 AD) will be crushed by God personally. With it all gentile kingdoms will be destroyed (the age of the gentile is fulfilled) and God will set up his kingdom

In daniel 7

Again, not the roman empire in power at the time of Christ or 70 AD. But one which comes after it gains control over every nation tribe and tongue (the whole world) which has never occured. This kingdom will last 3 1/2 years, This kingdom too is Crushed by Christ, only this time we are given more detail, the leader is cast into eternal fire.. Again the king sets up his kingdom.. which every nation tribe and tongue will serve and worship him, again, never happened.

in rev

Again this king takes power over the new roman empire. Again given authority to persecute saints for 3 1/2 years. again gains total dominion over the whole earth again crushed by the return of Christ in the sky.. where the gentile powers are destroyed, and his kingdom is set up..


Thus we see in these prophesies..

1. A power of ten kingdoms will unite and form a kingdom which has come out of Rome (Dan 2: 41, Dan 7: 7, 24, Rev 17: 12-13)
2. A little horn, or beast, will come out from among these ten (Dan 7:8, Rev 17: 12)
3. Will gain control of the whole earth (Dan 7: 23, Rev 7: 7)
4. Will be given power for 3 ½ years (Dan 7: 25, Rev 13:5)
5. Will speak blasphemies (Dan 7: 25, Rev 13: 5)
6. Will make war with the saints of God, and given permission by God to do so (Dan 7: 21, Rev 13: 7)
7. God puts and end to his reign by defeating him (Dan 2: 45, Dan 7: 11, 22, 26, Rev 19: 20)
8. Will is cast into fire (Dan 7: 11, Rev 19: 20)

sorry but these things have not occurred yet..to say they have is to twist scripture!

Are you in the right thread?

 

[nathan3]

A few problems of note.

In Daniel 4

The final kingdom (not the roman empire which was in power at the time of Christs death until LONG after 70 AD) will be crushed by God personally. With it all gentile kingdoms will be destroyed (the age of the gentile is fulfilled) and God will set up his kingdom

In daniel 7

Again, not the roman empire in power at the time of Christ or 70 AD. But one which comes after it gains control over every nation tribe and tongue (the whole world) which has never occured. This kingdom will last 3 1/2 years, This kingdom too is Crushed by Christ, only this time we are given more detail, the leader is cast into eternal fire.. Again the king sets up his kingdom.. which every nation tribe and tongue will serve and worship him, again, never happened.

in rev

Again this king takes power over the new roman empire. Again given authority to persecute saints for 3 1/2 years. again gains total dominion over the whole earth again crushed by the return of Christ in the sky.. where the gentile powers are destroyed, and his kingdom is set up..


Thus we see in these prophesies..

1. A power of ten kingdoms will unite and form a kingdom which has come out of Rome (Dan 2: 41, Dan 7: 7, 24, Rev 17: 12-13)
2. A little horn, or beast, will come out from among these ten (Dan 7:8, Rev 17: 12)
3. Will gain control of the whole earth (Dan 7: 23, Rev 7: 7)
4. Will be given power for 3 ½ years (Dan 7: 25, Rev 13:5)
5. Will speak blasphemies (Dan 7: 25, Rev 13: 5)
6. Will make war with the saints of God, and given permission by God to do so (Dan 7: 21, Rev 13: 7)
7. God puts and end to his reign by defeating him (Dan 2: 45, Dan 7: 11, 22, 26, Rev 19: 20)
8. Will is cast into fire (Dan 7: 11, Rev 19: 20)

sorry but these things have not occurred yet..to say they have is to twist scripture!

For sure. The scriptures I posted are just to show Christ return here to earth, in keeping with the subject of this Thread.......

On a separate note, I think you got some of the scriptures mixed up in Daniel . For example the 3 & half years. Remember Christ shortened that time to 5 months. (Revelation 9:5; Matthew 24:22 ).

Not to derail the thread. just wanted to point that out to you.

 

[tribesman]

Messiah = "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come."
Christ = "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come."
Messiah/Christ is about ruling and reigning (as king) in his kingdom.

"Messiah" is used only twice in the OT, in two consecutive verses of the book of Daniel.
"Christ" is used about 300 times in the NT to refer to the "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come," as having come in Jesus of Nazareth.

According to the prophet Daniel (Da 2:31-45), the Messiah/Christ, "Anointed One, the ruler (king) who was to come,"
set up his kingdom during the Roman empire, at his first coming. And according to the Messiah ruler/king at that time,
it was not an earthly kingdom of this world (Jn 18:36), but invisible (Lk 17:20), set up within the hearts of men (Lk 17:21).
It is in their hearts that he rules and is king of those who believe in him, which hearts are his kingdom.
Since, according to the prophet Daniel, this temporal kingdom set up at his first coming endures forever (Da 2:44),
that would mean there will be no second temporal kingdom (nor do the NT Jewish writers anywhere mention such in the clear, specific revelation of the NT ).

KEY: While the Jews believed the Messiah would come exclusivly to them, we learn in Paul's letter to Ephesian Gentiles that before the foundations of the world (Eph 1:4) the Gentiles, to whom his letter is addressed, were made people of God.
Even before the beginning of time, the Messiah ruler/king was to rule and reign in the hearts (his kingdom--Lk 17:21) of those who believe in him, both Jews and Gentiles, his one people in Christ (Eph 2:15).

This spiritual kingdom (Lk 17:21) in the hearts of both Jews and Gentiles, God's one people (Eph 2:15) is that most valuable (segullah) treasure (Ex 19:5; Dt 7:6; Mal 3:17) closest to God's heart (Zep 3:17), and his personal inheritance (Dt 9:29, 32:9; 1Kgs 8:51, 53; Ps 28:9, 33:12; Eph 1:18), which gives him more glory than any physical earthly kingdom ever could.

This is the Messianic kingdom. . .in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of Jews and Gentiles now, his one people, which he ransomed/purchased back from the justice of God (Mt 20:28; 1Co 6:20; 1Tim 2:6; 1Pe 1:18-19), in order that he would have a kingdom, in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of his one people now.

This is the Messianic kingdom (Lk 17:21) of which he is the Messiah ruler/king now.
A future physical earthly kingdom would be anti-climatic (and which Jewish NT writers nowhere mention in the clear, certain word of God).

The "next" kingdom would be this everlasting Messianic kingdom (Da 2:44), in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of his one people,
being moved at his second coming into eternity--the new heavens and new earth, the home of righteousness (2Pe 3:13), where there is no death (Rev 21:1-4).

In the next everlasting Messianic kingdom we will see fulfilled all the symbolic and glorious unfulfilled prophecies regarding the eternal state of this now-temporal Messianic kingdom, in the hearts (Lk 17:21) of his one people, which is the one kingdom of the Messiah ruler/king.

So again, we see the marvelous unity of God's divine plan in Jesus Christ, to unite Jews and Gentiles (Eph 2:15) into one people of God, in the one Messianic kingdom (Lk 17:21) of both time and eternity, in and under his one Christ ruler/king.

God is about uniting his one people in Christ, not about dividing into two people, two kingdoms, two revelations, two futures.

Great post. Beautiful Truth.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Are you in the right thread?

yep.. I am showing when the messianic kingdom will occure. after these events..

If you read what I posted (ever word) you would have seen this..

I have to wonder my friend if you even read what I post (rolls eyes)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

For sure. The scriptures I posted are just to show Christ return here to earth, in keeping with the subject of this Thread.......

On a separate note, I think you got some of the scriptures mixed up in Daniel . For example the 3 & half years. Remember Christ shortened that time to 5 months. (Revelation 9:5; Matthew 24:22 ).

Not to derail the thread. just wanted to point that out to you.

Just so you know.. Revelations showed they are still 3. 5 years..So I have no clue what your talking about.

Rev 13: 5
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue[SUP][a][/SUP] for forty-two months.

 

[Abiding]

yep.. I am showing when the messianic kingdom will occure. after these events..

If you read what I posted (ever word) you would have seen this..

I have to wonder my friend if you even read what I post (rolls eyes)

Oh yes i read it but dont think this is a thread to deal with Dan 4 and 7 being fulfilled.
I think its to show that the Kingdom is now. And to explain that to you would take 950 posts.

 

[Pilgrimer]

A few problems of note.

In Daniel 4

The final kingdom (not the roman empire which was in power at the time of Christs death until LONG after 70 AD) will be crushed by God personally. With it all gentile kingdoms will be destroyed (the age of the gentile is fulfilled) and God will set up his kingdom

eternally-grateful, please, I ask you in the name of Jesus, just for a moment, put aside all the end times and prophecy doctrine and go back to the simple truths of the Gospel. To suggest that God will at some future time "set up his kingdom" means you have allowed these end-time doctrines to convince you that God doesn't have a kingdom. Surely if you think of these things from the perspective of the Gospel you'll realize that's not true. God already has a kingdom, God has always had a kingdom, it is an eternal kingdom without beginning and without end, and that kingdom is Heaven. Don't let these line upon line and precept upon precept here a little and there a little jumble of doctrines about end times take away from you the simple truths you learned from the Gospel. "God's kingdom" is the Kingdom of Heaven, and it doesn't need to be set up, it already exists, and has always existed.

And that's the kingdom, the Kingdom of Heaven, that Jesus came and laid down his life to open the way into. He did not lay down his life to set up another earthly kingdom in Israel. The Kingdom of Israel was a type and a shadow of the kingdom of Heaven and it's Heaven that Jesus opened the way into through his blood.

I am, of course, assuming that you began your walk and laid your foundation of faith in the doctrines of the Gospel? What can you tell me the Gospel teaches about God's Kingdom? What "kingdom" did Jesus preach and teach and talk about his entire ministry? Go back and look it up and share a few thoughts about that ...

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh yes i read it but dont think this is a thread to deal with Dan 4 and 7 being fulfilled.
I think its to show that the Kingdom is now. And to explain that to you would take 950 posts.

Lol.. Sorry, But we must use daniel 2 and daniel 7 and rev . because it shows when the kingdom will come.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. [SUP]45 [/SUP]Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold—the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]“I watched then because of the sound of the pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame. [SUP]12 [/SUP]As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.

[SUP]13 [/SUP]“I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.


[SUP]11 [/SUP]Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. [SUP]12 [/SUP]His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had[SUP][e][/SUP] a name written that no one knew except Himself. [SUP]13 [/SUP]He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. [SUP]14 [/SUP]And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean,[SUP][f][/SUP] followed Him on white horses. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Now out of His mouth goes a sharp[SUP][g][/SUP] sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. [SUP]16 [/SUP]And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:

KING OF KINGS AND
LORD OF LORDS.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, “Come and gather together for the supper of the great God,[SUP][h][/SUP] [SUP]18 [/SUP]that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all people, free[SUP][i][/SUP] and slave, both small and great.”

[SUP]19 [/SUP]And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.

all three off these pasages speak of the same event, it just goes into greater detail in each successive vision.

all speak of when Christ will set up his literal kingdom.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I know we do not agree. and probably will never agree. I am not trying to argue, just give another opinion so people who read these threads can get two opinions of the story.. It is up to them to decide.

I need to get to bed. Night all. and God bless

 

[Elin]

Elin when you have the time can you address or comment about Jesus on the throne of David?Acts 2
And Heb 12:18-29 a comment? ty ty ty

Yum, yum, thanks for the dessert!

Buck shot approach, maybe I'll hit something here:

Ac 2:30 - "God had promised David on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne."

God swore to David (Ps 132:11) a Son, the throne of whose kingdom would be established forever (2Sa 7:12-14).

Ac 2:30 refers to the promise of 2Sa 7:12-14, and states that it refers to Christ's kingdom, which is forever,

That echoes Da 2:44.

Heb 12:18-29 - is giving the reasons these Jews should persevere in the faith and not return to Judaism, as some were considering doing because of persecution from their families and Jewish friends.

It follows the presentation of Jesus as an example of perseverance (not falling away), and warns them not to fall back into Judaism, where there will be no sacrifice for their sin.

vv. 26-27 shaking of earth and the heavens would be referring to the end-time upheavals associated with the coming of Christ (e.g., 2Pe 3:12-13).

vv. 28 - the kingdom that cannot be shaken echoes Da 2:44 regarding the Messianic kingdom, which shall never be moved, never give way to another age, the gospel church will not be altered for another age.

v.29 - consuming fire - OT and NT reference - 2Th 17: "the Lord Jesus revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels"

Did I wing anything?

 

[tribesman]

...And to explain that to you would take 950 posts.

Needed that laffin'! Ty.

 

[Abiding]

EG i have answers that you will not receive.
So i believe ill save room and even tho Jesus
quoted from dan 2 and 7 and told of the fulfillment
im gona save my energy for my icecream.

 

[Abiding]

Christ priest and king

"Then say to him, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Behold, a man whose name is Branch, for He will branch out from where He is; and He will build the temple of the LORD. "Yes, it is He who will build the temple of the LORD, and He who will bear the honor and sit and rule on His throne. Thus, He will be a priest on His throne, and the counsel of peace will be between the two offices." (Zechariah 6:12-13)

Christ has built his temple, the church, which is the kingdom: "Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are. " (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)

Jesus is on the throne of David now:
"And so, because he was a prophet and knew that GOD HAD SWORN TO HIM WITH AN OATH TO SEAT one OF HIS DESCENDANTS ON HIS THRONE, he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ" (Acts 2:30-31)

"But of the Son He says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom. " (Hebrews 1:8)

If Christ were on earth, he could not be a priest of any kind. Only in heaven can he be a priest, and then only after the order of Melchizedek.

"Now if He were on earth, He would not be a priest at all, since there are those who offer the gifts according to the Law; " (Hebrews 8:4)

"just as He says also in another passage, "YOU ARE A PRIEST FOREVER ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK." " (Hebrews 5:6)

So it is clear, that Jesus is a king now and a priest now, and all this in heaven.

Jesus cannot be a king or priest on earth because he is not a Levite.

Elin ty i was just looking at those two texts where it had to do with the present kingdom.
I hear all the time Jesus needs to sit on Davids throne......then they spin it into a future kingdom.

 

[Elin]

Christ priest and king

"Then say to him, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Behold, a man whose name is Branch, for He will branch out from where He is; and He will build the temple of the LORD. "Yes, it is He who will build the temple of the LORD, and He who will bear the honor and sit and rule on His throne. Thus, He will be a priest on His throne, and the counsel of peace will be between the two offices." (Zechariah 6:12-13)

Christ has built his temple, the church, which is the kingdom: "Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are. " (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)

Jesus is on the throne of David now:
"And so, because he was a prophet and knew that GOD HAD SWORN TO HIM WITH AN OATH TO SEAT one OF HIS DESCENDANTS ON HIS THRONE, he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ" (Acts 2:30-31)

"But of the Son He says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom. " (Hebrews 1:8)

If Christ were on earth, he could not be a priest of any kind. Only in heaven can he be a priest, and then only after the order of Melchizedek.

"Now if He were on earth, He would not be a priest at all, since there are those who offer the gifts according to the Law; " (Hebrews 8:4)

"just as He says also in another passage, "YOU ARE A PRIEST FOREVER ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK." " (Hebrews 5:6)

So it is clear, that Jesus is a king now and a priest now, and all this in heaven.

Jesus cannot be a king or priest on earth because he is not a Levite.

Elin ty i was just looking at those two texts where it had to do with the present kingdom.
I hear all the time Jesus needs to sit on Davids throne......then they spin it into a future kingdom.

Excellent!!!