What is the true meaning of Colossians 2?
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If you don't kill, then you are not cursed because love is the fulfillment of the law - Love does no harm 
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How are you Hizi? Good to see you! Praying that God reveals the depth of His Grace to you, brother!
Warm regards,
-JGIG
.How are you Hizi? Good to see you! Praying that God reveals the depth of His Grace to you, brother!
Warm regards,
-JGIG
Oh, and just because you imply I dont understand the depth of mercy Yah provides does not make it true, but rather slander IMO...
This is the BDF, but it seems to be the personal attack forum.
Ok, so explain to me why/how I don't know "the depth of His Grace"
What would even make you think this? I have no ill will, but I want to know this matter.
For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. (from 2 Cor. 1)
The Bible says you are not cursed only if you follow EVERY SINGLE BIT of the Law (that applies to you). Disobey even one part, and you indeed are cursed.
That's the beauty of Grace - in Christ we have died to the Law - we are not under the Law, but under Grace, which teaches us to say no to ungodliness and live upright lives for His glory \o/!
-JGIG
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What is the “law of sin and death”? What “law” are we free from?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law* through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law*!"[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*Law” is word # G3551 – nomos, Strong's Concordance, nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law, Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: nomos, Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os), Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law, Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of, law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law;, metion: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin* that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*What is sin, that we may not continue in it?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7 -[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]16 And if I did what I did not want to do, I agreed that the Law is righteous.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]17 As it was, it was no longer I myself who did it, but it was sin living in me.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]22 For I delight in the Law of YHWH according to the inward man;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]23 But I saw another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the Law in my mind, and bringing me into captivity of the law of sin, which is in my members.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]25 Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"I have deliverance", is it deliverance from "do not steal" or deliverance from breaking "do not steal"? Or is it deliverance from a mind that wants to do those things?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:2 Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif](Romans 7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law.")[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:3 For what the Law was powerless to do, in that men sought to defeat; overthrow, fit, YHWH did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, to bear witness against sin. And so He condemned the sins of all mankind."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He did not bear witness against the Law, He came to bear witness against breaking the Law/sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Is sin "do not steal?" or is sin breaking the Command do not steal?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:14, “For we know that the Law is spiritual...”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What is the flesh opposed to? Following YHWH's Law? Rejecting YHWH's Law?[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2Pet 3:15-17, "and reckon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Sha’ul (Paul) wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures. You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of the lawless,"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]So what did Yahshua/Jesus abolish? I wouls like to point out that the words that are in italics* are ADDED:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 2:15-16, (NKJV), "having abolished in His flesh the enmity,*that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. "[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Not only does the next verse tell us what was abolished, but when you remove the ADDED words the meaning changes.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 2:15-16, "Abolishing the enmity Law, the Commandments, and the Ordinances, through His own flesh, in order to create in Himself one new man from the two; making peace, That would reconcile both in one body to YHWH through the sacrifice--having killed the enmity through Himself."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]enmity is word # G2189 echthra, Strong's Concordance, echthra: enmity, hostility, Original Word: ἔχθρα, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: echthra, Phonetic Spelling: (ekh'-thrah), Short Definition: enmity, hostility, Definition: enmity, hostility, alienation.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) Feminine of G2190; hostility; by implication a reason for opposition:—enmity, hatred.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]It is he opposition to YHWH's Law abolished, not the Law it's self.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:22 For I delight in the Law of YHWH according to the inward man; 23 But I saw another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the Law in my mind, and bringing me into captivity of the law of sin, which is in my members. 25 Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law* through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law*!"[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*Law” is word # G3551 – nomos, Strong's Concordance, nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law, Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: nomos, Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os), Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law, Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of, law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law;, metion: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin* that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*What is sin, that we may not continue in it?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7 -[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]16 And if I did what I did not want to do, I agreed that the Law is righteous.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]17 As it was, it was no longer I myself who did it, but it was sin living in me.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]22 For I delight in the Law of YHWH according to the inward man;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]23 But I saw another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the Law in my mind, and bringing me into captivity of the law of sin, which is in my members.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]25 Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"I have deliverance", is it deliverance from "do not steal" or deliverance from breaking "do not steal"? Or is it deliverance from a mind that wants to do those things?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:2 Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif](Romans 7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law.")[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:3 For what the Law was powerless to do, in that men sought to defeat; overthrow, fit, YHWH did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, to bear witness against sin. And so He condemned the sins of all mankind."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He did not bear witness against the Law, He came to bear witness against breaking the Law/sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Is sin "do not steal?" or is sin breaking the Command do not steal?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:14, “For we know that the Law is spiritual...”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What is the flesh opposed to? Following YHWH's Law? Rejecting YHWH's Law?[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2Pet 3:15-17, "and reckon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Sha’ul (Paul) wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures. You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of the lawless,"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]So what did Yahshua/Jesus abolish? I wouls like to point out that the words that are in italics* are ADDED:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 2:15-16, (NKJV), "having abolished in His flesh the enmity,*that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. "[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Not only does the next verse tell us what was abolished, but when you remove the ADDED words the meaning changes.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 2:15-16, "Abolishing the enmity Law, the Commandments, and the Ordinances, through His own flesh, in order to create in Himself one new man from the two; making peace, That would reconcile both in one body to YHWH through the sacrifice--having killed the enmity through Himself."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]enmity is word # G2189 echthra, Strong's Concordance, echthra: enmity, hostility, Original Word: ἔχθρα, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: echthra, Phonetic Spelling: (ekh'-thrah), Short Definition: enmity, hostility, Definition: enmity, hostility, alienation.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) Feminine of G2190; hostility; by implication a reason for opposition:—enmity, hatred.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]It is he opposition to YHWH's Law abolished, not the Law it's self.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:22 For I delight in the Law of YHWH according to the inward man; 23 But I saw another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the Law in my mind, and bringing me into captivity of the law of sin, which is in my members. 25 Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."[/FONT]
Thank you, that's actually my cool picture . It's from the article,
To your point about the commandments of God, what are the commandments of God after the Cross?
23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. (from 1 Jn. 3)
After that, the life of the believer is about Christ producing His Fruit in and through us, not about our performance of Old Covenant ordinances.
-JGIG
. It's from the article, To your point about the commandments of God, what are the commandments of God after the Cross?
23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. (from 1 Jn. 3)
After that, the life of the believer is about Christ producing His Fruit in and through us, not about our performance of Old Covenant ordinances.
-JGIG
Thank you, that's actually my cool picture . It's from the article,
To your point about the commandments of God, what are the commandments of God after the Cross?
23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. (from 1 Jn. 3)
After that, the life of the believer is about Christ producing His Fruit in and through us, not about our performance of Old Covenant ordinances.
-JGIG
. It's from the article,To your point about the commandments of God, what are the commandments of God after the Cross?
23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. (from 1 Jn. 3)
After that, the life of the believer is about Christ producing His Fruit in and through us, not about our performance of Old Covenant ordinances.
-JGIG
Revelation 14:12 - Parallel Verses
The Scriptures - Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Yah and the belief of יהושע.
New American Standard Bible - Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Romans 13:9-10, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and all other commandments are summed up in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the Law."
Also if we read the entire 1st John we would see this:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3(NASB)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and observe His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]
Thank you, that's actually my cool picture . It's from the article,
To your point about the commandments of God, what are the commandments of God after the Cross?
23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. (from 1 Jn. 3)
After that, the life of the believer is about Christ producing His Fruit in and through us, not about our performance of Old Covenant ordinances.
-JGIG
. It's from the article,To your point about the commandments of God, what are the commandments of God after the Cross?
23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. (from 1 Jn. 3)
After that, the life of the believer is about Christ producing His Fruit in and through us, not about our performance of Old Covenant ordinances.
-JGIG
Hence the spiritual adultery that they are doing all the while claiming they are "keeping the commandments of God".
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might (Deuteronomy 6:5). This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18). On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is (the intent of the) Law and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh – the smallest of the letters – will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until Yahchanan(John), since that time the Kingdom of Yahweh is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is (the intent of the) Law and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh – the smallest of the letters – will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until Yahchanan(John), since that time the Kingdom of Yahweh is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]
Um, no, Hizikyah, that didn't happen. No one has ever been banned on the JGIG site. If you were going by a different name on the JGIG Facebook page and were abusive to other posters, then there's a possibility you're on the 'banned' list there (sadly a long list of abusive posters).
I doubt any of us has a full understanding of the Grace and Mercy of God, Hizikyah. Praying that our brothers and sisters come to a fuller understanding of the depths of God's Grace and Mercy is far from slander, but a prayer to build you up in who you are in Christ.
If you took offense, it is because you chose to take offense.
Hizikyah, those who believe they must rely on the keeping of the Old Covenant to be pleasing to God by default do not understand the Covenant of Grace, the New Covenant in Christ.
My prayer is that you would come to that understanding.
Why?
And
And what is it that we are trained by?
11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled,upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. (from Titus 2)
All Scripture is inspired and useful for instruction, but Grace is what teaches us to say no to ungodliness, not the instructions found in the Old Covenant. All the Law does is to accuse us and to arouse sinful passions. So if Godliness and sinning less is your goal, you're striving through the Law in vain, because we who are in Christ serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
-JGIG
I doubt any of us has a full understanding of the Grace and Mercy of God, Hizikyah. Praying that our brothers and sisters come to a fuller understanding of the depths of God's Grace and Mercy is far from slander, but a prayer to build you up in who you are in Christ.
If you took offense, it is because you chose to take offense.
Hizikyah, those who believe they must rely on the keeping of the Old Covenant to be pleasing to God by default do not understand the Covenant of Grace, the New Covenant in Christ.
My prayer is that you would come to that understanding.
Why?
4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. (from Rom. 7)
And
11 For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. (from Heb. 12)
And what is it that we are trained by?
11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled,upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. (from Titus 2)
All Scripture is inspired and useful for instruction, but Grace is what teaches us to say no to ungodliness, not the instructions found in the Old Covenant. All the Law does is to accuse us and to arouse sinful passions. So if Godliness and sinning less is your goal, you're striving through the Law in vain, because we who are in Christ serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
-JGIG
You've pulled several Scriptures out of context in an attempt to get them to say what they do not say. When one reads Romans straight through, without parsing and pulling certain verses out and stringing them together in a false narrative, that they see that we who are in Christ are clearly no longer under Law - indeed are dead to it - and are under Grace.
Folks can go to the Testimonies Page at JGIG and see that for each one of those who came out of a Law-keeping mindset it was primarily because they came to the ends of themselves as they were striving under the Law, sat down, and read straight through Romans, Ephesians, Colossians, Galatians, Hebrews.
Paul is only difficult to understand if you try to force a Law-keeping belief system into what he writes. When read as they are written, as Paul clearly presents the Gospel of Grace in Christ, Paul's letters are not difficult to understand at all. That's the point that Peter was making to his Hebrew brethren.
-JGIG
I can reconcile it because I live in the New Covenant. The Cross and the Resurrection accomplished something. Christ's Ascension into heaven and His Perfect, Permanent High Priesthood mean something.
The commands that we guard and believe in are "believe in the One God sent" and "love one another".
And love fulfills the Law.
-JGIG
The commands that we guard and believe in are "believe in the One God sent" and "love one another".
And love fulfills the Law.
-JGIG
Whether or not one determines if the Feast of Trumpets has been fulfilled has no bearing on whether or not those who are in Christ are under the Law.
Those in Christ have died to the Law - we have no relationship with it at all (see Romans 7).
-JGIG
No strings attached, it either is fulfilled already or to be fulfilled.
Do you doubt that they will be?
And by Whom?
Whether or not a particular prophecy that has yet to be fulfilled has no bearing on what Christ has already accomplished - and that is this:
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. (from Rom. 3)
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. (from Rom. 3)
19 “For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” (from Gal. 2)
We are who we are in Christ based on what He has already done, and we who are in Christ are dead to the Law and alive in Christ, according to the Scriptures.
Whether or not Trumpets has been fulfilled has no bearing on what Christ has already accomplished and who we are in Him.
-JGIG
Hebrews 7:11-12, "Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."
Strong's Concordance “changed” is word #3331 - metathesis: a change, removal, Original Word: μετάθεσις, εως, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: metathesis, Phonetic Spelling: (met-ath'-es-is), Short Definition:change, transformation, removal, Definition: (a) change, transformation, (b) removal.
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) transfer: from one place to another 2) to change 2a) of things instituted or established
—Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G3346; transposition, that is, transferral (to heaven), disestablishment (of a law):—change, removing, translation.
Strong's Concordance “change” is word #3346 - metatithemi: I transfer, desert, change, Original Word: μετατίθημι, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: metatithemi, Phonetic Spelling: (met-at-ith'-ay-mee), Short Definition: I transfer, desert, change, Definition: (a) I transfer, mid: I go over to another party, desert, (b) I change.
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) to transpose (two things, one of which is put in place of the other) 1a) to transfer 1b) to change 1c) to transfer one's self or suffer one's self to be transferred 1c1) to go or pass over 1c2) to fall away or desert from one person or thing to another
—Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G3326 and G5087; to transfer, that is, (literally) transport, (by implication) exchange, (reflexively) change sides, or (figuratively) pervert:—carry over, change, remove, translate, turn.
The Perfect Priest!;
Hebrews 4:1-15, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest Who has ascended into the heavens: Yahshua the Son of YHWH, let us hold fast our profession. For we do not have a High Priest Who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all ways tempted as we are--yet was without sin."
Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."
Mat 7:12, "So then, whatever you desire that others would do to and for you, even so do also to and for them, for this is (sums up) the Law and the Prophets."
Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
“all” is word #G3650 - holos - Strong's Concordance, holos: whole, complete, Original Word: ὅλος, η, ον, Part of Speech: Adjective, Transliteration: holos, Phonetic Spelling: (hol'-os), Short Definition: all, the whole, entire, Definition: all, the whole, entire, complete
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) all, whole, completely
Romans 13:9-10, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and (#G2087 ) any othercommandments are summed up ( #G346 ) in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
“any”is word #G2087 - heteros
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the other, another, other, 1 to number,1a1) to number as opposed to some former person or thing,1a2) the other of two,1b) to quality,1b1) another: i.e. one not of the same nature, form, class, kind, different
summed up is word #G346 - anakephalaioó: to sum up, gather up, Original Word: ἀνακεφαλαιόω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: anakephalaioó, Phonetic Spelling: (an-ak-ef-al-ah'-ee-om-ahee), Short Definition: I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one, Definition: I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one
Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 119:103-105, “How sweet to my taste has Your word been, More than honey to my mouth! From Your orders I get understanding; Therefore I have hated every false way. Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.”[/FONT]
Strong's Concordance “changed” is word #3331 - metathesis: a change, removal, Original Word: μετάθεσις, εως, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: metathesis, Phonetic Spelling: (met-ath'-es-is), Short Definition:change, transformation, removal, Definition: (a) change, transformation, (b) removal.
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) transfer: from one place to another 2) to change 2a) of things instituted or established
—Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G3346; transposition, that is, transferral (to heaven), disestablishment (of a law):—change, removing, translation.
Strong's Concordance “change” is word #3346 - metatithemi: I transfer, desert, change, Original Word: μετατίθημι, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: metatithemi, Phonetic Spelling: (met-at-ith'-ay-mee), Short Definition: I transfer, desert, change, Definition: (a) I transfer, mid: I go over to another party, desert, (b) I change.
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) to transpose (two things, one of which is put in place of the other) 1a) to transfer 1b) to change 1c) to transfer one's self or suffer one's self to be transferred 1c1) to go or pass over 1c2) to fall away or desert from one person or thing to another
—Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
From G3326 and G5087; to transfer, that is, (literally) transport, (by implication) exchange, (reflexively) change sides, or (figuratively) pervert:—carry over, change, remove, translate, turn.
The Perfect Priest!;
Hebrews 4:1-15, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest Who has ascended into the heavens: Yahshua the Son of YHWH, let us hold fast our profession. For we do not have a High Priest Who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all ways tempted as we are--yet was without sin."
Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."
Mat 7:12, "So then, whatever you desire that others would do to and for you, even so do also to and for them, for this is (sums up) the Law and the Prophets."
Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
“all” is word #G3650 - holos - Strong's Concordance, holos: whole, complete, Original Word: ὅλος, η, ον, Part of Speech: Adjective, Transliteration: holos, Phonetic Spelling: (hol'-os), Short Definition: all, the whole, entire, Definition: all, the whole, entire, complete
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) all, whole, completely
Romans 13:9-10, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and (#G2087 ) any othercommandments are summed up ( #G346 ) in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
“any”is word #G2087 - heteros
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the other, another, other, 1 to number,1a1) to number as opposed to some former person or thing,1a2) the other of two,1b) to quality,1b1) another: i.e. one not of the same nature, form, class, kind, different
summed up is word #G346 - anakephalaioó: to sum up, gather up, Original Word: ἀνακεφαλαιόω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: anakephalaioó, Phonetic Spelling: (an-ak-ef-al-ah'-ee-om-ahee), Short Definition: I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one, Definition: I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one
Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 119:103-105, “How sweet to my taste has Your word been, More than honey to my mouth! From Your orders I get understanding; Therefore I have hated every false way. Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.”[/FONT]
Colossians 2:16-17
Paul , talking to new gentile and jew converts, why does he mention Sabbaths,
holy days , holy convocations ?
which he did himself for over 3 years, keeping the sabbath like his custom.
-lets break this down one bit at a time
16Let no man therefore judge you
-talking to the to new gentile and jew converts,
to not let others judge in what they did.
in meat, or in drink,
-like keeping the Lords Passover with bread and wine,
first day of unlevened bread feast.
or in respect of an holyday,
-all of Gods Holy convocations: Leviticus 23
or of the new moon,
-keeping Gods calandersalms 104:19, Exodus 12:2
Jesus as A man keep time by his calander not romes.
First Day of Sacred Year: Mar. 28 -Roman year 2017
knowing when to the keep feasts, by the moon[luner].
why then do we follow a calander by the sun [solar] ?
or of the sabbath days:
-the 7th day Sabbath, blessed and made Holy by God.
Paul himself for over 3 years was [keeping] the sabbath like his custom was.
so saying that he was teaching them [not to keep] the sabbath,
that would mean Paul would be an hypocrite, saying do as i say not as i do.
Paul is warning them not to return to or be influenced by their old pagan ways—
the ways of those who hated God’s laws and His festivals.
so verse 16 speaks about all of Gods ways, or the oracles of God
Acts 7:38, Hebrews 5:12, 1 Peter 4:11.
Not only is the weekly Sabbath God’s sign
but annual sabbaths are signs as well! (Exodus 31:12-17)
17Which are [a shadow] of [things to come];
-a pattern: Isaiah 41:22, 42:9
about things to come: future tence,
Christ is in heaven when this was said.
-
Passover
They shed the blood of the lamb, picturing Christ’s sacrifice to come.
the night Jesus Christ [was betrayed], He and His disciples prepared
and kept the Passover (Mark 14:12, 16; Luke 22:15).
1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped,
saying, This cup is the [new testament] in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it,
in remembrance of me.
referring back to this...
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat
this [passover with you] before I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not
any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said,
Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine,
until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them,
saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying,
This cup is [the new testament] in my blood, which is shed for you.
Do what in remembrance of me? They were taking the Passover.
Jesus changed the symbles of the passover only, did not do away with it.
-
Days of ULB
Exodus 12:42 a night to be much observed unto the Lord
Joh 13:17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
and then Paul says this...
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth
the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump,
as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep [the feast],
not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Paul said that to a Gentile church, to keep the feast of unleavened bread.
Acts 12:3 (KJV)
And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after (the days of unleavened bread),
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
-
Feast of unleaved bread represents putting away sin (transgression of Gods law)
God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.”
the feast of Unleavened Bread, as well as the Passover,
was ordained and established forever, prior to the Old Covenant.
-
Pentecost
The New Testament Church of God was started on the annual sabbath day called
“Pentecost,” or “feast of firstfruits.” Also called the “feast of weeks.”continued,
year after year, to keep this annual sabbath.
if the Apostles did not keep this Feast [Pentecost]that Jesus told them to,
they would not have recieved the power of the Holy spirit that day.
-
In the Holy Land there are two annual harvests, God shows a pattern of.
First, is the spring grain harvest, Second, comes the fall harvest.
Passover
Days of ULB
Pentecost
these three shadows have been completed,
but there is 7 convocations, so there is 4 to go.
Feast of Trumpets
Day of Atonement
Feast of Tabernacles
Last Great Day
there is meaning to everyone of these days, they where not just for sacrifices.
Gods Holy convocations shows man Gods plain for the worlds redemption.
the world has rejected this knowledge, so they do not study Gods ways.
everyone here should learn what these ordained days mean.
-
but the body (is) of Christ. (KJV)
this part of verse above, the (is) was added and should not be in there.
some of the newer translations add so many other things to twist the meaning.
this should really just read: but the body of Christ.
so don't let anyone tell you about Gods holydays,
(but) the body of Christ. - that would be [the rock]
Paul , talking to new gentile and jew converts, why does he mention Sabbaths,
holy days , holy convocations ?
which he did himself for over 3 years, keeping the sabbath like his custom.
-lets break this down one bit at a time
16Let no man therefore judge you
-talking to the to new gentile and jew converts,
to not let others judge in what they did.
in meat, or in drink,
-like keeping the Lords Passover with bread and wine,
first day of unlevened bread feast.
or in respect of an holyday,
-all of Gods Holy convocations: Leviticus 23
or of the new moon,
-keeping Gods calander
salms 104:19, Exodus 12:2Jesus as A man keep time by his calander not romes.
First Day of Sacred Year: Mar. 28 -Roman year 2017
knowing when to the keep feasts, by the moon[luner].
why then do we follow a calander by the sun [solar] ?
or of the sabbath days:
-the 7th day Sabbath, blessed and made Holy by God.
Paul himself for over 3 years was [keeping] the sabbath like his custom was.
so saying that he was teaching them [not to keep] the sabbath,
that would mean Paul would be an hypocrite, saying do as i say not as i do.
Paul is warning them not to return to or be influenced by their old pagan ways—
the ways of those who hated God’s laws and His festivals.
so verse 16 speaks about all of Gods ways, or the oracles of God
Acts 7:38, Hebrews 5:12, 1 Peter 4:11.
Not only is the weekly Sabbath God’s sign
but annual sabbaths are signs as well! (Exodus 31:12-17)
17Which are [a shadow] of [things to come];
-a pattern: Isaiah 41:22, 42:9
about things to come: future tence,
Christ is in heaven when this was said.
-
Passover
They shed the blood of the lamb, picturing Christ’s sacrifice to come.
the night Jesus Christ [was betrayed], He and His disciples prepared
and kept the Passover (Mark 14:12, 16; Luke 22:15).
1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped,
saying, This cup is the [new testament] in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it,
in remembrance of me.
referring back to this...
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat
this [passover with you] before I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not
any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said,
Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine,
until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them,
saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying,
This cup is [the new testament] in my blood, which is shed for you.
Do what in remembrance of me? They were taking the Passover.
Jesus changed the symbles of the passover only, did not do away with it.
-
Days of ULB
Exodus 12:42 a night to be much observed unto the Lord
Joh 13:17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
and then Paul says this...
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth
the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump,
as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep [the feast],
not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Paul said that to a Gentile church, to keep the feast of unleavened bread.
Acts 12:3 (KJV)
And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after (the days of unleavened bread),
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
-
Feast of unleaved bread represents putting away sin (transgression of Gods law)
God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.”
the feast of Unleavened Bread, as well as the Passover,
was ordained and established forever, prior to the Old Covenant.
-
Pentecost
The New Testament Church of God was started on the annual sabbath day called
“Pentecost,” or “feast of firstfruits.” Also called the “feast of weeks.”continued,
year after year, to keep this annual sabbath.
if the Apostles did not keep this Feast [Pentecost]that Jesus told them to,
they would not have recieved the power of the Holy spirit that day.
-
In the Holy Land there are two annual harvests, God shows a pattern of.
First, is the spring grain harvest, Second, comes the fall harvest.
Passover
Days of ULB
Pentecost
these three shadows have been completed,
but there is 7 convocations, so there is 4 to go.
Feast of Trumpets
Day of Atonement
Feast of Tabernacles
Last Great Day
there is meaning to everyone of these days, they where not just for sacrifices.
Gods Holy convocations shows man Gods plain for the worlds redemption.
the world has rejected this knowledge, so they do not study Gods ways.
everyone here should learn what these ordained days mean.
-
but the body (is) of Christ. (KJV)
this part of verse above, the (is) was added and should not be in there.
some of the newer translations add so many other things to twist the meaning.
this should really just read: but the body of Christ.
so don't let anyone tell you about Gods holydays,
(but) the body of Christ. - that would be [the rock]
Lamentations 2:17 (KJV)
The Lord hath done that which he had devised;
he hath fulfilled his word that he had commanded in the days of old:
he hath thrown down, and hath not pitied: and he hath caused thine enemy to rejoice over thee,
he hath set up the horn of thine adversaries.
-
1 Samuel 2:10 (KJV)he hath fulfilled his word that he had commanded in the days of old:
he hath thrown down, and hath not pitied: and he hath caused thine enemy to rejoice over thee,
he hath set up the horn of thine adversaries.
-
The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder
upon them: the Lord shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto
hisking, and exalt the horn of his anointed.
upon them: the Lord shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto
hisking, and exalt the horn of his anointed.
“For the children of Israel walked in all
the (sins of Jeroboam) which he did;
“Therefore the [Eternal] was very angry with Israel,
and removed them out of his sight:
there was (none left) but the tribe of Judah only” (2 Kings 17:18).
Israel began to be “carried away out of their own land to Assyria” (2 Kings 17:23).
-
“In Samaria, north of Jerusalem, lived a Gentile people whom
the Jews of Christ’s day spurned, calling them ‘dogs.’
They had been moved there from areas of the Babylonian Empire about 700 b.c.
by various kings, including Shalmaneser of Assyria (2Kings 17:18, 21-24, etc.).”
The people of Samaria then were not Israelites; they were largely Babylonian by birth.
After Israel was taken into captivity, people from five Babylonian tribes were moved
into Samaria. They brought their Babylonian and Assyrian gods and their pagan
practices with them.
The newly settled Samaritans asked the Assyrian king to send back a priest from Israel
to teach them how to worship the God of the land. The king complied (verse 27),
but what they received was a priest who taught them the pagan practices of northern Israel.
Thus, they were taught a religion of Old Testament teaching mixed with paganism.
The Samaritans began to worship Israel’s God using the false teachings of
the evil King Jeroboam. Remember, Jeroboam was an outright rebel.
He formed his own religion. He forced true priests of God to flee to Jerusalem
and Judea (2Chronicles 11:14). He established calf worship at Dan and Bethel
(1Kings 12:28-30).
He changed the fall holy days from the seventh to the eighth month.
He just might have moved the 7th day worship to sunday worship also.
He made priests of the lowest of the people, those who were not of the tribe of Levi .
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So the Samaritans were deeply deceived by an Israelite priest who taught them
pagan practices while showing them God’s name.
They began to refer to themselves as the people of God, but essentially they
remained Babylonian idolaters (2 Kings 17:41).
“They brought with them into the land of Samaria their own Babylonian mystery religion.
In the eighth chapter of Acts you’ll read of their religious leader in the time of Christ,
Simon Magus the Sorcerer” , Exposing Simon Magus, that Simon “used sorcery,
and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the
great power of God” .
This man is known in secular history as Simon Magus. The surname “magus”
reveals that he was a member of the priestly caste of ancient Persia.
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“And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face
from the house of Jacob(sinful Isreal) Isaiah 8:17:
Isreal became slaves, then lost to the world, dispersed with there captures.
by deforce, becoming the lost 10 tribes
now God is hidding his face from them, striped of name, heritage, and idenity.
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he will not wait forever, but we will not repent as a nation.
And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit.
Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel;
I will not again pass by them any more. Amos 8:2 (KJV)
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now the Jews of Jesus time is a little different .
the (sins of Jeroboam) which he did;
“Therefore the [Eternal] was very angry with Israel,
and removed them out of his sight:
there was (none left) but the tribe of Judah only” (2 Kings 17:18).
Israel began to be “carried away out of their own land to Assyria” (2 Kings 17:23).
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“In Samaria, north of Jerusalem, lived a Gentile people whom
the Jews of Christ’s day spurned, calling them ‘dogs.’
They had been moved there from areas of the Babylonian Empire about 700 b.c.
by various kings, including Shalmaneser of Assyria (2Kings 17:18, 21-24, etc.).”
The people of Samaria then were not Israelites; they were largely Babylonian by birth.
After Israel was taken into captivity, people from five Babylonian tribes were moved
into Samaria. They brought their Babylonian and Assyrian gods and their pagan
practices with them.
The newly settled Samaritans asked the Assyrian king to send back a priest from Israel
to teach them how to worship the God of the land. The king complied (verse 27),
but what they received was a priest who taught them the pagan practices of northern Israel.
Thus, they were taught a religion of Old Testament teaching mixed with paganism.
The Samaritans began to worship Israel’s God using the false teachings of
the evil King Jeroboam. Remember, Jeroboam was an outright rebel.
He formed his own religion. He forced true priests of God to flee to Jerusalem
and Judea (2Chronicles 11:14). He established calf worship at Dan and Bethel
(1Kings 12:28-30).
He changed the fall holy days from the seventh to the eighth month.
He just might have moved the 7th day worship to sunday worship also.
He made priests of the lowest of the people, those who were not of the tribe of Levi .
-
So the Samaritans were deeply deceived by an Israelite priest who taught them
pagan practices while showing them God’s name.
They began to refer to themselves as the people of God, but essentially they
remained Babylonian idolaters (2 Kings 17:41).
“They brought with them into the land of Samaria their own Babylonian mystery religion.
In the eighth chapter of Acts you’ll read of their religious leader in the time of Christ,
Simon Magus the Sorcerer” , Exposing Simon Magus, that Simon “used sorcery,
and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the
great power of God” .
This man is known in secular history as Simon Magus. The surname “magus”
reveals that he was a member of the priestly caste of ancient Persia.
-
“And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face
from the house of Jacob(sinful Isreal) Isaiah 8:17:
Isreal became slaves, then lost to the world, dispersed with there captures.
by deforce, becoming the lost 10 tribes
now God is hidding his face from them, striped of name, heritage, and idenity.
-
he will not wait forever, but we will not repent as a nation.
And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit.
Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel;
I will not again pass by them any more. Amos 8:2 (KJV)
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now the Jews of Jesus time is a little different .