Which of Jesus' teachings were applicable only to the Jews?

[7seasrekeyed]

as someone who has pointed out that salvation has ALWAYS been by faith a good number of times now, don't hold your breath for acknowledgement from someone saying old and new covenants

there are a good half dozen...I believe 7 covenants...and some believe more

that doesn't play on their list of the Bible's greatest hits [/QUOTE

Ya, I know most can not accept.

the old is the foundation for the new testament

and to many it seems 'works' is a dirty word

yet, Jesus does judge these 'works' in Revelation, so go figure

 

[Studyman]

the old is the foundation for the new testament

and to many it seems 'works' is a dirty word

yet, Jesus does judge these 'works' in Revelation, so go figure

Well you can't say Jesus didn't warn us of these teachings. I have found a whole new respect for Christ's Words. When He says Many, He means MANY.

 

[Issachar92]

the old is the foundation for the new testament

and to many it seems 'works' is a dirty word

yet, Jesus does judge these 'works' in Revelation, so go figure

Im waiting for an answer on this too.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Why does it say have done good if deeds dont matter? Paul says the same thing in Romans 2:6-7.
Paul also preached the same thing as Jesus, but wait I thought Paul had a different gospel than Jesus? Oh wait. Whats going on here:

Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

I love it how it says "and then to the Gentiles" its almost as if its there just so that people cant come up with the excuse that "Oh, thats for the jews only". Lemme tell yall something: Go ask any rabbi if a convert to judaism is under the same Torah as a born jew. Guess what hes gonna tell ya? I know what, he would tell you its the same commandments. Always have, always will, do yall think when Ruth joined Israel that they had different rules for Ruth? Come on.

Well, looks like we need some bible pundits and scholars to splain these verses away! Or atleast clarify what they really mean. A lil help here?

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 11:4, "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is in His holy temple; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men."[/FONT]

 

[Studyman]

Im waiting for an answer on this too.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Why does it say have done good if deeds dont matter? Paul says the same thing in Romans 2:6-7.
Paul also preached the same thing as Jesus, but wait I thought Paul had a different gospel than Jesus? Oh wait. Whats going on here:

Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

I love it how it says "and then to the Gentiles" its almost as if its there just so that people cant come up with the excuse that "Oh, thats for the jews only". Lemme tell yall something: Go ask any rabbi if a convert to judaism is under the same Torah as a born jew. Guess what hes gonna tell ya? I know what, he would tell you its the same commandments. Always have, always will, do yall think when Ruth joined Israel that they had different rules for Ruth? Come on.

Well, looks like we need some bible pundits and scholars to splain these verses away! Or atleast clarify what they really mean. A lil help here?

This is all part of the Little by Little mentioned by God through Moses. It has to do with the Narrow Path and the few that find it

There is a man on this forum who told me a few days ago. He prayed for a revival of knowledge in the Mainstream Church, but them gave God the Glory by saying. We are called to "come out of her" not change her. This my friend is a Spiritual truth not many have. Thank you LGF, for this beautiful truth.

 

[BenFTW]

oh yes

'people'

but no one here. try to understand what people you do not agree with are actually saying and it has nothing to do with earning salvation or works salvation or whatever hobby horse you want to ride into the discussion

you are deviating from the op by inserting the usual rhetoric about how anyone who does not agree with certain things you perceive as correct, must, by default, believe in working, or earning or working to earn or keep, their salvation

it's like throwing out bait for a discussion that has been had multiple times to the exhaustion of all

let it go already. no one is saying anything close to works salvation

You seem to have a level of hostility that is palpable. Mind easing up a bit? I don't even recall previous conversations with you, and seeing as you joined in basically the start of Sept, you speak as if you've been here longer. Were you under a different name and came back? Either way, I see that you often comment on what I say but I don't really respond cause usually you're just inferring what I am saying or being condescending reaching conclusions that weren't intended.

Are you here to fellowship or to just attack everything I say? If its the latter, I'd appreciate it if you'd just ignore my posts. Honestly, considering your strong stance (at least what you seem to be purporting here) of your absolute mutually exclusive belief system to mine, why ever bother chatting?

 

[shrume]

Ok, Nehemiah6, but probably you agree that there are some differences between Jesus' teachings and those of Paul. In case of conflict, which prevails?

There is no conflict.

Matt 19:
16) And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17) And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18) He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19) Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 10:
9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Both Jesus and Paul are saying what people must do to be saved. Are they saying the same thing?

If there appears to be, go with what Jesus said imo.

Do you understand what God through Christ made available on the day of Pentecost?

Peter said many will be twisting Paul's letters and boy was he right! All the false doctrines we got are twisted from Paul's writings starting from Ephesians 2:8-9 to make obeying Jesus optional and a work.

Ephesians is quite clear that we were saved by faith to do good works, and not by doing good works (Eph 2:8-10).

What is false about that?

Butchering through the book of Romans also comes to mind. Hard to tell sometimes if its just laziness not checking the OT quotes from Paul or if its just not caring.

Who is butchering Romans?

Rom 3:
20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21) But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22) Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Do you not see a difference in what Paul says in Romans compared to what Jesus said in the gospels: that a person must keep the law to be saved?

Paul was an apostle to the gentiles so he dealt alot with the topics surrounding judaizers and church order and structure. Interestingly, while the not of works from Paul is noted and very very closely held, when it comes to 1 corinthians 14:34-36 (or 1 tim 2:12). then it doesnt really matter, who cares right? Its probably something under the law. Probably means something different in the greek, i dunno. Lets ask the experts and bible pundits.

I'm not going to get into it now, but there is evidence that 1 Cor 14:34-35 are not authentic. And I submit that 1 Tim 2:12 is misunderstood.

Junia was an apostle, Chloe had a church in her house, Deborah judged Israel.

Gal 3:
28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I'd rather listen to a female teacher who knows what she's talking about than a male who doesn't.

(I'm a male, BTW).

 

[Issachar92]

Do you not see a difference in what Paul says in Romans compared to what Jesus said in the gospels: that a person must keep the law to be saved?


I'm not going to get into it now, but there is evidence that 1 Cor 14:34-35 are not authentic. And I submit that 1 Tim 2:12 is misunderstood.

Gal 3:
28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I'd rather listen to a female teacher who knows what she's talking about than a male who doesn't.

(I'm a male, BTW).

Where people err is stating obeying Jesus is "works" where not of works is talking about works of the law like Paul always is. It was a big topic at the time (acts15:1).

Romans 10:9 does not refute matt 19:16-17.... No wonder you guys are in a mess if you cant even combine what verse A says to verse B. instead of making everything contradict itself.

As for your saying 1 corinthians 14:34-36 isnt authentic thats already enough to say your opinion is worth nothing. Its in every manuscript we have even the alexandrian ones. You can just pick and choose, maybe some of the other commandments aint authentic? Thats the devil that'll make you think that way. Confusion aint from God.

And btw with the way you interpret galatians 3:28 you arent a male. Remember there is no jew nor gentile no male nor female in Christ, we're just one and stuff dude, Jesus ended that stuff? OH wait yeah its talking about how people are saved, all are saved and one in the Messiah.
But who cares, lets just make it contradict 1 corinthians 14:34-36, oh nvm, lets just say it isnt authentic, even tho its in all the manuscripts.

I shouldn't of even responded to you after that garbage that you spewed out about it "not being authentic" the bible correctors are in full swing. Trash trash trash.

 

[shrume]

Where people err is stating obeying Jesus is "works" where not of works is talking about works of the law like Paul always is. It was a big topic at the time (acts15:1).

Indeed it was. The Jews wanted to keep the law as a requirement for salvation.

Romans 10:9 does not refute matt 19:16-17.... No wonder you guys are in a mess if you cant even combine what verse A says to verse B. instead of making everything contradict itself.

Either we are saved by keeping the law, or we are saved by confessing Jesus Christ as Lord and believing God raised him from the dead.

As for your saying 1 corinthians 14:34-36 isnt authentic thats already enough to say your opinion is worth nothing. Its in every manuscript we have even the alexandrian ones. You can just pick and choose, maybe some of the other commandments aint authentic? Thats the devil that'll make you think that way. Confusion aint from God.

I am not confused.

And btw with the way you interpret galatians 3:28 you arent a male. Remember there is no jew nor gentile no male nor female in Christ, we're just one and stuff dude, Jesus ended that stuff? OH wait yeah its talking about how people are saved, all are saved and one in the Messiah.
But who cares, lets just make it contradict 1 corinthians 14:34-36, oh nvm, lets just say it isnt authentic, even tho its in all the manuscripts.

I shouldn't of even responded to you after that garbage that you spewed out about it "not being authentic" the bible correctors are in full swing. Trash trash trash.

Thanks for your opinion.

You can research 1 Cor 14:34-35 for yourself, if you like.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

You seem to have a level of hostility that is palpable. Mind easing up a bit? I don't even recall previous conversations with you, and seeing as you joined in basically the start of Sept, you speak as if you've been here longer. Were you under a different name and came back? Either way, I see that you often comment on what I say but I don't really respond cause usually you're just inferring what I am saying or being condescending reaching conclusions that weren't intended.

Are you here to fellowship or to just attack everything I say? If its the latter, I'd appreciate it if you'd just ignore my posts. Honestly, considering your strong stance (at least what you seem to be purporting here) of your absolute mutually exclusive belief system to mine, why ever bother chatting?

oh please

the personal attack now?

well, when all else fails, that is what some people do

whatever

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Im waiting for an answer on this too.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Why does it say have done good if deeds dont matter? Paul says the same thing in Romans 2:6-7.
Paul also preached the same thing as Jesus, but wait I thought Paul had a different gospel than Jesus? Oh wait. Whats going on here:

Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

I love it how it says "and then to the Gentiles" its almost as if its there just so that people cant come up with the excuse that "Oh, thats for the jews only". Lemme tell yall something: Go ask any rabbi if a convert to judaism is under the same Torah as a born jew. Guess what hes gonna tell ya? I know what, he would tell you its the same commandments. Always have, always will, do yall think when Ruth joined Israel that they had different rules for Ruth? Come on.

Well, looks like we need some bible pundits and scholars to splain these verses away! Or atleast clarify what they really mean. A lil help here?

again, seems something is wrong with the quoting..I'm the one that wrote that post Issachar..or maybe it's how the quote is being made? anyway

in response, no answer will be given

it never is

Why does it say have done good if deeds dont matter? Paul says the same thing in Romans 2:6-7.
Paul also preached the same thing as Jesus, but wait I thought Paul had a different gospel than Jesus? Oh wait

don't hold your breath here

but then you know the answer anyway

 

[MarcR]

Ok, Nehemiah6, but probably you agree that there are some differences between Jesus' teachings and those of Paul. In case of conflict, which prevails?

There is NO CONFLICT! If you think there is conflict, you are misunderstanding one or the other.

 

[Marcelo]

There is NO CONFLICT! If you think there is conflict, you are misunderstanding one or the other.

I agree with you MarcR -- there is no conflict since some of Jesus' teachings were just intended to show the Jews -- specially the farisees -- that no one can be saved by keeping the Law.

It is evident that Jesus taught the Jews to keep the law in order to be saved, while Paul teaches us that salvation is by grace and faith.

It is important to know that Jesus' ministry (before the cross) was a transitional period between the Old Testament and the New Testament, while Paul's ministry (Jesus speaking through Paul after the cross) was to bring the Good News of salvation to the Gentiles.

But if we believe that ALL of Jesus' teachings are applicable to Christians then there will be conflict.

 

[OneFaith]

God’s laws never change, the only thing that changed is obeying those laws spiritually instead of physically (Ephesians 6). David killed his tens of thousands, but our war is no longer against flesh and blood. Their physical rest on a physical day represented our peace that surpasses understanding. Their sacrifice of a physically perfect lamb represented the sacrifice of the spiritual Lamb of God.

So take any law, and imagine obeying it spiritually instead of physically, and there’s your answer- obey all of God’s law spiritually. Jesus said if you hate your brother you are already a murderer- whether you do so physically or not. If you look at someone to lust after them you are already an adulterer. However, we still remain in physical bodies, therefore obeying God spiritually may involve physical application. Like if you see your brother without basic food, clothes, and shelter, and you have means to help him, you can’t just use mental telepathy and wish him well, in order to obey spiritually, you would have to physically supply his physical needs.

So when Jesus says to not give your gift at the alter until you try to reconcile with your brother, there is no spiritual way to do that without physicality, because money is physical. So what’s the difference? In the Old Testament, under Moses, they had to take adulterers outside the city and physically stone them to death, so how do we do that spiritually today under Christ? “Do not be unequally yoked.” We are not to be best friends with the worldly. We act polite, but they are not allowed in our ‘city’ for what fellowship can light have with darkness?

 

[Hizikyah]

Mat 28:20, “Teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”

Galatians 3:27-29, “For as many of you as were immersed into Messiah have put on Messiah. There is not Yehuḏi nor Greek, there is not slave nor free, there is not male and female, for you are all one in Messiah יהושע. And if you are of Messiah, then you are seed of Aḇraham, and heirs according to promise.”

John/Yahanan 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me."

Mat 15:24, “And He answering, said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Yisra’yl.”

Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Yisra’yl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."

Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Yisra’yl who belongs to Yisra’yl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."

Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is YHWH our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."

I just don't understand how anyone can say some of His teachings arent for His followers, in Messiah there is no Jew and Gentiles and He said His words will never pass. I assume it is when people don't want to follow what He actually said they say, "for the Jews" just like people do with the Sabbath. Even though Scripture expressely states (Isaiah 56:1-7) that it is for Hebrew and Gentiles alike, all that follow Yah. If He is oue Shepherd how can we not seek to obey His words... are we to tell Him, nope your Instructions were not for me? Yet H says "My sheep hear my voice and follow"

2 John/Yahanan 1:9, "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of the Messiah, does not have Yah. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son."

John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 - poimén)."

John/Yahanan 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me."

John 12:26, “26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.”

Yahshua says HIs words are life and will last forever;

John/Yahanan 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting."

and He is very clear about what He requirees of us;

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

John/Yahanan 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

and finally with the verses in mind, how could anything He said be done away, cast aside, or made obselete post Sacrifice?

and even if one still has this view, we can look to the final Revelation given to mankind, and it's not "the Revelation of John" its:

Rev 1:1, "Revelation of יהושע Messiah, which YHWH gave Him to show His servants what has to take place with speed. And He signified it by sending His messenger to His servant Yoḥanan,"

1:1, "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,"

in this final message He says;

Revelation 3:15-16, “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I would that you were cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I am going to vomit you out of My mouth."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of יהושעMessiah."

Revelation 14:12, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Yah and the belief of יהושע.”

Revelation 22:7, “See, I am coming speedily! Blessed is he who obeys the words of the prophecy of this book.”

Revelation 3:5, "He who overcomes, the same will be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name from The Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His malakim."

So even if His words were made obselete at His Sacrifice (they were not) this is post Sacrifice and the FINAL message. Also I will be adding a second post to this reply, but I want it seperate because to me it's important.

John/Yahanan 10:27-30, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; neither will any man snatch them out of My hand. My Father, Who gave them to Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand: I and My Father are in accord."

 

[Marcelo]

What shall I do to be saved?

Jesus' answer before the cross: Keep the commandments (Mt 19:17).
Jesus' answer after the cross (through Paul): For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God (EPH 2:8).

You brothers and sisters see the difference? Can anyone tell me why?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

What shall I do to be saved?

Jesus' answer before the cross: Keep the commandments (Mt 19:17).
Jesus' answer after the cross (through Paul): For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God (EPH 2:8).

You brothers and sisters see the difference? Can anyone tell me why?

nope

rather I see what happens when people do not study the entire word and cherry pick verses

ask this question: was ANYONE...anyone at all EVER saved by keeping the commandments?

answer: NO

now why do you folk pay never you mind to the rest of the covenants?

it would behoove you to understand that salvation has ALWAYS been by faith...check out Abraham...in fact check out Noah and Moses too. why did God call these men saved with no sacrificial system in place? the sacrifices and law and ordinances came through Moses, but he was already OBEDIENT otherwise they might have all been still in Egypt

it would give a better understanding if the new covenant only people would study the entire thing and understand that if Jesus knew...well sure, let's assume He actually knew, that no one ever kept or can keep the law, then why would He make that statement in the first place?

you are appearing to make a distinction between the teaching of Jesus and Paul which illustrates an improper understanding of either one

Paul was called by Jesus. Jesus, is the One who appointed Paul. did Jesus do that so that Paul could introduce a different gospel? why would Jesus make that mistake? it would have had to have been a mistake if Paul was going to negate the gospel of Jesus.

Paul says there is no other foundation except the one already laid...and that foundation is Jesus

I posted those verses yesterday

they are overlooked by the Jesus vs Paul crowd.

salvation has ALWAYS BEEN BY THE GRACE OF GOD THROUGH FAITH

do you suppose Jesus had another way in mind?

make sense out of scripture by learning from all of it. leaving major parts out and saying they are no longer for us is not the gospel

Jesus never broke the law because He is the Son of God. Abraham's faith was accounted to him for righteousness LONG BEFORE JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN

why was Jesus sacrifice acceptable? because He was obedient unto death....that is in scripture also

some people do NOT understand the plan of God for salvation and they chop it up and lean on their own understanding while claiming those who take into consideration the FACT of salvation PRIOR TO THE NEW TESTAMENT, are doing works of law

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Some critics of Christianity try to set Paul against Jesus. They will often claim that what Paul taught is not what Jesus said and that present-day Christianity is derived not from Jesus, but from Paul's teaching.

This is an erroneous claim that does not fit the facts. It is easy to take various scriptures out of context and try and set one person against another -- as many critics of Christianity have done. Nevertheless, we can confidently expect that Jesus and Paul taught the same thing. Granted, Paul focused more on theological issues than Jesus did, but nothing Paul said is contrary to Christ.


Luke wrote both the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts. In Acts 9 Luke records the events surrounding Paul's conversion. We see that Jesus himself called Paul and sent him to be an apostle. If Paul and Jesus are not in agreement, then why would Jesus call Paul to be his apostle? Jesus is God in flesh and would, therefore, know all things. Jesus would certainly have known what Paul would teach which, it seems, is one of the reasons Jesus called him.


source

 

[Marcelo]

Ok, Seven Seas, thanks for your input. Now let me ask you another question: Have you already sold your possessions and given the money to the poor, as Jesus commanded?

 

[Hizikyah]

Ok, Seven Seas, thanks for your input. Now let me ask you another question: Have you already sold your possessions and given the money to the poor, as Jesus commanded?

Mr. Marcelo, with all respect I want to say, it has no bearing on the truth of Yahshua's/Jesus words if people obey them or not. His words remain true.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:26, "But the Comforter; the Holy Spirit which YHWH will send in My Name will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I (Yahshua/Jesus) have said to you."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting." [/FONT]