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The bible also records that we must study God's Word as with conviction in order to rightly divide the Word of Truth: in this the bible also tells us to avoid foolish and unlearned questions, knowing that they only bring about controversy. As for there being other people, it is evident in the text of scripture, we must only study earnestly.
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Well, realistically keeping a woman chase for a whole year doesn't really tell if she's disease loaded. (They did check out for virginity back then. Ew! Ew! Ew! Who gets that job?) And considering the idea is a year of virginity, wouldn't he rather NOT know if she were fertile by the time the year is up? No-sex isn't going to tell me the likelihood of fertility. Only the likelihood of dropping a baby. And if she drops the baby, poof! She gets out of 3-9 months of prettying up! (Likely killed too, but that's a different problem.)
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I see no harm in trying to figure out who Cain married. It doesn't say, so apparently not that important to the book about God. But we are curious creatures.
My curiosity in trying to figure out how it all worked out has landed me some interesting bits about God. Who did keep track of the genealogy in Genesis for instance? To my way of thinking the obvious choice is God.
However, Alex Haley once sat listening to the historian in an African tribe for six hours as she ran down the lists of forefathers. Then she said, "Kunta Kinke." Kunta Kinke! Alex Haley just heard the name of his great-great-great grandfather in two words of another language. It is possible for the family between Adam and Eve all the way to Moses really were capable of remembering that many forefathers from years of training. And it is possible Noah memorized the list before the Big Float. (He had 100 years of boat building to memorize the list in. It's doable! lol)
How does it hurt to think in these terms?
And, if you are so against arguing, then didn't you just start one by arguing against arguing? lol
My curiosity in trying to figure out how it all worked out has landed me some interesting bits about God. Who did keep track of the genealogy in Genesis for instance? To my way of thinking the obvious choice is God.
However, Alex Haley once sat listening to the historian in an African tribe for six hours as she ran down the lists of forefathers. Then she said, "Kunta Kinke." Kunta Kinke! Alex Haley just heard the name of his great-great-great grandfather in two words of another language. It is possible for the family between Adam and Eve all the way to Moses really were capable of remembering that many forefathers from years of training. And it is possible Noah memorized the list before the Big Float. (He had 100 years of boat building to memorize the list in. It's doable! lol)
How does it hurt to think in these terms?
And, if you are so against arguing, then didn't you just start one by arguing against arguing? lol
Adam and Eve were the first Human souls. They were designed to be redeemed by the blood of Jesus. They were in a covenant relationship with God.
There were other people, like other tribes, but they were not human souls. Evidence of their existence has been found.
Almost human souls, primitives, outside the covenant.
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There were other people, like other tribes, but they were not human souls. Evidence of their existence has been found.
Almost human souls, primitives, outside the covenant.
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How was the situation regarding procreation unforeseen? Please do explain 
For example:
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. Ps 119:89
For I am the LORD, I change not; Mal 3:6
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Hebrews 13:8
Therefore to say that Cain's wife was his sister implies, contrary to scripture, that the LORD's word is temporal since the LORD's word teaches those of faith against engaging in physical relations between biological members of their own family.
The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. Lev 18:9
Since the LORD gave his Word not to condemn man, but rather to instruct man, then the physiological and psychological effects of incestous relations a is somewhat subjective yet genetically the common traits from a single set of procreators having the same genes for hair color, eye color, skin color would have resulted in a successive genes being the same, as you see below.
Thus, the flaw with the Cain's wife being his biological sister, since we know that when men (males and females) began to multiply upon the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God (males)
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (Like Adam was)
saw the daughters of men (males and females) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose....
1Tim 1: 3As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, 4nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith. 5But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, 7wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.
Selah.
Selah.
Not to open a can of worms, but….this is a great example of why Genesis cannot be taken literally word for word – it is a collection of creation stories of a specific group of Semitic people. Some of the stories are very similar to other Semitic peoples (the flood for example).
Every culture has its creation stories. We typically regard the creation stories of other cultures as “creation myths” – really no different here; if we all practiced say Druidism or the religion of ancient Greece, we’d look at Genesis and classify it as “Hebrew mythology” the same way we do with Greek, Roman, or Norse mythology.
The stories of Genesis are all very metaphorical. Adam and Eve (and their children) are metaphors for mankind in general – plenty of other marriage prospects for Cain.
When looking at genealogical "lists" and such in the Bible, just as the term "father" can mean "ancestor" (not one's actual father), the term "son(s) (and daughters)" can also mean "descendants" in general, not one's direct offspring.
Every culture has its creation stories. We typically regard the creation stories of other cultures as “creation myths” – really no different here; if we all practiced say Druidism or the religion of ancient Greece, we’d look at Genesis and classify it as “Hebrew mythology” the same way we do with Greek, Roman, or Norse mythology.
The stories of Genesis are all very metaphorical. Adam and Eve (and their children) are metaphors for mankind in general – plenty of other marriage prospects for Cain.
When looking at genealogical "lists" and such in the Bible, just as the term "father" can mean "ancestor" (not one's actual father), the term "son(s) (and daughters)" can also mean "descendants" in general, not one's direct offspring.
rem one thing..... Before Chapter 6 of Genesis took place, the Blood line was PURE on all sides of the isle. This was the reason why inbreeding (harsh word) was allowed to take place and populate the earth.
As I stated before, Cain live a good long time..Long enough to find a woman to marry..... Notice I did not rule out relatives.
One other point..... All point,,,All of Cain's children's names had God (EL) in them... So i suspect that God told Cain how to remove Sin by animal sacrifice (long before Leviticus Laws). I also suspect that we will find him (Cain) there in Heaven when we get there.
It is apparent you have a beef with the way the earth was populated. The Bible does not tell how old Adam and Eve was when they had Cain or Abel. It does tell us that Seth was born to them (Adam and EVE) one Hundred and thirty Years of Age.
There probably was many children born to Adam and Eve before then. Abel and Cain was two of them.
As I stated earlier, the blood lines were PURE thus "inbreeding" permitted.
God sent Cain to NOD, east of Eden..... WHY because of the sin he committed.
There probably was many children born to Adam and Eve before then. Abel and Cain was two of them.
As I stated earlier, the blood lines were PURE thus "inbreeding" permitted.
God sent Cain to NOD, east of Eden..... WHY because of the sin he committed.
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Have we considered there are two creation accounts in Genesis. One in chapter 1 and another in Chapter 2. The account in Chapter 2 of Genesis being the account of Adam and Eve, where God creates a man to tend His garden. Thus leaving the account in Chapter 1 to account for male and female to be created and replenish the earth?
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