Why are the Gospels written in third person?

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Actually it was 70 Ad, Luke's gospel and Acts were written 75-90 AD, and Matthew from 80-90. 35-70 I believe is when oral tradition was being used before it was recorded.
It was 45 ad... this is what I study in school lol. Luke and Acts were later, but Paul died in 69 ad, and yet he referenced the Gospel of Luke and Matthew in his letters. Luke died in 74 ad. He did not write from the grave...
 
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Why would any guy/girl say 'at long last' after 2 min receiving a text from his/her crush. Lol. Hebrew word for day could also mean long periods time, but in this case in its interpretation it's literally 24 hours. So the it happened within 24 hours.
That's a lot of things to do in 24 hrs....naming all the animals, etc, etc.....not even enough time to sleep let alone get lonely.

Eve would not have had to be brought to Adam if she was made full grown by his side...where was she?
 
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It was 45 ad... this is what I study in school lol. Luke and Acts were later, but Paul died in 69 ad, and yet he referenced the Gospel of Luke and Matthew in his letters. Luke died in 74 ad. He did not write from the grave...
Was it about communion? Well one of the first missionary trips of Paul was like in the late 40's. Maybe 47 AD. So some of Paul's letters were around 50-60 AD. We are not sure exactly, that's why we estimate around periods.
 
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That's a lot of things to do in 24 hrs....naming all the animals, etc, etc.....not even enough time to sleep let alone get lonely.

Eve would not have had to be brought to Adam if she was made full grown by his side...where was she?
I don't know if naming all the animals would take up most of my day. I do believe animals were very simple in his time. I believe after Noah, animals adapted to many environmental habitats by creating new species. So I think it wouldn't be that hard. It says he created man, not a boy and raised it till a certain age. I believe everything was created first mature or called into maturity once created.
 
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I don't know if naming all the animals would take up most of my day. I do believe animals were very simple in his time. I believe after Noah, animals adapted to many environmental habitats by creating new species. So I think it wouldn't be that hard. It says he created man, not a boy and raised it till a certain age. I believe everything was created first mature or called into maturity once created.
The term 'adam' is used interchangeably between Adam & Eve...the term represents mankind.

The text states that Adam, the male, named all the animals everywhere.....do you think that he named the elephants, giraffes, penguins, etc, etc..in 24 hrs from the garden? Seems too far fetched for the thinking person.

No...it would have taken him months, or years to do that.....long enough to know that he never came across anyone like himself...
 
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The term 'adam' is used interchangeably between Adam & Eve...the term represents mankind.

The text states that Adam, the male, named all the animals everywhere.....do you think that he named the elephants, giraffes, penguins, etc, etc..in 24 hrs from the garden? Seems too far fetched for the thinking person.

No...it would have taken him months, or years to do that.....long enough to know that he never came across anyone like himself...
Of course, Adam named Eve....

If Noah can gather all the animals in pairs, which would take a long time, in sure naming animals would be a lot quicker. I can name every simple-well known animal such as a elephant in less than a day. It might take me an hour or two depending on if I can memorize every animal. At least he saw them! I can't! lol. How do you know he wasn't naming them while pretty young Eve over there is talking to some serpent lol.

Adam: Hey honey I'm back from naming (or memorizing) the rest of the animals, what's this???

Eve: it's a special fruit eat it.

Lol!!
 
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Of course, Adam named Eve....

If Noah can gather all the animals in pairs, which would take a long time, in sure naming animals would be a lot quicker. I can name every simple-well known animal such as a elephant in less than a day. It might take me an hour or two depending on if I can memorize every animal. At least he saw them! I can't! lol. How do you know he wasn't naming them while pretty young Eve over there is talking to some serpent lol.

Adam: Hey honey I'm back from naming (or memorizing) the rest of the animals, what's this???

Eve: it's a special fruit eat it.

Lol!!

Even before Adam was tasked with naming the animals God instructed him to cultivate and maintain the Garden....ever do any gardening...?

Big job....stack this atop naming all the animals on the planet....you can see the dilemma of attempting to stuff it all into one 24 hr day...
 
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Even before Adam was tasked with naming the animals God instructed him to cultivate and maintain the Garden....ever do any gardening...?

Big job....stack this atop naming all the animals on the planet....you can see the dilemma of attempting to stuff it all into one 24 hr day...
But there is no time frame as to how long he cultivated the garden. And as he was doing it, God saw his loneliness.

The bible says God was forming animals out of the ground and brought them before Adam to name. So that's even quicker than going around looking for animal to name.
 
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Even before Adam was tasked with naming the animals God instructed him to cultivate and maintain the Garden....ever do any gardening...?

Big job....stack this atop naming all the animals on the planet....you can see the dilemma of attempting to stuff it all into one 24 hr day...
There were nowhere near as many species back then as there are nowadays. This is also why Noah could fit two of every animal aboard the Ark.
 
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Even before Adam was tasked with naming the animals God instructed him to cultivate and maintain the Garden....ever do any gardening...?

Big job....stack this atop naming all the animals on the planet....you can see the dilemma of attempting to stuff it all into one 24 hr day...
Start a new thread.
Super de-rail!
 
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But there is no time frame as to how long he cultivated the garden. And as he was doing it, God saw his loneliness.

The bible says God was forming animals out of the ground and brought them before Adam to name. So that's even quicker than going around looking for animal to name.
So...what you are saying is that Adam was born with the ability to cultivate a garden without having been taught...that Adam already knew speech and the ability to form sentences and create new words....and find out which tree was for food and which tree was forbidden...and discover that he was lonely...all in a 24hr day...?

Little wonder people from outside the faith think this is crazy....
 
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There were nowhere near as many species back then as there are nowadays. This is also why Noah could fit two of every animal aboard the Ark.
Genesis states that mankind was his last creation...so, how did the other species get created?

You are treading the fine line of evolution...
 
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So...what you are saying is that Adam was born with the ability to cultivate a garden without having been taught...that Adam already knew speech and the ability to form sentences and create new words....and find out which tree was for food and which tree was forbidden...and discover that he was lonely...all in a 24hr day...?

Little wonder people from outside the faith think this is crazy....
So you believe that God created the world, with intricate subatomic laws that define all physics and matter, and delicate systems and dependent subsystems of principles that are necessary for there to be any logic or predictability in the universe, ...but can't create a full grown man? Sounds like you don't have a very smart god. (Little "g", because that one ain't mine.)

Do you realize how intensely complicated creation is? God did that. And He says that He alone keeps it all together. Why do you feel like you have to apologize for how He said He did it. He's God! He can do it however He pleases.
 
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So...what you are saying is that Adam was born with the ability to cultivate a garden without having been taught...that Adam already knew speech and the ability to form sentences and create new words....and find out which tree was for food and which tree was forbidden...and discover that he was lonely...all in a 24hr day...?

Little wonder people from outside the faith think this is crazy....
Can a bush be miraculously in flames without consuming it?

If you read genesis 2:15-17, it answers most of your questions. Why can't the Lord give man common knowledge? Does the Lord have boundaries in what He makes or performs?

If they think we are crazy, it's because they are seeing it with secular perception.
 
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Perception*
 
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So you believe that God created the world, with intricate subatomic laws that define all physics and matter, and delicate systems and dependent subsystems of laws that are necessary for there to be any logic or predictability in the universe, ...but can't create a full grown man? Sounds like you don't have a very smart god. (Little "g", because that one ain't mine.)
The text is clear from the assigned tasks, alone, that Adam could not have performed everything in one 24hr day.

He was only human...give him a break!

God was the parent to Adam and Eve, and they were raised from birth....this takes time...not stuffed into 24hrs...come on...
 
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Can a bush be miraculously in flames without consuming it?

If you read genesis 2:15-17, it answers most of your questions. Why can't the Lord give man common knowledge? Does the Lord have boundaries in what He makes or performs?

If they think we are crazy, it's because they are seeing it with secular perception.

A simple reading of the text shows that Adam was formed outside the Garden, and then after this God planted the Garden...why would God form Adam as an adult, but then have to 'plant' His garden?

Simply inconsistence with your position...
 
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The text is clear from the assigned tasks, alone, that Adam could not have performed everything in one 24hr day.
Gen 2:15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.

This verse does not say that Adam learned how to do it on the day He was created. It states intent of why Adam was placed in the Garden.

He was only human...give him a break!

God was the parent to Adam and Eve, and they were raised from birth....this takes time...not stuffed into 24hrs...come on...

Gen 2:22
Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

Where are you fitting time into this?
Genesis 2:22 Lexicon: The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.

there is no hebrew word in this passage denoting any span of time.
actually, 935 (and brought) denotes "urgency in coming, as if to aid the wounded" "violently charging, as to invade or overtake". That is the opposite of what you were saying!
 
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The text is clear from the assigned tasks, alone, that Adam could not have performed everything in one 24hr day.

He was only human...give him a break!

God was the parent to Adam and Eve, and they were raised from birth....this takes time...not stuffed into 24hrs...come on...

A simple reading of the text shows that Adam was formed outside the Garden, and then after this God planted the Garden...why would God form Adam as an adult, but then have to 'plant' His garden?

Simply inconsistence with your position...
Who said he finished it? The bible doesn't say he completed everything. Give him a break, while he was alone God saw he needed a helper, He made him go into a deep sleep while creating a helper using his own flesh, his own rib.

Look you stress over this, why is it so big for the Lord to create man with the capacities of understanding common sense? Plus His garden already had plants to support him for food. He had to take care of the garden.
 
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Who said he finished it? The bible doesn't say he completed everything. Give him a break, while he was alone God saw he needed a helper, He made him go into a deep sleep while creating a helper using his own flesh, his own rib.

Look you stress over this, why is it so big for the Lord to create man with the capacities of understanding common sense? Plus His garden already had plants to support him for food. He had to take care of the garden.
Also, how hard is it for Adam to look at a line of animals and see, "hmmm, none of these are floating my boat."
I'm pretty sure this whole thing wasn't an all day affair. As Bryan said, the Bible doesn't say Adam finished the naming on day 6.